Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Lordimperator]

Ketar-ketir

Lol 8 ssn at ur backyard

Well mum, it still gonna happen and escalating quickly

Well Its her job to de escalating through diplomacy

 

[Var Dracon]

Ketar-ketir

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438683540573458434

Well mum, it still gonna happen and escalating quickly. Whether you like it or not.

Don't Tell Mom I'm in Natuna

 

[Gary]

So, current confirmed upcoming ship for TNI-AL currently include:

To be built:
- 6x FREMM frigate
- 2x Maestrale frigate
- 2x Arrowhead 140 frigate

The Maestrale are already finished

 

[Gary]

How many VLS it will carry? Are they still projecting it as AAW frigate?

this is for the 143+M version.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1426088381491163138

but we ordered for the 140M variant....so maybe less ????

Ketar-ketir

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438683540573458434

Well mum, it still gonna happen and escalating quickly. Whether you like it or not.

as long as the Australians use their nuclear attack boats for educational and medical purpose we should not worry to much.

 

[Lordimperator]

The Maestrale are already finished

Maybe he means *Refurbished

educational and medical purpose

And disaster relief

 

[wekiweko]

Ketar-ketir

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438683540573458434

Well mum, it still gonna happen and escalating quickly. Whether you like it or not.

Well mr and mrs. diplomat should now either (i) advise the govt to pick a side and become a reliable partner to whoever we choose to be bff with (and this should apply for the long run), and (ii) learn that in real world you have to carry a big stick if you want other people to listen to you carefully.

If they don't want to do both then that post is what i called as "mokondo"

 

[FPXAllen]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438532488129822729

Is SM400 Dutch or British radar?
CAMM opportunity is high now!

Also 16 vls but 1 equipped for 4 missiles = 64 missiles, still a juggernaut for me

The tweet: "The real value will be..."
My meme-infected brain: "The real treasure was the friendship we made along the way..."

Italian Frigates, English (Danish) Frigates and hopefully Japanese Frigates deal soon

Indonesia aim is to compete against Australia and China high end surface combatant warships assets

FREMM + Maestrale, AH140, FFM30... All in all, if everything goes well, we'll have about, what? 14 new and 2 refurbished frigates after 2024?

Re: compete against China. Still not even close. Their shipyards churn out frigates and destroyers like peanuts or "kacang rebus" like there's no tomorrow.

 

[R4duga]

Maybe he means *Refurbished

And disaster relief

it's not the first time we see a nuclear sub used for SAR / Disaster relief mission

Huge nuclear sub rescues crew of tiny boat off Russia's NW coast (PHOTOS)

When people on board a small motorboat trapped by a storm in the northern White Sea radioed SOS, they didn't expect that help would come in the form of a 154m-long nuclear submarine.

www.rt.com

Russian Nuclear Submarine Rescues Sailors in Distress​

 

[wekiweko]

The tweet: "The real value will be..."
My meme-infected brain: "The real treasure was the friendship we made along the way..."


FREMM + Maestrale, AH140, FFM30... All in all, if everything goes well, we'll have about, what? 14 new and 2 refurbished frigates after 2024?

Re: compete against China. Still not even close. Their shipyards churn out frigates and destroyers like peanuts or "kacang rebus" like there's no tomorrow.

well in all fairness i believe not even the USA can compete with the pace of PRC's ship building

at the very least we need to have the capability to welcome some trespassing ships and ram those ships if they decide to do something stupid and brings our big bully friends to gang up on them if they decide to retaliate

 

[Lordimperator]

it's not the first time we see a nuclear sub used for SAR / Disaster relief mission

Huge nuclear sub rescues crew of tiny boat off Russia's NW coast (PHOTOS)

When people on board a small motorboat trapped by a storm in the northern White Sea radioed SOS, they didn't expect that help would come in the form of a 154m-long nuclear submarine.

www.rt.com

Russian Nuclear Submarine Rescues Sailors in Distress​

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"It's not uncommon for the Navy to rescue civilian ships"
WOW
*free tour to the sub i wanna one too

 

[R4duga]

well in all fairness i believe not even the USA can compete with the pace of PRC's ship building

at the very least we need to have the capability to welcome some trespassing ships and ram those ships if they decide to do something stupid and brings our big bully friends to gang up on them if they decide to retaliate

i rather hope to never see US revived it's wartime industrial might again.

