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It's a cool-looking model, alright. But somehow seeing Pindad's nameplate on the ZAHA's front rubs me wrong.
I mean, it's not as if they developed it from scratch although it's a different matter if it's also a part of the deal with FNSS.
I doubt if MoU has progressed any bit (possibly waiting for a greenlight for procurement but Pindad could take initiative to start it, redesigning and tuning for Indonesia), but FNSS doesn't care about anything such.

Pohang supposed to be given out as a gift alongside some procurement, doesn't it?

its almost a year ehh?
AH140 involves a major customization so the delay is understandable but what the hell is wrong with FREMM contract that involves minimum customization? Financial realization of a contract shouldn't take this long.
 

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I doubt if MoU has progressed any bit (possibly waiting for a greenlight for procurement but Pindad could take initiative to start it, redesigning and tuning for Indonesia), but FNSS doesn't care about anything such.
Business is business, I guess.

I personally would prefer that Pindad or any other Indonesian SOEs in similar cases just state things as they are, and not try to give a false impression of "fully developed domestically" when they're not.

Sigh...

AH140 involves a major customization so the delay is understandable but what the hell is wrong with FREMM contract that involves minimum customization? Financial realization of a contract shouldn't take this long.
Well, this is Indonesia that we're talking about. Inefficiencies aren't something that we're too concerned about. No wonder many foreign defense companies find it frustrating to deal with us.
 

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I personally would prefer that Pindad or any other Indonesian SOEs in similar cases just state things as they are, and not try to give a false impression of "fully developed domestically" when they're not.
Maybe because its a win-win solution?
Pindad-> can boost their popularity in public eyes.
Foreign company-> whatever, at least they can sell their product in Indonesia, the reality doesn't change that they are the one who did the RnD.
 

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Maybe because its a win-win solution?
Pindad-> can boost their popularity in public eyes.
Foreign company-> whatever, at least they can sell their product in Indonesia, the reality doesn't change that they are the one who did the RnD.
Yep. And the Indonesian public in general will be none the wiser.

Stroking the ego of "karya anak bangsa", and having the delusion of grandeur because of it.
 

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Well, this is Indonesia that we're talking about. Inefficiencies aren't something that we're too concerned about. No wonder many foreign defense companies find it frustrating to deal with us.
Lol it would be funny if they failed the 2nd times. Atleast ME countries like Egypt or Morocco interested to buy the allocated slot.
 

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Yea and how do Ukraine knew the location to be exact? Why the raptor stationed in Poland? why the P8 is still actively hovering around the "international or friendly airspace" nearby? Perhaps its the same thing when P8 hovering around Singapore airspace when they were not allowed to do in ours? Hard to tell :unsure: 😁
 

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Navy readies 12 warships for G20 Summit security​


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Chief of Navy Staff Admiral Yudo Margono at the position handover ceremony of Commander of the Fleet Commander from Vice Admiral Abdul Rasyid to Rear Admiral Heru Kusmanto at Arafuru Yard of Fleet Command I, in Central Jakarta on Tuesday, September 27, 2022.

Jakarta (ANTARA) - The Navy has readied 12 warships to secure the G20 Summit scheduled to take place in Bali in November 2022.

"In the meantime, we are preparing 12 warships, and later, we will appoint Fleet Commander II Admiral T.S.N.B. Hutabarat, as the operational control command, in order to secure the sea," Chief of Navy Staff Admiral Yudo Margono stated after a position handover ceremony of Commander of the Fleet Commander from Vice Admiral Abdul Rasyid to Rear Admiral Heru Kusmanto at Fleet Command I here on Tuesday.

According to Margono, the security plan for the G20 Summit was still being discussed by National Defense Force Commander General Andika Perkasa.

Margono said his command had discussed about some warships that will be dispatched for the G20 Summit security plan.

He also hinted at the possibility of security from warships of other countries whose delegations were participating in the G20 Summit.

"(It is) because this is the Indonesian territory, and of course, we will control them. In this marine sector, we will arrange the position of foreign warships, the position of (our own) warships conducting patrols," he remarked.

This had become an international agreement, in which a country that hosted events had ships of other countries that would guard their head of state in the host country's territory, and then the host country will arrange the patrols, he remarked.

The 17th G20 Summit will be hosted in Bali on November 15-16, 2022. The summit will be the peak of an intensive process and efforts throughout the G20 workflow of Ministerial-Level Meetings, Working Groups, and Engagement Groups during Indonesia's year-long presidency.

Indonesia's theme for the 2022 G20 Presidency is "Recover Together, Recover Stronger," which served as the government's call to the world to work hand in hand, support one another to recover together, and grow stronger in a sustainable manner.

The three main priority issues raised at the meeting were the global health architecture, sustainable energy transition, and digital and economic transformation.

The G20 was a multilateral cooperation forum comprising 19 major countries and the European Union. The G20 represents over 60 percent of the world's population, 75 percent of global trade, and 80 percent of the world's Gross Domestic Product.

Its members included South Africa, the United States, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Australia, Brazil, India, Indonesia, the United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Republic of Korea, Russia, France, China, Turkey, and the European Union.

 

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