Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

Lordimperator

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Correspondent
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
5,021
Reactions
3 2,867
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Leonardo out from the FMP program and Havelsan has to pay the penalty to Leonardo. Now radar on FMP planned with Aselsan Cafrad.
 

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
5,501
Solutions
2
Reactions
118 24,879
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Why Havelsan has to pay the penalty? If i recall correctly there is no contract in progress.
It should be vice-versa if Leonardo is not fulfilling the contract and withdrawing after the signature.
If there is something wrong unfortunately it is at the project management. They better not take this to court.
 

Lordimperator

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Correspondent
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
5,021
Reactions
3 2,867
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Why Havelsan has to pay the penalty? If i recall correctly there is no contract in progress.
It should be vice-versa if Leonardo is not fulfilling the contract and withdrawing after the signature.
If there is something wrong unfortunately it is at the project management. They better not take this to court.
i dont know the fiasco precisely, it's still a question for me too. the military enthusiats has the rumour that IDN sides wants all Turkiye made equipments to be fitted on FMP.
 

Mandala

Contributor
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
874
Reactions
1 1,746
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
i dont know the fiasco precisely, it's still a question for me too. the military enthusiats has the rumour that IDN sides wants all Turkiye made equipments to be fitted on FMP.
He got the source from this youtube video:


We all know who own Sobat Militer youtube account. Yes its our favorite francophile.
 

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
5,501
Solutions
2
Reactions
118 24,879
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
i dont know the fiasco precisely, it's still a question for me too. the military enthusiats has the rumour that IDN sides wants all Turkiye made equipments to be fitted on FMP.
Logically, if the contractor (PAL) gave a contract to Leonardo and then failed to fulfill the requirement, payment or obligations and later canceled the contract without excuse, the contractor should pay a remedy.

Both Havelsan and Leonardo are contractors here, I don't know why they would have to pay each other anything. They are both subcontractors.
 

Mandala

Contributor
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
874
Reactions
1 1,746
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Indonesian Navy chief signals potential defense deals with China​


November 12, 2024 14:34 GMT+700

Indonesian Navy chief signals potential defense deals with China

Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) Admiral Muhammad Ali delivers press statements at a marines base in Jakarta on Tuesday (November 12, 2024). ANTARA/Genta Tenri Mawangi.

Jakarta (ANTARA) - Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) Admiral Muhammad Ali hinted at the possibility of Indonesia procuring Chinese defense equipment following President Prabowo Subianto's visit to Beijing on November 8-10.

"Thank God, talks in China went well and harmoniously. We will step up bilateral cooperation in all sectors, including defense. There is a possibility of procuring defense equipment from the People's Republic of China," he answered ANTARA's question in Jakarta on Tuesday.

Ali noted that he cannot yet share details on the types of equipment to be purchased by the TNI AL.

"Maybe I can provide more information once contracts have been signed," he remarked.


Furthermore, the admiral told journalists that he and Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Air Force (TNI AU) Marshal Tonny Harjono had participated in President Prabowo's meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Li Qiang.


Read more : https://en.antaranews.com/news/3338...ef-signals-potential-defense-deals-with-china
 

Lordimperator

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Correspondent
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
5,021
Reactions
3 2,867
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Indonesian Navy chief signals potential defense deals with China​


November 12, 2024 14:34 GMT+700

Indonesian Navy chief signals potential defense deals with China

Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) Admiral Muhammad Ali delivers press statements at a marines base in Jakarta on Tuesday (November 12, 2024). ANTARA/Genta Tenri Mawangi.

Jakarta (ANTARA) - Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) Admiral Muhammad Ali hinted at the possibility of Indonesia procuring Chinese defense equipment following President Prabowo Subianto's visit to Beijing on November 8-10.

"Thank God, talks in China went well and harmoniously. We will step up bilateral cooperation in all sectors, including defense. There is a possibility of procuring defense equipment from the People's Republic of China," he answered ANTARA's question in Jakarta on Tuesday.

Ali noted that he cannot yet share details on the types of equipment to be purchased by the TNI AL.

"Maybe I can provide more information once contracts have been signed," he remarked.


Furthermore, the admiral told journalists that he and Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Air Force (TNI AU) Marshal Tonny Harjono had participated in President Prabowo's meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Li Qiang.


Read more : https://en.antaranews.com/news/3338...ef-signals-potential-defense-deals-with-china

jancok, hope what happen with anti aircraft gun purchased from china will not happen again.
We are eyeing something bigger😅
 

satria

Contributor
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
1,205
Reactions
9 1,691
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Hundreds of Indonesia Marines and Australian Military Soldiers Conduct Amphibious Operations on Banongan Beach

01jcj63tg37e2n5f1t3edvrq4k.jpg

673476efab2b9-viva-militer-prajurit-marinir-tni-al-dan-adf-gelar-operasi-amfibi-di-banongan_1265_711.jpg

v1epfndea95qi7r.jpeg

IMG-20241113-WA0053.jpg


pictures from many source
 

Lordimperator

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Correspondent
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
5,021
Reactions
3 2,867
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,447
Reactions
5 5,261
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Are we adapting STOM ?

Before Garibaldi, AL already aiming for LHD, also with a lot of exercise we did with US marine, it's supposed to be, right?
 

Lordimperator

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Correspondent
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
5,021
Reactions
3 2,867
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

View attachment 14327
even so it just a scratch draw, it become italian fremm alike with that radome mast
now the latest image of FMP
1731667169842.png


From Lembaga Keris Instagram

are those Cenk S and Cafrad CFR mast?
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,447
Reactions
5 5,261
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
5,501
Solutions
2
Reactions
118 24,879
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
now the latest image of FMP
View attachment 72063

From Lembaga Keris Instagram

are those Cenk S and Cafrad CFR mast?
I think that's still from Leonardo, notice the ESM / ECM system on top of the mast, that's exactly what PPA and others have as ESM / ECM.

Fire Control Radar, Helicopter approach radar (MAR-D) and Volumetric Search Radar (CENK-S) seems to be from Aselsan, onmi directional IFF antenna (part of CAFRAD) also resembles Aselsan's product.

It seems to have two TACAN antenna, little strange.
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom