Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[this is crunch]

Bima Sakti and REM

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KRI R.E.M looks ngebut, cool

 

[satria]

 

[RajaSultanKing]

For Indonesia case they need a lot of confidence to beat FFM 30 on the next tender programme

so if counting on the procurement phase:

Phase 1 is Iver Huitfeldt
Phase 2 is FREMM
Phase 3 is 30FFM

Phase 1 and 2 is already final in terms of the ship design type while for Phase 3 it can be countered by other shipyards with their own design, is that right?

I can imagine OMT and Fincantieri trying to push their design so that there can be a repeat order for the Phase 3

 

[satria]

Yontaifib going exercise with USMC next month
Reconex 21-I

https://nasional.sindonews.com/read...b-korps-marinir-ke-amerika-serikat-1628766497

 

[Parry Brima]

Honestly Am trully shocking to hear every inch about Indonesia getting Tier One weaponery.

Nah, this will be our Tier One weaponry

 

[FPXAllen]

Nah, this will be our Tier One weaponry

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Jokes aside, if we built this variant in sufficiently large quantity, that will be:

MENGERIKAN!!! BIKIN TNI AMERIKA CINA KETAR KETIR!!! for real.

I mean, imagine a carrier battle group from a certain nation passing through one of our main straits or major sea lanes when suddenly their radar pick up hundreds of anti-ship missiles heading toward them from all direction... While they might still not enought to sink the aircraft carrier, at the very least some of her escorts will be seriously damaged from this kind of attack.

 

[Stuka Dive]

Jokes aside, if we built this variant in sufficiently large quantity, that will be:

MENGERIKAN!!! BIKIN TNI AMERIKA CINA KETAR KETIR!!! for real.

I mean, imagine a carrier battle group from a certain nation passing through one of our main straits or major sea lanes when suddenly their radar pick up hundreds of anti-ship missiles heading toward them from all direction... While they might still not enought to sink the aircraft carrier, at the very least some of her escorts will be seriously damaged from this kind of attack.

This is will be similar with the "swarm tactic" by the iranian naval

 

[FPXAllen]

This is will be similar with the "swarm tactic" by the iranian naval

P r e c i s e l y

With additional benefits, or drawbacks - depending on how you see it - that we have numerous sea lanes where we can either pick the fight, or will have to spread those forces thin to guard them all.

 

[Stuka Dive]

and

P r e c i s e l y

With additional benefits, or drawbacks - depending on how you see it - that we have numerous sea lanes where we can either pick the fight, or will have to spread those forces thin to guard them all.

And this is sounds like the "oblique order" tactic that Napoleon was used against the much larger enemies division. Just type "oblique order" in youtube to see how it's work

 

[Madokafc]

Jokes aside, if we built this variant in sufficiently large quantity, that will be:

MENGERIKAN!!! BIKIN TNI AMERIKA CINA KETAR KETIR!!! for real.

I mean, imagine a carrier battle group from a certain nation passing through one of our main straits or major sea lanes when suddenly their radar pick up hundreds of anti-ship missiles heading toward them from all direction... While they might still not enought to sink the aircraft carrier, at the very least some of her escorts will be seriously damaged from this kind of attack.

Boats without decent air defense system Will be obliterated by swarm of air launched Missiles/rocket from Helicopters or Aircraft far away from the position of Frigates or Destroyer

 

[FPXAllen]

Boats without decent air defense system Will be obliterated by swarm of air launched Missiles/rocket from Helicopters or Aircraft far away from the position of Frigates or Destroyer

True that. But I never meant to write something like "putting all of our eggs in one basket".

It's simply because to have enough detterence, such small and fast boats need to be built in large numbers and perhaps to let the Navy or Marine corps operate them instead of the Army for that scenario I mentioned earlier.

 

[Madokafc]

True that. But I never meant to write something like "putting all of our eggs in one basket".

It's simply because to have enough detterence, such small and fast boats need to be built in large numbers and perhaps to let the Navy or Marine corps operate them instead of the Army for that scenario I mentioned earlier.

Not worth the resource must be spent at, looking at potential conflict is in far away ocean or fighting big in seas over air and sea routes dominance (to defend ALKI I, II and III) , much more like the repeat of Japanese invasion of Netherland Dutch Indies. The way Indonesia Navy in future is a proper Fleet Armada, nothing else.

 

[lastlarst]

Jokes aside, if we built this variant in sufficiently large quantity, that will be:

MENGERIKAN!!! BIKIN TNI AMERIKA CINA KETAR KETIR!!! for real.

I mean, imagine a carrier battle group from a certain nation passing through one of our main straits or major sea lanes when suddenly their radar pick up hundreds of anti-ship missiles heading toward them from all direction... While they might still not enought to sink the aircraft carrier, at the very least some of her escorts will be seriously damaged from this kind of attack.

And if it is combined with a swarm Underwater Unmanned Vessel a.k.a midget to add the blow by launching their torpedos from nowhere, it will be serious chaos. But this UUV proposed by PT PAL's new director is still far from reality by the way.

 

[Umigami]

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[trishna_amrta]

Iver Huitfeldt class documentary

And this is a very interesting documentary of life onboard the HMS Duncan (Type 45)

 

[wekiweko]

how i wish we can replace all those parchims, DPN and BTO with REM type vessels.

 

[lastlarst]

how i wish we can replace all those parchims, DPN and BTO with REM type vessels.

Imho DPN, BTO, and REM are still relatively new and they will serve until at least next decade. The Parchims class on the other hand needs to be replaced soon.

 

[R4duga]

And this is a very interesting documentary of life onboard the HMS Duncan (Type 45)

i heard so much problem enroached this british type 45, but rarely heard with it's french and italians counterpart (Orizzonte / Andrea doria).

 

[trishna_amrta]

i heard so much problem enroached this british type 45, but rarely heard with it's french and italians counterpart (Orizzonte / Andrea doria).

Linguistic barrier. Which is why you unlikely heard / read anything about it. It's the same thing with any English language media or Anglophone policy & decision maker thought about

 

[archwings]

Linguistic barrier. Which is why you unlikely heard / read anything about it. It's the same thing with any English language media or Anglophone policy & decision maker thought about

that might be the case but it is apparent that the type-45 suffered from engine issue (fatal design flaw) which are unfound on its sister (orizonte) as they use different engine.