Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[chiphocks]

Curious with the attack helicopter silhouette. Looks more like a Mi-28N. Or is it Apache?

Ka-52K "Katran" ???

 

[Mandala]

Ka-52K "Katran" ???

I don't think so. No two contra rotor system. And the helicopter silhouette has what looks like a chin gun or a belly gun.

 

[NEKO]

Curious with the attack helicopter silhouette. Looks more like a Mi-28N. Or is it Apache?

Mi 28 stub wing is joined with the engine nacelle, and for the silhouette in the pic it's stub wing and the engine nacelle are separated.

I think its a no-konde apache.

 

[FPXAllen]

I don't think so. No two contra rotor system. And the helicopter silhouette has what looks like a chin gun or a belly gun.

Despite the badge's silhouette resembling the AH-64 Apache, wasn't there a plan to equip Kormar with AH-1 helicopters?

If that plan has already been shelved, this might mean that the carrier can only be used as a temporary flight deck for the Army's Apaches, depending on operational requirements, given that their rotors are not designed to fold like those of the AH-1Z.


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Photo: https://www.dvidshub.net/image/4335590/ah-1z-viper-maintenance

 

[NEKO]

 

[Mandala]

Mi 28 stub wing is joined with the engine nacelle, and for the silhouette in the pic it's stub wing and the engine nacelle are separated.

I think its a no-konde apache.

Yes it looks more like an Apache silhouette without the Longbow radar.

 

[NEKO]

Despite the badge's silhouette resembling the AH-64 Apache, wasn't there a plan to equip Kormar with AH-1 helicopters?

If that plan has already been shelved, this might mean that the carrier can only be used as a temporary flight deck for the Army's Apaches, depending on operational requirements, given that their rotors are not designed to fold like those of the AH-1Z.


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Photo: https://www.dvidshub.net/image/4335590/ah-1z-viper-maintenance

Let AL try with AD apache first for now, see how it goes. If later they want viper, i think its fine. They can get bunch of them, as its not only for KRI 100 but also 101, 102, 103 in the future.

Hopefully they can think it through, so wont end up like panther asw.
Panther asw is perfect fit for PKR, but with PPA, FMP, I class, more frigates , destroyer and LHD which can accomodate bigger heli, panther is very lacking (because of its small size thus limited payload capability and range).

 

[Mandala]

Despite the badge's silhouette resembling the AH-64 Apache, wasn't there a plan to equip Kormar with AH-1 helicopters?

If that plan has already been shelved, this might mean that the carrier can only be used as a temporary flight deck for the Army's Apaches, depending on operational requirements, given that their rotors are not designed to fold like those of the AH-1Z.


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Photo: https://www.dvidshub.net/image/4335590/ah-1z-viper-maintenance

Actually Apache rotor blades can be folded.

 

[chiphocks]

which one is the most possible one?
Apache Longbow or AgustaWestland Apache??

i think the UK have a plans / used to have a plan to retire AgustaWestland Apache around 2030-2040....

Wiki AgustaWestland Apache

or maybe even T129 ATAK since Indonesia relationship with Turkey is getting better and better?

 

[Var Dracon]

Butterfly effect: Fictional flag made for internet now became part of something, then something, then something until now it is also added to KRI Srivijaya emblem.

The Srivijaya flag is nonexistent, there is no record or inscription mentioned it. It was made in 2010s.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2103153721144459539

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2103168570331160874

 

[NEKO]

or maybe even T129 ATAK since Indonesia relationship with Turkey is getting better and better?

Could be, but a naval variant.

Although currently no such version avaliable and Turkey also not use it on their LHD.

 

[chiphocks]

Could be, but a naval variant.

Although currently no such version avaliable and Turkey also not use it on their LHD.

hmmmm, could be a no could be a possibility for a new project between Indonesia and Turkey

 

[Sanchez]

TAI has its hands full with T625 and its naval variant and T925 and its many variants. Turkish Navy already have its AH-1Ws so there's no great push for attack helicopters. T929 is on the backburner for years to come.

