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[GraveDigger388]

Yesterday someone tweet and even put it in Facebook page, mentioned Indonesian contract with Fincantieri already expired

Fincantieri Seeks to Satisfy Conditions for Indonesian FREMM Frigate Deal
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IMDEX 2023: Fincantieri seeks to satisfy conditions for Indonesian FREMM frigate deal
5th May 2023 - 01:00 GMT | by Harry Lye in Changi

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Italian Navy FREMM ITS Antonio Marceglia pictured during an exercise. (Photo: USN)

Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri is continuing to work with Indonesia to satisfy the conditions for a FREMM frigate contract to enter into effect.

Despite signing a contract for Indonesian FREMM frigates in June 2021, the deal is still not effective, the company has confirmed to Shephard ahead of the IMDEX Asia 2023 event in Singapore.

Under the 2021 deal, Fincantieri was awarded a contract for six FREMM frigates and the sale and modernisation of two Maestrale-class frigates.

The contract terms see Fincantieri as the prime contractor in collaboration with Indonesian shipbuilder PT Pal.

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The country has ordered two general-purpose frigates under a deal with Babcock to license the Arrowhead 140 design, the basis for the UK’s Inspiration-class Type 31 frigates.

The latter ships are being built locally by PT Pal and are known locally as the ‘Red and White’ ships - a nod to the country’s flag.

Steel has already been cut for the first of the two frigates under the deal.

Fincantieri also told Shephard that it had held several discussions with Indonesia on different maritime requirements, including submarines.

A spokesperson said: ‘Fincantieri is an important group with a large product portfolio: our attitude is to present ourselves as a partner for an important customer such as Indonesia, ready to satisfy the related operational needs.’

Indonesia currently operates two classes of submarines, the Cakra- and Nagapasa-classes from Germany and South Korea, respectively.

However, with growing tensions in the region, Jakarta needs more boats.

In total, the country fields four boats, one Cakra and three Nagapasas, but wants a fleet of 12 SSKs.

Three further Nagapasa-class boats are on order; however, questions have arisen around the status of this effort.

French shipbuilder Naval Group has inked an MoU with PT Pal for the potential sale of two Scorpene-class submarines, which could pave the way for a more comprehensive effort to fulfil Indonesia’s underwater requirements.

In March 2023, during the visit of French LHD Dixmude to Indonesia, Naval Group and PT Pal briefed the Indonesian Navy about their submarine capabilities.

Germany's Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) is also interested in supplying submarines to Indonesia, with discussions taking place regarding the Type 214 design.

TKMS confirmed its interest to Shephard at NAVDEX 2023 in Abu Dhabi.

With its extensive portfolio of vessels, the Italian shipbuilder believes it usually has the right solution for different requirements.

The company sees the Indo-Pacific as an extremely important area from a geopolitical perspective and its ‘exponential’ growth rate.

The spokesperson said: ‘For Fincantieri, it is an area of strategic importance on which we focus in terms of business development.'

IMDEX 2023: Fincantieri seeks to satisfy conditions for Indonesian FREMM frigate deal | Shephard

Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri is continuing to work with Indonesia to satisfy the conditions for a FREMM frigate contract to enter into effect.

www.shephardmedia.com

So to sum it up, FREMM is actually already underway?

 

[Madokafc]

So to sum it up, FREMM is actually already underway?

If it is not for whatever reason Indonesian Navy delegation keep coming to Italy ? Vaccation?

 

[GraveDigger388]

If it is not for whatever reason Indonesian Navy delegation keep coming to Italy ? Vaccation?

I mean, I heard that Italy is a beautiful place after all....

Anyway, that's good news (though only for me. I suppose it's not exactly new, apparently). Any estimates as to when they are gonna be delivered?

 

[Madokafc]

I mean, I heard that Italy is a beautiful place after all....

Anyway, that's good news (though only for me. I suppose it's not exactly new, apparently). Any estimates as to when they are gonna be delivered?

The MoD already asked for budget and already in Bappenas, if all goes well PSP should be issued at least in the end of 2023 or 2024. Rupiah Murni pendamping pembiayaan should be released later, working should be started in 2025 or later.... First delivery should be between in 2029-2030.

 

[GraveDigger388]

The MoD already asked for budget and already in Bappenas, if all goes well PSP should be issued at least in the end of 2023 or 2024. Rupiah Murni pendamping pembiayaan should be released later, working should be started in 2025 or later.... First delivery should be between in 2029-2030.

Wishing all goes well.

 

[Lordimperator]

working should be started in 2025 or later.... First delivery should be between in 2029-2030

Will PAL get the share to build FREMM like the initial plan?

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655454733384171522

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655482613161951233

 

[Anmdt]

Yesterday someone tweet and even put it in Facebook page, mentioned Indonesian contract with Fincantieri already expired

Every offer is submitted with an expiry date for financial reasons. Thus, it is on point. A contract despite of being signed, if not going into effect in presumed time, is expired (mainly the financial offer) and the expiry date is the noted date to prevent financial losses due to the inflation or surplus in material - component prices.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655511024051814401

 

[R4duga]

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...bmarines-with-usd216-billion-in-foreign-loans

the nominal feels like a subliminal message U216, glad the news mention (AIP Capable) and i hope further specs reveal/clarity would stay the same like that.

 

[Umigami]

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...bmarines-with-usd216-billion-in-foreign-loans

the nominal feels like a subliminal message U216, glad the news mention (AIP Capable) and i hope further specs reveal/clarity would stay the same like that.

"the defence minister laid out a list of 25 Indonesian National Armed Forces procurement programmes for which foreign loans have been proposed as the funding source in 2023."

I want to know the rest 24

 

[Umigami]

What's submarine with 2800 ton submerged displacement?

 

[this is crunch]

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/...bmarines-with-usd216-billion-in-foreign-loans

AIP Scorpene aye?
Like what the other day "insider people" says, but still, 2 bil digit is a bit too much, no?

 

[Lordimperator]

AIP Scorpene aye?
Like what the other day "insider people" says, but still, 2 bil digit is a bit too much, no?

Much more expensive than Kalvari class scorpene,

 

[Umigami]

Much more expensive than Kalvari class scorpene,

But kavalri is smaller.

Seems like NG is offering us something like S-Br but with AIP.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655747292165705728

 

[RadenSudirman]

What's submarine with 2800 ton submerged displacement?

Walrus-class from Netherlands

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655779475295178752

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1655779475295178752

LACM, wonder if MoD could acquire MdCN for Scorpene