Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Ravager]

Why bring Spain into this?

My mistake ... Somehow i got mixed between fincantieri and navantia .. i apologized .. lacks of morning's coffe are taking their toll on my mind here ..

 

[Lordimperator]

My mistake ... Somehow i got mixed between fincantieri and navantia .. i apologized .. lacks of morning's coffe are taking their toll on my mind here ..

So its the Italian wkwk
Whats the possibility it will be 2 Bergamini + 2 Paolo Thaon?

 

[Ravager]

So its the Italian wkwk
Whats the possibility it will be 2 Bergamini + 2 Paolo Thaon?

Seriously , everybody scrambling for every piece of the pies these days . Anything could happen .. that's all i could say ...

 

[flogger]

Don't forget the japanese to they also hot

 

[NEKO]

Don't forget the japanese to they also hot

Yes indeed, the japanese are hot.
Lel.

 

[Gary]

PPA on the list, no FREMM

 

[Lordimperator]

PPA on the list, no FREMM

No ongoing opv90 too

 

[Anmdt]

PPA on the list, no FREMM

There is MRTP 18 on the list, and i haven't heard of Yonca Shipyard (ex. Yonca&Onuk) exporting MRTP, or having a '18' variant. Has north sea boats just snapped the MRTP term?

 

[NEKO]

PPA on the list, no FREMM

Oh, I kinda agree with this.
That's mean FMP will be our main combatant, if needed then we can have several variant of it.

 

[this is crunch]

As you see, the upper photo is Royal Navy Type 31 design, and below are TNI-AL Fregat Merah Putih design. Just comparing the two based on the models, there are some notable differences between designs. Starting from the bow
1. IDN version doesn't have extra anchor on the bow

2. IDN version has bow thruster.

3. It looks like the IDN version have 3 different shapes mooring holes.

4. Behind the first main gun, The RN version seems to have twin 324mm torpedo launcher.

5. The gunnery option are different, the RN chooses the combination of 57mm Bofors main gun and 40mm Bofors for the second gun, while IDN chooses both Oto Melara 76mm for main and secondary gun.

6. Different preferences for radar and censory.

7. The RN version has 2 door openings on each side enabling to deploy more cargo i.e container or RHIBS depending on configuration,

8. I don't know if its a mishap or really the final approved design, but the IDN exhaust tower is inverted from the RN, the port side (left side of the ship) of IDN is placed aft wards while the Type 31 is very much stays the same with the original design.

9. The IDN version has second long range radar and CIWS on the very aft of the ship, above hangars. whilst RN doesn't have second radar, and equipped with another 40mm Bofors at the back.

 

[deadlast]

4. Behind the first main gun, The RN version seems to have twin 324mm torpedo launcher.

Decoy launcher, not torpedo tubes, Naval Passive Off-Board Decoy (N-POD).

 

[Gary]

2x PC-60M under construction

 

[Mandala]

Credit to Times Indonesia.

 

[Mandala]

Patrol boats to Indonesia, orders to Muggiano​

The negotiation for the sale of two warships is close to conclusion: they should be the "Giovanni della Bande Nere" and the "Marcantonio Colonna"​

DANIELE IZZO

November 15, 2023 at 10:55 2 minute

A Fincantieri patrol vessel

La Spezia - Italy is preparing to sell two multipurpose offshore patrol vessels to Indonesia. The deal has not yet materialized, but the negotiation is close to completion. Spezia, once again, comes close to major international military maneuvers. This time for a double reason. The first: the two ships affected by the rumors have passed or will pass through the Fincantieri shipyards in Muggiano. The second: the talks between the two nations arise from the Indo-Pacific tour of the PPA Francesco Morosini, which started from the Gulf of Poets. There are two units under observation, but there are no certainties.

The boats built by Fincantieri, which Italy will hand over to the Indonesian government, could be among those launched but not in service. Or include those not yet inaugurated. There are many possibilities. Although, according to what has been said by qualified sources, two ready-made multi-purpose offshore patrol vessels will be sold: the "Giovanni delle Bande Nere" and the "Marcantonio Colonna". Uno, launched in 2022 in Riva Trigoso and then transferred to Muggiano for preparation on the quay, is the first full version PPA. Delivery to the Navy is scheduled for 2024. But at this point, if the negotiations were to come to fruition, it could be directly delivered to the Indonesian government like the Colonna, the other unit built and launched between the Gulf of Poets and the Tigullio. Indonesia, as well as other countries in the Asian region, wants fleet numbers and technology quickly.

