Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[FPXAllen]

"Bushmaster is not enough to cool us down mate, we want more...."

Anyone else hear that? LOL

+ "So what more do you want? Our Collins-class sub? Canberra-class LHD? Hobart destroyers?"
- "Nah, mate. We just need one."
+ "What's that? Tell us."
- "Give us Darwin, and all will be forgiven."
+ "..."

 

[Umigami]

"Bushmaster is not enough to cool us down mate, we want more...."

Anyone else hear that? LOL

Free licence to produce Bushmaster and Hawkey, stop supporting OPM, and your support for us to get F35!!

 

[Stuka Dive]

With the recent developments in the region, such as AUKUS and QUAD, it may be a good time for our Defence Think Tank and Policy Makers to re-assess MEF, to see whether it is still relevant. The timing is also right as MEF will end by 2024...so it may be good to start thinking of transition plan to MEF Part 2. It should not only around equipment procurement and replacement, but more importantly around capability building. I am seeing urgent need for our TNI AL (Armed Forces) capability to track submarine movements within our waters.....maybe MAD equipped CN 295/235 MPA's, SOSUS net...?? Network Centric for sure and ensuring strong coordination and comm among TNI AL, AU and AD.

I guess I am wary that we may not be ready in adapting to this new threat environment....

With the AUKUS suspicious stance in which building long range attack capabilities and nuclear technology introduction to Australia at our backyard, All of our Defense policy makers and think tank should be able in developing opinion for Indonesia to get the most sophisticated air defense system such as S-400 at the minimum.
In brief, We should have freedom in decided what defense systems are the best suited for our needs procured from all over the world without loosing assertiveness against China, just like what India do for its defense capabilities.

 

[Umigami]

Kement network - man in the loop, dual mode seeker in Block II. Not very far in some years an Atmaca will be fired somewhere will be able to be updated via tactical link from another asset (MPA, other ship, UAV, USV).

Don't know what will be extends of the export variant but the current one gives flexible waypoint adjustment compared to the westerns and newer approach patterns. It is not just for FACs, in the same class as exocet, harpoon. they are developing MRAShM with IIR seeker that may be adopted as lighter one for smaller platforms.

Despite of what Alman says, Turkey is not striving to make sales on certain projects anymore like in the past, so it is not just about a financial approval but there are other factors to be solved before this sales happening.

Do turkey develope any VLS for submarine and cruise/ballistic missiles for it right now?

(Just for my imagination if MoD try to get Type 216 )

 

[Anmdt]

Do turkey develope any VLS for submarine and cruise/ballistic missiles for it right now?

(Just for my imagination if MoD try to get Type 216 )

For now they focus in capsule launched missiles ( sub-atmaca and sub-LACM ), we never know the future.
Even if it is available in future, i think MTCR will restrict it.

 

[Madokafc]

Do turkey develope any VLS for submarine and cruise/ballistic missiles for it right now?

(Just for my imagination if MoD try to get Type 216 )

The Korean and French have the technology at the moment

 

[NEKO]

it may be a good time for our Defence Think Tank and Policy Makers to re-assess MEF

But MEF will end in 2024 should focus for that in IEF or OEF, AU nuclear sub will be delivered several decades later we still can prepare for that in post 2024+.

We need new offensive capability to have like cruise missile, and ballistic missile.

 

[FPXAllen]

We need new offensive capability to have like cruise missile, and ballistic missile.

Don't stop halfway, then. We need hypersonic cruise missiles.

Not that there are any countries currently developing or begin deploying such missiles that will sell us those things, though.

 

[wekiweko]

Indonesia need a strong navy to fight and win battle from the ZEE up to our territorial water. until we expand, improve and excel our striking power, power projection capability and maintenance, our nenek moyang is not a pelaut but more of a petani

 

[Umigami]

But MEF will end in 2024 should focus for that in IEF or OEF, AU nuclear sub will be delivered several decades later we still can prepare for that in post 2024+.

We need new offensive capability to have like cruise missile, and ballistic missile.

AUS will get their nuke sub faster. They plan to rent some in the near future.

 

[Madokafc]

TUSAŞ, Endonezyalı Havacılık Devi PTDI İle MoU İmzaladı

Türk Havacılık ve Uzay Sanayii (TUSAŞ), Endonezya’nın en büyük havacılık şirketi PTDI (PT Dirgantara Indonesia) ile bir mutabakat zaptı (MoU) imzaladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Indonesia's interest in Turkish defense industry products is increasing day by day. Indonesia had ordered the ZOKA Acoustic Torpedo Countermeasure Jammer and Deception system from ASELSAN in the past years.

KAPLAN Medium Class Tank, ZARGANA Torpedo Countermeasure System for Submarines and ACAR Land Surveillance Radar developed by FNSS are among some Turkish defense industry products currently used by the Indonesian Army.

Indonesia shows great interest in the ANKA Medium Altitude – Long Endurance (MALE) class UAV produced by TAI and the KORKUT Self-Propelled Low Altitude Air Defense Artillery System manufactured by ASELSAN.

On the other hand, it is known that similar interest is also for MİLGEM and ALTAY.

 

[NEKO]

our nenek moyang is not a pelaut but more of a petani

Wkwk I feel personally attacked.

MİLGEM and ALTAY

Not sure about this.

 

[FPXAllen]

Wkwk I feel personally attacked.

Not sure about this.

"Showing interests" doesn't necessarily mean that we're interested in buying them, though.

 

[Umigami]

TUSAŞ, Endonezyalı Havacılık Devi PTDI İle MoU İmzaladı

Türk Havacılık ve Uzay Sanayii (TUSAŞ), Endonezya’nın en büyük havacılık şirketi PTDI (PT Dirgantara Indonesia) ile bir mutabakat zaptı (MoU) imzaladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Indonesia's interest in Turkish defense industry products is increasing day by day. Indonesia had ordered the ZOKA Acoustic Torpedo Countermeasure Jammer and Deception system from ASELSAN in the past years.

KAPLAN Medium Class Tank, ZARGANA Torpedo Countermeasure System for Submarines and ACAR Land Surveillance Radar developed by FNSS are among some Turkish defense industry products currently used by the Indonesian Army.

Indonesia shows great interest in the ANKA Medium Altitude – Long Endurance (MALE) class UAV produced by TAI and the KORKUT Self-Propelled Low Altitude Air Defense Artillery System manufactured by ASELSAN.

On the other hand, it is known that similar interest is also for MİLGEM and ALTAY.

Try to get Turkish weaponry and censor for Elang Hitam, and buy some Anka too.

About Altay...
Hmmm.... I think better for us to get Leo2A8 instead, but Altay is good alternative though.

 

[Madokafc]

Shivalik class and Bing Tomo class

 

[Lordimperator]

MİLGEM

Corvette?

 

[Madokafc]

Corvette?

Should be

But that's long time ago interest though, don't know if they are rekindle the long lost love story. The Turks had move on and found serious buyer in Pakistan along with Ukraine. Indonesia had goes to European solution (Italia and UK), so the story is kinda move like five centimeter per second anime...

 

[R4duga]

intermezzo...

romanian just cancelled 1,2$ billion gowind contract from naval group .....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438772500415004676

french must have been rolling their eyes now

 

[Lordimperator]

french must have been rolling their eyes now

Especially NG, lets see what will happen in our sub program. Will they survive

 

[Madokafc]

intermezzo...

romanian just cancelled 1,2$ billion gowind contract from naval group .....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1438772500415004676

french must have been rolling their eyes now