Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[this is crunch]

Looks like vrygate Merah Putih still gone mutant, but with better design rendering i thing i could accept it now

and looks like PT. Pal trying to converge both Sigma 10514 with Iver Huitfeldt design.
(*edit : this was the first attempt, look at the mockup, but then maybe they realize that it was ugly and unnecessary, so they only modified to add couple meter long to fit the vls, but still retain the second deck gun from original design, not from 10514))

My Commentary
The VLS number is way much more than the spec already shared, from the mockup itself (and the later rendering ((although it looks vague)) the forward vls is 8x6 (48 cells ((not counting the very behind naval gun)). But then the spec itself said
12 LR SAM
12 SR SAM
16 LR SSM

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* i don't trust the spec shared tho,
because
1. The spec said doesn't match with the mockup made,
2. The spec for missile, it just doesn't make sense, for the SR SAM that kinda acceptable because Sigma 10514 did the same, 12vls VL MICA,

BUT, IF, if we go LR SAM, what missile canister could hold 12 launcher, if not 8+4 canister,

 

[R4duga]

Looks like vrygate Merah Putih still gone mutant, but with better design rendering i thing i could accept it now

and looks like PT. Pal trying to converge both Sigma 10514 with Iver Huitfeldt design. View attachment 59042
View attachment 59043

My Commentary
The VLS number is way much more than the spec already shared, from the mockup itself (and the later rendering ((although it looks vague)) the forward vls is 8x6 (48 cells ((not counting the very behind naval gun)). But then the spec itself said
12 LR SAM
12 SR SAM
16 LR SSM

Havelsan Turki Akan Lengkapi Fregat "Merah Putih" Arrowhead dengan Advent CMS - Indonesiadefense.com | Informasi Berita Terkini dan Terbaru Hari Ini Hankam Dan TNI %

Havelsan bakal melengkapi kapal perang fregat "Merah Putih" Arrowhead 140 dengan sistem manajemen pertempuran atau combat management system (Advent CMS).

indonesiadefense.com

* i don't trust the spec shared tho,
because
1. The spec said doesn't match with the mockup made,
2. The spec for missile, it just doesn't make sense, for the SR SAM that kinda acceptable because Sigma 10514 did the same, 12vls VL MICA,

BUT, IF, if we go LR SAM, what missile canister could hold 12 launcher, if not 8+4 canister,

is that a freakin RBU-6000 just behind the second 76mm .

 

[chiphocks]

Looks like vrygate Merah Putih still gone mutant, but with better design rendering i thing i could accept it now

and looks like PT. Pal trying to converge both Sigma 10514 with Iver Huitfeldt design.
(*edit : this was the first attempt, look at the mockup, but then maybe they realize that it was ugly and unnecessary, so they only modified to add couple meter long to fit the vls, but still retain the second deck gun from original design, not from 10514))

View attachment 59042
View attachment 59043

My Commentary
The VLS number is way much more than the spec already shared, from the mockup itself (and the later rendering ((although it looks vague)) the forward vls is 8x6 (48 cells ((not counting the very behind naval gun)). But then the spec itself said
12 LR SAM
12 SR SAM
16 LR SSM

Havelsan Turki Akan Lengkapi Fregat "Merah Putih" Arrowhead dengan Advent CMS - Indonesiadefense.com | Informasi Berita Terkini dan Terbaru Hari Ini Hankam Dan TNI %

Havelsan bakal melengkapi kapal perang fregat "Merah Putih" Arrowhead 140 dengan sistem manajemen pertempuran atau combat management system (Advent CMS).

indonesiadefense.com

* i don't trust the spec shared tho,
because
1. The spec said doesn't match with the mockup made,
2. The spec for missile, it just doesn't make sense, for the SR SAM that kinda acceptable because Sigma 10514 did the same, 12vls VL MICA,

BUT, IF, if we go LR SAM, what missile canister could hold 12 launcher, if not 8+4 canister,

they took a different angle to avoid the rudder jokes huh?

