Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[wekiweko]

I suppose that spec is for Iver?

 

[Madokafc]

 

[trishna_amrta]

I suppose that spec is for Iver?

Iver spec

 

[trishna_amrta]

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This whole Industry 4.0 will ruin our small-medium local industry

 

[Lordimperator]

That sub pic, the fin on the conning tower. Hmm looks like soryu

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[FPXAllen]

That sub pic, the fin on the conning tower. Hmm looks like soryu

Take your pick:

Spoiler

But if we really take the front "window" on the conning tower as a hint, then there's atleas one other suitable 'candidate':

Hayoloh. It won't be wet dreams anymore. Mencret, mencret sana deh...

 

[NEKO]

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Maritime industry 4.0? What will make it different from the current PAL?

I think they have some job opening last month.

That sub pic, the fin on the conning tower. Hmm looks like soryu

Shh...

 

[NEKO]

Soryu get? Or oyashio(seken) get?
Are they intentionally throwing breadcrumbs to the public, "100 days to maritime industry 4.0" + submarine production technology + japanese submarine (looks like soryu or oyashio conning tower, but if its not then they be trolling us good.

 

[Anmdt]

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How about a well matured 3.0 and 3.1 first?

Maritime Industry 4.0

marine-offshore.bureauveritas.com

PS: The shipyard i work with has 6x to 10x work load of PT. PAL, and there aren't many people with C- title as much as this. and they can start by reducing their number to first adapt into 4.0

 

[NEKO]

Take your pick:

Spoiler

But if we really take the front "window" on the conning tower as a hint, then there's atleas one other suitable 'candidate':

Hayoloh. It won't be wet dreams anymore. Mencret, mencret sana deh...

I think its Japanese sub, the conning tower its a bit large near the base and getting smaller to the top. Based on the pics then its Germany and Japanese sub, but the Japanese one looks similar.

 

[NEKO]

Spanduknya ga keliatan gimana bagian depan conning towernya sih.

 

[Lordimperator]

How about a well matured 3.0 and 3.1 first?

Nah, our gov only cares about 4.0 industrial "hype".

 

[Lordimperator]

oyashio(seken)

Is this equipped with aip?

 

[Anmdt]

I think its Japanese sub, the conning tower its a bit large near the base and getting smaller to the top. Based on the pics then its Germany and Japanese sub, but the Japanese one looks similar.

I am hopeful this time Japanese will cut the influence of westerners in the submarines.
Soryu or Soryu v2 both are good. A few of them (3) could provide the deterrence navy needs.
1x Iver + 2x FREMM + 1x SoryuV2 + 1x Type-209/214 is a decent flotilla.

 

[NEKO]

I am hopeful this time Japanese will cut the influence of westerners in the submarines.

Yeah me too, I think the Japanese still have a chance competing against Euro sub, as Indonesia is a first export customer of SK submarine and LPD, as long as its budget friendly. I think its not easy for a country to export their submarine for the first time, and I think Indonesia don't mind about becoming first export customer.

 

[Ravager]

Too many efforts & expenses for negligible gain, it's not worth it.


Jarhead clan is only allowed to operate 8Km of the coastal baseline. Further inland is the Army domain. Which is why BMP-3F is the most suitable option.

Yup ... Too much hassle . But , man still can dream no ...

China would only grow larger . Sooner or later those ridiculous norms are going to be broken and twisted when shits are starting to get real ...

How about a well matured 3.0 and 3.1 first?

Maritime Industry 4.0

marine-offshore.bureauveritas.com

PS: The shipyard i work with has 6x to 10x work load of PT. PAL, and there aren't many people with C- title as much as this. and they can start by reducing their number to first adapt into 4.0

Don't buy that bullshit and hypes . Action speak louder than words . Unless they totally overhauled their old top management i don't put much of my stocks on them ...
The planning and dreams were always good it was the implementation process that always come into the question ..


Sigh ...

 

[Lordimperator]

competing against Euro sub,

In li-on tech they already had taigei class compared to the not yet exist Li-on scorpene

 

[Anmdt]

Yeah me too, I think the Japanese still have a chance competing against Euro sub, as Indonesia is a first export customer of SK submarine and LPD, as long as its budget friendly. I think its not easy for a country to export their submarine for the first time, and I think Indonesia don't mind about becoming first export customer.

Let's say in other words, if Indonesia wants certain techs and capabilities there is nobody out there providing it as much as Japanese do.

 

[Madokafc]

I am hopeful this time Japanese will cut the influence of westerners in the submarines.
Soryu or Soryu v2 both are good. A few of them (3) could provide the deterrence navy needs.
1x Iver + 2x FREMM + 1x SoryuV2 + 1x Type-209/214 is a decent flotilla.

1 Iver + 2 ASW FREMM + 2 FFM 30 + Soryu + u 209/214 per fleet would be more than enough to provide all around encompassing deterrence

And that's would be supplanted by Navy OPV/Corvettes/light Frigate

 

[RajaSultanKing]

1 Iver + 2 ASW FREMM + 2 FFM 30 + Soryu + u 209/214 per fleet would be more than enough to provide all around encompassing deterrence

And that's would be supplanted by Navy OPV/Corvettes/light Frigate

PAL LHD when?