Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Umigami]

If SoKor win again, I hope with that much money we could buy more proven bigger SK sub.

 

[Lordimperator]

If SoKor win again, I hope with that much money we could buy more proven bigger SK sub.

DSME 3000? with vls oh boii

 

[Parry Brima]

I think it is a fair debate, Japan already has 3-4 Li-Ion submarines in operational and no longer equipped AIP on its brand new SSK

South Korea and Italy are also planning to do so (CMIIW)

It shouldn't be a debate. If we're really serious about becoming the biggest player in SE Asia we should aim for the future technology (5th gen, loyal wingman, Li-on, etc).

I have no doubt PS himself wants Li-on subs (he said he wants Li-on Scorpene during Rapim, no?). So if there's any country offering this tech we should seriously considering it.

note : where the heck is Suryo.

 

[Lordimperator]

where the heck is Suryo

(2).

Maybe she will come after Mogami

 

[JATOSINT]

at this ppint im not disapointed whatever they get (sokor/france) as long we could add new fleet to our navy.

Wouldnt it be a waste of money, time, and opportunity if we stayed in the 209-class?

 

[Lordimperator]

Wouldnt it be a waste of money, time, and opportunity if we stayed in the 209-class?

Hmm, i haven't considered about that. Yep, it would cost us more if we plan to step up the SSK but we kept order the u209.
Better those Scorpene come in faster and hopefully more than 2 if we want to get the ToT.

 

[NEKO]

Or SK is pushing for other naval products, and not a submarine.

 

[Lordimperator]

Or SK is pushing for other naval products, and not a submarine.

Sejong the Great DDG?

 

[NEKO]

Sejong the Great DDG?

Idk.

Indonesia establishes consortium to reverse engineer anti-ship missile​

An Indonesian consortium mainly comprising state-owned enterprises has been established to reverse engineer an anti-ship missile type with a view of establishing the capability in-country.

The consortium is led by the Indonesian Ministry of Defense's (MoD's) Directorate for Technology and Defense Industry and includes state-owned enterprises namely aerospace company PT Dirgantara Indonesia, defence electronics enterprise PT Len, explosives manufacturer PT Dahana, and heavy vehicles and ammunition producer PT Pindad.

Meanwhile, the two private enterprises that have been named as part of the consortium are defence software company PT Mulia Laksana Utama and unmanned aerial vehicles manufacturer PT Aero Terra Indonesia. An agreement to formalise the consortium was signed on 1 April, the Indonesian MoD said in a statement on 2 April.

Among matters that were formalised include the scope of work that each company will be involved in and the tests and certification processes that will be carried out at various stages of the weapon's dismantling.

“We hope that the mastering of this technology will eventually lead to the existence of an indigenous anti-ship missile industry and the ability to produce the weapon in-country to support the armed forces' objectives of preserving the country's sovereignty,” the MoD said in the statement.

The MoD statement stopped short of disclosing the type of missiles that will be involved in the reverse engineering process. However, an image accompanying its statement closely resembled the C-705 medium-range anti-ship missile manufactured by China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC).

Indonesia establishes consortium to reverse engineer anti-ship missile

An Indonesian consortium mainly comprising state-owned enterprises has been established to reverse engineer an anti-ship missile type with a view of establishing the...

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Can I still hope for NSM ToT?

 

[Madokafc]

Talking about Antiship Missiles, we should also pursue the sea Denial capability while utilized UCAV capability. To have large maritime patrol UAV in which able to work with AShM, sonobuoy, and torp is a boon for our Forces. This also need comprehensive secure comm devices and support to enable BLOS capability of our future UAV fleets.

 

[NEKO]

Talking about Antiship Missiles, we should also pursue the sea Denial capability while utilized UCAV capability. To have large maritime patrol UAV in which able to work with AShM, sonobuoy, and torp is a boon for our Forces. This also need comprehensive secure comm devices and support to enable BLOS capability of our future UAV fleets.

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We can aim for something simpler first for patrol, something like heavily downgraded MQ-4c Triton.
Pake kitiran juga gapapa yang penting endurance lama.

 

[Madokafc]

We can aim for something simpler first for patrol, something like heavily downgraded MQ-4c Triton.
Pake kitiran juga gapapa yang penting endurance lama.

I got Akinci in my mind ....

 

[this is crunch]

I got Akinci in my mind ....

Wasn't a couple month ago they wanted the Grey Eagle?

 

[this is crunch]

The MoD statement stopped short of disclosing the type of missiles that will be involved in the reverse engineering process. However, an image accompanying its statement closely resembled the C-705 medium-range anti-ship missile manufactured by China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC).

Can I still hope for NSM ToT?

Having this reverse engineering program to be success and fully become operational is a great start before having any other missile ToT.

 

[Lordimperator]

I got Akinci in my mind ....

Why not Aksungur for Maritime

 

[this is crunch]

Why not Aksungur for Maritime

wait, akinci and aksungur are two different type?

 

[Lordimperator]

wait, akinci and aksungur are two different type?

Akinci by Bayraktar, Aksungur TAI, the latter already served Turkey armed forces

 

[HellFireIndo]

Indonesia to Reverse Engineer the Land-Based C-705 Anti-Ship Missile

08 April 2022 C-705 missile of the Indonesian Navy at Batuporon naval base (photo : Wiki) The Indonesian Ministry of Defense organized a res...

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If we can mass produce this stuff, the A2/AD strat might work wonders

 

[Anmdt]

Wouldnt it be a waste of money, time, and opportunity if we stayed in the 209-class?

Would be right if there were at least 6 - 8 Type 209 in the inventory.

I got Akinci in my mind ....

Aksungur - Akinci
Hunter - Killer duo of the Turkish Navy (the latter is to be)
If someone in higher position had these in mind too.

 

[Madokafc]

wait, akinci and aksungur are two different type?

Would be right if there were at least 6 - 8 Type 209 in the inventory.

Aksungur - Akinci
Hunter - Killer duo of the Turkish Navy (the latter is to be)
If someone in higher position had these in mind too.

Some people in the MoD prefer Akinci for future HALE UAV after some brief description during previous Prabowo visit to Turkey. Currently, They are still tangled by BLOS problem here to utilized such long range patrol capability into real action especially their intended work place is over the ocean