 

[this is crunch]

they took a different angle to avoid the rudder jokes huh?

this one huh

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677268522316238848

 

[NEKO]

Looks like vrygate Merah Putih still gone mutant, but with better design rendering i thing i could accept it now

and looks like PT. Pal trying to converge both Sigma 10514 with Iver Huitfeldt design.
(*edit : this was the first attempt, look at the mockup, but then maybe they realize that it was ugly and unnecessary, so they only modified to add couple meter long to fit the vls, but still retain the second deck gun from original design, not from 10514))

View attachment 59042
View attachment 59043

My Commentary
The VLS number is way much more than the spec already shared, from the mockup itself (and the later rendering ((although it looks vague)) the forward vls is 8x6 (48 cells ((not counting the very behind naval gun)). But then the spec itself said
12 LR SAM
12 SR SAM
16 LR SSM

Havelsan Turki Akan Lengkapi Fregat "Merah Putih" Arrowhead dengan Advent CMS - Indonesiadefense.com | Informasi Berita Terkini dan Terbaru Hari Ini Hankam Dan TNI %

Havelsan bakal melengkapi kapal perang fregat "Merah Putih" Arrowhead 140 dengan sistem manajemen pertempuran atau combat management system (Advent CMS).

indonesiadefense.com

* i don't trust the spec shared tho,
because
1. The spec said doesn't match with the mockup made,
2. The spec for missile, it just doesn't make sense, for the SR SAM that kinda acceptable because Sigma 10514 did the same, 12vls VL MICA,

BUT, IF, if we go LR SAM, what missile canister could hold 12 launcher, if not 8+4 canister,

If they chose bhamos, well the missile is big and heavy and it will be placed behind the bridge and its quite high from the waterline and even though the missile is vertical but it still significantly change the CoG(closer to the water line), hopefully they already consider this and adjust the design so in the future when the ship is doing hard-turn it won't ngglimpang.
The Indian navy put their brahmos in the bow thus it is not located that high from the waterline.

they took a different angle to avoid the rudder jokes huh?

this one huh View attachment 59046

Because she doesn't turn, she drift.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677877538771828740

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677891166812127233

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1678225125978808320

 

[this is crunch]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677877538771828740

That photos is really amazing, rarely seen, i must say that's legendary, nowaday not much large tall ship out there.

But still, seeing thoose ship brings back memories

 

[this is crunch]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677877538771828740

oh wait, That Norway Stastraad Lehmkuhl was built in 1914, more that 100 years old ago, whoa.., trully grandpa and grandson with Indonesian Navy Bima Suci, Bima Suci is only 6y.o now, built in 2017

Bonus

It's Our Turn Hehehe

 

[JATOSINT]

oh wait, That Norway Stastraad Lehmkuhl was built in 1914, more that 100 years old ago, whoa.., trully grandpa and grandson with Indonesian Navy Bima Suci, Bima Suci is only 6y.o now, built in 2017

Bonus View attachment 59111 View attachment 59109 View attachment 59110
It's Our Turn Hehehe

Koninklijk Indonesisch Europa Indo-leger

 

[Madokafc]

Koninklijk Indonesisch Europa Indo-leger

PT SERIKAT DAGANG INDONESIA UNTUK EROPA

 

[Madokafc]

KRI TUNA

 

[Madokafc]

Btw Navy HQ need to add more Arsenal center for Ammunition storage, Batuporon Arsenal in Madura currently is not adequate enough as Indonesian Navy already expanded their forward operation. In my opinion there is several places quite suitable for new Arsenal location

1, Morotai, they are strategically located in eastern region, safe from earthquake zones, the Allies and IJN in the past too realized the important of this place has offer.
2, Batam or Bintan area region, this place also strategically located near the hotspot of Natuna Sea and also located near the umbrella of Singapore Air Defense system, with cooperation deal Indonesia can benefitted to place Arsenal here safely.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1678555566250295297

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1678603513398710272

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1678944008910032897

 

[Umigami]

LIMA 2023 - Following the agreement in Indonesia, Kongsberg promotes its Vanguard system in Malaysia - EDR Magazine

LIMA 2023 allowed Kongsberg of Norway to promote its Vanguard system, based on a mothership/fast attack boats concept, to Malaysia.

www.edrmagazine.eu

Mothership for KCR

 

[Lordimperator]

LIMA 2023 - Following the agreement in Indonesia, Kongsberg promotes its Vanguard system in Malaysia - EDR Magazine

LIMA 2023 allowed Kongsberg of Norway to promote its Vanguard system, based on a mothership/fast attack boats concept, to Malaysia.

www.edrmagazine.eu

Mothership for KCR

So thats where 900 mil goes

 

[Gary]

So thats where 900 mil goes

I hope the mothership has at least 12x VL MICA for point defense + 1 or 2 CIWS will be good.

 

[Umigami]

I think Lundin got KCRs
PAL got the mothership