T129 is a licensed product that would require many years of development to navalize and its development cycle is mostly complete.

I don't think Indonesia would be interested in AW249 and accept its navalization costs as Italian Navy is not interested in attack helicopters at this time.
I think the helicopter on the crest above is a generic one, not implying any specific helicopter.

 

[FPXAllen]

Actually Apache rotor blades can be folded.

I stand corrected, then.

Although it must be said that there are differences between the folding rotor systems of a helicopter designed for shipboard operations and those of a helicopter primarily intended for land-based operations.

In the latter case, the folding system is primarily intended to facilitate transportation and storage. It was not developed around the requirements of frequent and repeated folding aboard a ship, particularly when the procedure is manually operated and requires ground crew support. Furthermore, a land-based helicopter permanently stationed aboard a ship would face greater exposure to the maritime environment, making corrosion protection and maintenance another consideration.

 

[Mandala]

"The USV 21M built by PT Tesco Indomaritim appears to carry 4 canister/missile launchers for anti-ship missiles, likely AShM of the Çakır type manufactured by Roketsan. Meanwhile, on the ship's bow section, there is an RCWS, the type carried likely being the SARP 200/12.7L manufactured by Aselsan."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2103444274868269365

 

[Mandala]

Newly arrived AAV7-A1 for the Marines already painted with new camo. Can we please just get rid of those bright yellow and glowing "Marinir" letter markings. Whats good is the camo if an enemy can see that damn vehicle with that bright yellow "Marinir" markings from a distance. Lol.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2103815088113373593

 

[Mandala]

AAV7-A1 test.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2104412469863047572

 

[Mandala]

Fincantieri and PT PAL Indonesia sign agreement for the modernization of the Indonesian Navy's KRI SRIWIJAYA ( former Giuseppe Garibaldi)​

28 set 2026

Fincantieri, one of the world’s leading shipbuilding groups, and PT PAL Indonesia, the country's leading state-owned shipbuilder, signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) establishing a framework for cooperation on the future modernization program of the Indonesian Navy’s KRI SRIWIJAYA (former Giuseppe Garibaldi).

The agreement was signed in Jakarta by Mauro Manzini, Vice President Sales of the Fincantieri Naval Vessels Division, and Djenod Kaharuddin, President Director of PT PAL Indonesia.

Fincantieri and PT PAL Indonesia will collaborate on the vessel’s modernization program, combining their respective expertise and jointly defining the scope of activities and responsibilities within the program. As the ship's original designer and builder, Fincantieri will contribute its extensive knowledge of the platform, while PT PAL will leverage its established capabilities in naval shipbuilding, integration, maintenance and support service.

The program is intended to maximize the vessel’s operational effectiveness across a broad range of missions, from defense and maritime security operations to humanitarian assistance and emergency response activities, while supporting the long-term capability development objectives of the Indonesian Navy.

Through this agreement, Fincantieri and PT PAL Indonesia will jointly define the most effective approach for the vessel’s future modernization, drawing on the complementary strengths of the two companies and their long-standing experience in the naval sector, while also creating opportunities for broader industrial cooperation between Italy and Indonesia, including the involvement of leading industrial players and technology partners from both countries. The participation of additional stakeholders will foster the integration of advanced technologies, the development of local capabilities and the creation of long-term value for Indonesia’s maritime and defense ecosystem.

Read more: https://www.fincantieri.com/en/news...avy-s-kri-sriwijaya-former-giuseppe-garibaldi

 

[Mandala]

Wow total 105 units.

"Navy Chief Laksamana TNI Muhammad Ali stated that the Indonesian Navy will receive 105 AAV-M35 armored amphibious vehicles in three waves for the Marines. As many as 12 of the 35 units from the first wave have already been received & 23 units will arrive at the end of November 2026. The second wave of 35 units in 2027 and the final 35 units in 2028."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2104507664252510492