The talks between the two nations began between spring and summer. After leaving La Spezia last April 6, the Morosini touched several eastern ports. Among these also Jakarta, where the local navy had the opportunity to closely observe its futuristic qualities. The multipurpose offshore patrol vessel, in fact, represents a highly flexible type of ship, capable of carrying out multiple tasks. There are three variants designed: Light, Light plus and Full. What changes from one model to another are the configurations of the combat system. We start from a "light" version, which can carry out patrolling missions but is integrated with self-defense systems. And we get to the "complete" one, equipped with maximum response capabilities. Their distinctive line is the bridge in naval cockpit version. Designed with the help of aviators to resemble that of an airplane, it requires only two men to operate the unit. And it is not a characteristic to be underestimated, if you consider that the ships in question are an impressive 143 meters long and can be used in various fields, from disaster relief to complete war combat.

Read more:

Pattugliatori all’Indonesia, le commesse al Muggiano

È vicina alla conclusione la trattativa per la vendita di due supernavi da guerra: dovrebbero essere il “Giovanni della Bande Nere” e il “Marcantonio Colonna”

www.ilsecoloxix.it

 

[Gary]

Superwarship lmao

 

[Mandala]

Superwarship lmao

LMAO. Just edited it.

 

[Mandala]

PPA Marcantonio Colonna.

 

[Khagan1923]

Any reason the FREMM purchase seems not to be happening? Would think the IDN would especially go for those ships seeing how they seem the most capable design?

 

[Umigami]

Patrol boats to Indonesia, orders to Muggiano​

The negotiation for the sale of two warships is close to conclusion: they should be the "Giovanni della Bande Nere" and the "Marcantonio Colonna"​

DANIELE IZZO

November 15, 2023 at 10:55 2 minute

A Fincantieri patrol vessel

La Spezia - Italy is preparing to sell two multipurpose offshore patrol vessels to Indonesia. The deal has not yet materialized, but the negotiation is close to completion. Spezia, once again, comes close to major international military maneuvers. This time for a double reason. The first: the two ships affected by the rumors have passed or will pass through the Fincantieri shipyards in Muggiano. The second: the talks between the two nations arise from the Indo-Pacific tour of the PPA Francesco Morosini, which started from the Gulf of Poets. There are two units under observation, but there are no certainties.

The boats built by Fincantieri, which Italy will hand over to the Indonesian government, could be among those launched but not in service. Or include those not yet inaugurated. There are many possibilities. Although, according to what has been said by qualified sources, two ready-made multi-purpose offshore patrol vessels will be sold: the "Giovanni delle Bande Nere" and the "Marcantonio Colonna". Uno, launched in 2022 in Riva Trigoso and then transferred to Muggiano for preparation on the quay, is the first full version PPA. Delivery to the Navy is scheduled for 2024. But at this point, if the negotiations were to come to fruition, it could be directly delivered to the Indonesian government like the Colonna, the other unit built and launched between the Gulf of Poets and the Tigullio. Indonesia, as well as other countries in the Asian region, wants fleet numbers and technology quickly.

The talks between the two nations began between spring and summer. After leaving La Spezia last April 6, the Morosini touched several eastern ports. Among these also Jakarta, where the local navy had the opportunity to closely observe its futuristic qualities. The multipurpose offshore patrol vessel, in fact, represents a highly flexible type of ship, capable of carrying out multiple tasks. There are three variants designed: Light, Light plus and Full. What changes from one model to another are the configurations of the combat system. We start from a "light" version, which can carry out patrolling missions but is integrated with self-defense systems. And we get to the "complete" one, equipped with maximum response capabilities. Their distinctive line is the bridge in naval cockpit version. Designed with the help of aviators to resemble that of an airplane, it requires only two men to operate the unit. And it is not a characteristic to be underestimated, if you consider that the ships in question are an impressive 143 meters long and can be used in various fields, from disaster relief to complete war combat.

Read more:

Pattugliatori all’Indonesia, le commesse al Muggiano

È vicina alla conclusione la trattativa per la vendita di due supernavi da guerra: dovrebbero essere il “Giovanni della Bande Nere” e il “Marcantonio Colonna”

www.ilsecoloxix.it

Giovani is Full spec PPA!

 

[Lordimperator]

Any reason the FREMM purchase seems not to be happening? Would think the IDN would especially go for those ships seeing how they seem the most capable design?

$$$, covid hits very hard