 

[FPXAllen]

Since factually, we have no hope of achieving even a "partial parity" with the juggernauts from the North, South, and from the other side of the globe within the next decade, we really need to be smart and develop something that at the very least can cause headaches for their generals and bloody noses for their naval assets should they dare to invade us.

well in all fairness i believe not even the USA can compete with the pace of PRC's ship building

at the very least we need to have the capability to welcome some trespassing ships and ram those ships if they decide to do something stupid and brings our big bully friends to gang up on them if they decide to retaliate

Oh, I completely agree with that.

We still need to procure big ships for our navy, that's for sure. But in order to be able to cause a maximum hindrance in the shortest amount of time against the Northern juggernaut (and others as well if the situation reversed somehow), we need a lot more of smaller, fast, both ordinary and low observable boats armed with missiles.

And submarines! And MPA aircraft armed with AShM, torpedoes and sea mines! As well as medium transport, multi-role amphibious aircraft that can land and take off in adverse weather and sea conditions like the ShinMaywa US-2!

(Yes, I'm a fanboy of the latter. It's easy to see why despite its price tag, though).

In short: asymmetric sea warfare.

 

[R4duga]

pretty interesting stuff especially at 03:44 timestamp onwards, showing how much modularity this platform can handle, babcock actually even manage to design a mast for what's it's looks like an AN/SPY-6 radar(AEGIS).

 

[Umigami]

pretty interesting stuff especially at 03:44 timestamp onwards, showing how much modularity this platform can handle, babcock actually even manage to design a mast for what's it's looks like an AN/SPY-6 radar(AEGIS).

replace VLS there? really?
make it to be 32 vls will be pretty easy then!

 

[Umigami]

 

[Lordimperator]

replace VLS there? really?
make it to be 32 vls will be pretty easy then!

Love the way he put the vls back after he realized there isnt enough room on the back of naval gun, at 2nd stage

So this is from canteen guard,
24 vls for aaw? 6 canister?

 

[Umigami]

Love the way he put the vls back after he realized there isnt enough room on the back of naval gun, at 2nd stage

So this is from canteen guard,
24 vls for aaw? 6 canister?

from his Video:

2 x 6 cells VLS for Medium range SAM
2 x 6 cells VLS for Long range SAM
2 x 8 cells VLS for AShM
2 x 76 mm oto melara
1 x CIWS 35 mm

so VLS for SAM will be 12 or 24 ?

 

[NEKO]

So, current confirmed upcoming ship for TNI-AL currently include:

To be built & receive:
- 6x FREMM frigate
- 2x Maestrale frigate
- 2x Arrowhead 140 frigate

In construction:
- 2x KCR-60 FAC
- 2x PC-60m Patrol vessel
- 2x OPV-90m
- 2x 60m MCM vessel
- 1x 125m Replenishment oiler
- 1x 123m Hospital assistance ship

Finishing phase (fitting out equipment):
- 4x 117m LST
- 1x 60m trimaran FAC
- 1x 123m Hospital assistance ship
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Total: 26 ship to be launched, fitted, and crewed for the next 5-15 years.

Also,

Current contract with unclear status:
- 3x DSME Submarine deal
- 1x 95m Replenishment oiler

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That's a lot of new crew that needed to man those vessel IMO.

How about interim submarine, money have been allocated for that right?

 

[Lordimperator]

12 or 24

24 both from total mr and lr sam,
2x8 vls ashm?

 

[NEKO]

Re: compete against China. Still not even close. Their shipyards churn out frigates and destroyers like peanuts or "kacang rebus" like there's no tomorrow.

We are strengthening our military for self defense, they are strengthening their military to invade Taiwan and also because of territorial ambitions.