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So yesterday was 'delivery ceremony' not 'commissioning ceremony'? Or for TNI AL both terms are interchangeable?
I have the same question too.
It seems to me now that the ambiguous term of "delivery" is being used since KRI Golok still hasn't fully armed yet - just a manually operated cannon for show - with no known plan of when it will be fully equipped.
 

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Like the idea put in like this boat
hope next SSV or LPD use the same concept with tank boat or X38

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Our LPD and Philippines SSV have small boat / LCU although without cabin/bridge like this one.

Not sure if it will work putting antasena on LPD, how about modifying current LCU design, cover the top then put bridge and turret on it like antasena.

I have the same question too.
It seems to me now that the ambiguous term of "delivery" is being used since KRI Golok still hasn't fully armed yet - just a manually operated cannon for show - with no known plan of when it will be fully equipped.
When in Indonesia, do as Indonesian do. That is just how it is, just accept it.
The term PKR is also ambiguous, and I just accept that.
 

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Don't forget that most likely Antasena has higher maintenance and resupply need (including to resupply the ammo) than an LCU----> easier to perform in well deck (IMO)
 
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I have the same question too.
It seems to me now that the ambiguous term of "delivery" is being used since KRI Golok still hasn't fully armed yet - just a manually operated cannon for show - with no known plan of when it will be fully equipped.
At least they could get a RCWS though, but consider this one as a "prototype", although it is not exactly one. They will test this through their way of operation.

Sea trials don't cover all needs of a Navy to see efficiency of newer hulls.
 

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If Antasena or KMC is to big n heavy put in at side .. X38 with rcws turret will good idea ..
i prefer this kind boat for raid then sea rider .. seems more protective than open like sea rider...
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Spesification​


General​


Basic Functions

: Patrol, Interdiction, Amphibious, forces insertion

Hull Material

: Fibre Reinforced Plastic

Dimensions​


Length Ovaer All

: 12.40 m

Beam Over All

: 4.60m

Draught

: 1.00m

Displacement

: 7,160 Kg

Fresh Water

: 480 L

Propulsion​


Main Engines

: 2 x Diesel Engine 400 HP

Gearbox

: Velvet Drive 72L - HP

Drives

: Konrad 660

Performance​


Speed (Max Power)

: 40 knots

Speed (Cruising)

: 25 knots

Range

: 240 Nm

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Just a placeholder. They wouldn't want to receive it bare-handed. I hope the real weaponry would be stealth 40 or 57 mm.
Above the bridge? Is there enough room for that?
In front of the bridge I don't see any place to mount weapon.
 

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Like the idea put in like this boat
hope next SSV or LPD use the same concept with tank boat or X38

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that's actually a good presentation for our Makassar class derivative design, those ambulance vessels some other times can be reconfigured as USV, and our Makassar can also have derivative role as USV mothership like the singaporean MRCV.
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Handover ceremony video of KRI Golok-688 and KRI dr. Wahidin Soedirohusodo-991.


^^ Looks like the 20mm gun on the KRI Golok is the manual operated Yugoimport Naval AD M71/08.

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less armed than Antasena then ......

wonder if they will commence the 3rd prototype with this design.
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or let's hope they've come out with much more better design with much more better space management for weapon placement, Klewang with more teeth than KCR-60 might've been welcomed by our netizen.
 

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Handover ceremony video of KRI Golok-688 and KRI dr. Wahidin Soedirohusodo-991.


^^ Looks like the 20mm gun on the KRI Golok is the manual operated Yugoimport Naval AD M71/08.

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looks like oerlikon millennium won't fit in there
what a disappointment that they put that gun in such a great ship
I have the same question too.
It seems to me now that the ambiguous term of "delivery" is being used since KRI Golok still hasn't fully armed yet - just a manually operated cannon for show - with no known plan of when it will be fully equipped.
At least they could get a RCWS though, but consider this one as a "prototype", although it is not exactly one. They will test this through their way of operation.

Sea trials don't cover all needs of a Navy to see efficiency of newer hulls.
Just a placeholder. They wouldn't want to receive it bare-handed. I hope the real weaponry would be stealth 40 or 57 mm.
you sure that it's temporary???
that they have a better plan to replace this RCWS
 

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RIP crew of Nanggala 402 😔
 

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According to this article a MHI sales team have been in Jakarta since last year.

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"The same applies to a separate deal with Japan, which had a sales team ensconced in Jakarta for much of last year seeking to sell the Indonesians eight stealthy Mogami-class multi-mission frigates at an overall cost of $3.6 billion.

Under a provisional plan, Mitsubishi and Mitsui were to deliver four of the 5,000-tonne vessels, beginning in late 2023, and for the other four to be built by PAL in what would have been the biggest-ever arms deal between the two countries."

 
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According to this article a MHI sale team have been in Jakarta since last year.

Excerpts.

"The same applies to a separate deal with Japan, which had a sales team ensconced in Jakarta for much of last year seeking to sell the Indonesians eight stealthy Mogami-class multi-mission frigates at an overall cost of $3.6 billion.

Under a provisional plan, Mitsubishi and Mitsui were to deliver four of the 5,000-tonne vessels, beginning in late 2023, and for the other four to be built by PAL in what would have been the biggest-ever arms deal between the two countries."

If we buy 30FFM and there is plan to build it in Indonesia, I think that Indonesia don't need to rush about the deal and can take it slowly, AH140 and FREMM is still in queue to be build in PAL facility, considering that these 3 ship is quite large I wonder if PAL can build it in paralel (bener2 dibangun bareng2 jejer2an gak nyicil dulu nunggu yang 1 selese.)

Even if they have been courting us for years there is still possibility the deal won't push through.
 

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