Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[joedhie2k]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518729343455100928

30% of contract value will be for local partner he said. What local company other than PT PAL that can contribute to this submarine project? We still can't produce the steel material for submarine, much less the devices/hardwares inside submarine.

cilacap welder.. as usual TKDN portion will just be filled with local manpower and local project management team

 

[R4duga]

Interesting. Hanwha claimed Indonesian submarine used their CMS. Was it used in the refitted Cakra & Nanggala at South Korea in 2004? When Nanggala parts were found, there're lots of her hardwares in Korean writing, so most likely it's.

Now this's what I mean as ToT for TKDN. Korea successfully developed and produced their own submarine hardwares locally.

aren't during jokowi and prabowo visit to Alugoro show that, it used Kongsberg MSI-90U mk2 CMS instead ?

 

[NEKO]

aren't during jokowi and prabowo visit to Alugoro show that, it used Kongsberg MSI-90U mk2 CMS instead ?

View attachment 43138

He said cakra and nanggala.

 

[R4duga]

this is what their locally made CMS inside their submarine looks like (don't know which baseline version though).

 

[R4duga]

He said cakra and nanggala.

cakra and nanggala was known to use MSI-90u mk2 too, it would be weird if they refitted/upgrade it with unproven system yet...., the picture also show it happened on 2015 timeline onwards.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518729343455100928

30% of contract value will be for local partner he said. What local company other than PT PAL that can contribute to this submarine project? We still can't produce the steel material for submarine, much less the devices/hardwares inside submarine.

MRO, training, facilities, battery, etc~~

 

[NEKO]

cakra and nanggala was known to use MSI-90u mk2 too, it would be weird if they refitted/upgrade it with unproven system yet...., the picture also show it happened on 2015 timeline onwards.

Seperti dikutip dari Janes.com (11/7/2017), penunjukkan ini telah dikonfirmasi kepada pihak terkait. Dalam proyek MRO, DSME bersama PT PAL akan melaksanakan overhul pada komponen mesin kapal selam buatan Jerman Barat tersebut. Selain itu akan dilakukan pemasangan (instalasi) komponen elektro optik jenis baru dan pemasangan modul GPS pada menara persikop. Kontrak disebutkan juga mencakup perbaikan komponen lambung, serta penggantian combat management system.

DSME Menangkan Proyek Overhaul Kapal Selam KRI Cakra 401

Flash back ke November 2015, dua galangan kapal kampiun, Daewoo Shipbuilding dan Marine Engineering (DSME), Korea Selatan dan DCNS, galangan kapal asal Perancis, menawarkan proposal paket overhaul untuk kapal selam KRI Cakra 401. Untuk merebut kontrak MRO (Maintenance, Repair dan Overhaul)...

www.indomiliter.com

The original CMS is replaced, very likely using korean CMS.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518884914959351808

 

[Lordimperator]

Anyway, still no news regarding submarine rescue ship, we will need it for the 1+3+upcoming 2 sub fleet

 

[JATOSINT]

H

Hm... Sadly no link for the original article. Was that just for Indonesian Navy or for Indonesian armed forces in general? I want to know whether the current Navy still have that mindset. Well, tbf, that ceremony mindset is in Indonesian government in general as a whole.

Here you go: https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_...tn97R6mx42GJxv_MAHP1JQg8EqN-THi3aTOFZCq3yADwc

I am not sure some of the data/opinions are accurate tho

 

[Synders]

I kinda curious...
Does Navy/MoD have any plan or thought about implementing some kind of module(like stanflex/LCS's mission module) to our OPV???
I think it'll be great if they have the capability to quick and easily convert to a fully combat ready vessel when the situation escalate into dangerous level rather than keeping them as oversized patrol vessel...
Or maybe the usual FFBNW methods is fast enough???

 

[Gary]

Hm... Sadly no link for the original article. Was that just for Indonesian Navy or for Indonesian armed forces in general?

Indonesians in general

 

[Stuka Dive]

Anyway, still no news regarding submarine rescue ship, we will need it for the 1+3+upcoming 2 sub fleet

TNI AL Kini Punya Satuan Komando Operasional Kapal Selam, Ini Tugas dan Fungsinya

“Koopkasel ini berfungsi sebagai submarine operating authority dan mengendalikan operasi kapal selam,” kata Ali.

nasional.kompas.com

The news link does mentioned about the procurement plan for the subs support ship and subs rescue ship. It also mentioned that safety system in our existing subs fleet has been upgraded. safety system and technologies has apparently become high priority ever since the 402 on the eternal patrol.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1519225064474177536

 

[NEKO]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1519225064474177536

Extra 35 personnel aboard this light frigate.

Hm...

 

[Gary]

WILL they fire live missile this time in RIMPAC ?

 

[R4duga]

intermezzo from our neighbour, looks like they offered the philippines and improved Nagapasa/Alugoro, look at that Towed Array Sonar in the rudder.

 

[JATOSINT]

WILL they fire live missile this time in RIMPAC ?

Doubt

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1519677374312620033

 

[Umigami]

Why bother choosing one between AIP & Li-ion of German or France submarine when you can get both AIP & Li-ion at the same time by choosing Korean DSME2000 submarine? Not to mention the AIP & Li-ion technology has been applied to Korean navy's submarines, so there's lower risk of being a lab rat like the previous project

DSME2000
AIP & Li-ion in one submarine
Applied & proven

Did AH changed agency to be a Korean salesman now?

MADEX 2019: New 2,000 tons attack submarine joins DSME portfolio - Naval News

At MADEX 2019 naval exhibition in Busan (South Korea), local shipyard DSME launched a new attack submarine design dedicated to the export market based on technologies developed for the ROK Navy KSS III submarine.

www.navalnews.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1520131052819394560

I don't remember RoKN operating that model