Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[BBOn]

Are you a police or what? People will going to the jail because of upload that names? Huhh?. That names were already everywhere and no one ranting about it like you.

Stop being naive. If you wanna be a vigilante, I will become more vigilante than you.

Why you get angry because of my comments? Are u have problems with someone who have their free speech here, mate???? Why I am need to be police to understand how dangerous the list name would be?
Are u understand submariner crew have vital information regarding their activities. Even by knowing information for their next voyage is valuable info and think how if they get threatened???
Thats why I saying we have information management problem. They are not dead yet until futher clarification and why they issues thing same like passenger ship accidents, they should not doing that.

 

[NEKO]

I did. My apologies, I'm not trying to self promote myself or anything. But here's what I wrote:

https://gbp.com.sg/regional_stories/kapal-selam-tni-al-kri-nanggala-hilang-kontak-di-laut-bali/

Or in English:

Indonesian Navy Submarine Reported Missing At Sea

KRI Nanggala (402), a Type 209/1300 submarine of the Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL), is reportedly missing around 95 km North off coast of Bali Island on Wednesday.

gbp.com.sg

I've only written what's confirmed at the time of writing and no, I didn't just 'google translate' anyone posts from here.




The current world record for free diving is 214 meters and it can only be achieved through rigorous training which is not everyone's forte. From that depth, one must pause several times during surfacing to allow the nitrogen build-up inside blood vessels to dissipate first before continue. If the diver surfaced too fast, he / she risks decompression sickness which can be fatal.

I have talked with TNI-AL divers on several ocassions. If memory serves me right, they told me that it's not a simple task to surface from 'just' 50 meter depth even with diving equipments.

Edit: here's the link about free diving and decompression risks for anyone interested:

Decompression And Freediving – What Are The Real Risks? - DeeperBlue.com

Learn the risks of getting decompression sickness while freediving, and how to prevent it.

www.deeperblue.com

The Indonesian government has also requested assistance from Singapore and Australia. Both countries have dispatched their submarine rescue vessels to the area.

Is there any confirmation about this? Because
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[NEKO]

 

[FPXAllen]

The Indonesian government has also requested assistance from Singapore and Australia. Both countries have dispatched their submarine rescue vessels to the area.

Is there any confirmation about this? Because
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My sources said so, again, at the time of writing.

Now it appears that they couldn't and that India has stepped in instead.

Gotta revise the articles now.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1385171589096824834

 

[Umigami]

Still waiting for KRI Harimau's multibeam echosounder scan result here...

 

[NEKO]

is our new changbogo have a standarized hatch where DSRV can connect/mating with the submarine hull incase something like this happened ? because the latest info i got , nanggala doesn't have such capability .
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I think nanggala have it.

Just zoom it.
Thats escape trunk right? Or just normal hatch.

 

[schuimpjes]

Why you get angry because of my comments? Are u have problems with someone who have their free speech here, mate???? Why I am need to be police to understand how dangerous the list name would be?
Are u understand submariner crew have vital information regarding their activities. Even by knowing information for their next voyage is valuable info and think how if they get threatened???
Thats why I saying we have information management problem. They are not dead yet until futher clarification and why they issues thing same like passenger ship accidents, they should not doing that.

Just blame the one that exposed that first, don't blame someone that upload that. You cannot stop information.

 

[Van Kravchenko]

better to use side-scan sonar

Currently that stuff only carried by KRI Rengat and Rupat.

The question is, could this stuff scan in the 500 m + sea bed ? Am asking about the cabability of ours arsenal rightnow.

Normally this SIDE scan Sonar user for minehunting.

 

[Madokafc]

From this case we can see which Nation is friend in need and which one is not and trying to do something naughty against us instead.

Thanks for Singapore, Malaysia and India for their effort

 

[schuimpjes]

From this case we can see which Nation is friend in need and which one is not and trying to do something naughty against us instead.

Thanks for Singapore, Malaysia and India for their effort

Wkwkwk wow that easy huh?

 

[NEKO]

Currently that stuff only carried by KRI Rengat and Rupat.

The question is, could this stuff scan in the 500 m + sea bed ? Am asking about the cabability of ours arsenal rightnow.

Normally this SIDE scan Sonar user for minehunting.

Uhh i dont know about those ship capabilities, but for rigel and spica then yes.


Dan dilengkapi dengan peralatan AUV (Autonomous Underwater Vehicle) yang berfungsi melaksanakan pencitraan bawah laut sampai dengan kedalaman 1000 meter dan mengirimkan kembali data secara periodik ke kapal utama dalam hal ini kapal BHO. Selain itu, juga dilengkapi dengan ROV (Remotely Operated Vehicle), SSS (Side Scan Sonar), Laser Scaner untuk mendapatkan gambaran daratan, AWS (Automatic Weather Station), Echosounder Multibeam laut dalam dan Singlebeam, Peralatan CTD (Conductivity Temperatureand Depth), Gravity Corer, kelengkapan Laboratorium serta kemampuan survei perikanan.

KOLINLAMIL FASILITASI PENYERAHAN KAPAL PERANG CANGGIH DARI KEMHAN KEPADA TNI AL > W E B S I T E - T N I A L > Seremonial

 

[Captain Wales]

My sources said so, again, at the time of writing.

Now it appears that they couldn't and that India has stepped in instead.

Gotta revise the articles now.

any news that why australia couldn't send their SRV?
maintenance issue? or else?

 

[Captain Wales]

I think nanggala have it.

Just zoom it.
Thats escape trunk right? Or just normal hatch.

heard form some sources that naggala don't have escape seat capability (dsrv docking), i dont know if that true or not. any confirmation?

 

[Umigami]

heard form some sources that naggala don't have escape seat capability (dsrv docking), i dont know if that true or not. any confirmation?

This?

 

[Anmdt]

heard form some sources that naggala don't have escape seat capability (dsrv docking), i dont know if that true or not. any confirmation?

If that is the case then why swift rescue and Indian submarine rescue ship is on the way? The DSRV can dock at different places in different ways.

If the submarine is not in deep water, I think technically we can use our other submarine to rescue those sailors right ??

It can not rescue them, but it can detect them. as a common practice if submariners failed to launch emergency buoys, or even if they did, they start to knock on the steel hull repeatedly both to disclose their location and communicate with DSRV operators informing them about which section is flooded and which part is secure to dock.
Those knocks called hull tapping and they have a code which DSRV operators can interpret.

 

[Captain Wales]

This?

i read it on a website comment (forgot which one), probably quoting from this guy.

 

[Jaka45]

Do you guys think it will be much wiser for navy to decommission 401 (cakra) after this incident ?

Because of the age and it seem like both class doesn't have escape seat capability too.
I guess there is no problem for the navy to operate 3 submarine for several years and waiting for new sub.

 

[NEKO]

What is this escape seat thing?

 

[Captain Wales]

What is this escape seat thing?

The ability to mate the submarine with dsrv,