Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[R4duga]

though i salute for everyone involved in the search and rescue effort either from indonesia side who pointed the location of the vessels , or the foreign entities who helped us in making the visual contact with the wreckage .

finding submarine wreckage in just a span of 5 days after it's loss is not an easy task , a previous incident may take month or even year .

RIP to the fallen

 

[Van Kravchenko]

though i salute for everyone involved in the search and rescue effort either from indonesia side who pointed the location of the vessels , or the foreign entities who helped us in making the visual contact with the wreckage .

finding submarine wreckage in just a span of 5 days after it's loss is not an easy task , a previous incident may take month or even year .

RIP to the fallen

Something make me proud is Rigel can detect something for more than 800 m.

But still, this is sad news.

Does any one can identity the remain of 402?
Is it still one peice or shattered apart?

 

[schuimpjes]

Keyword: Kabinda. Search that now!

Note: I knew this thread is not about BIN or Army, but whatever.

 

[Panca]

Something make me proud is Rigel can detect something for more than 800 m.

But still, this is sad news.

Does any one can identity the remain of 402?
Is it still one peice or shattered apart?

Yes. Rigel did a great job.

Al Fatihah buat korban.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1386275422678130690

 

[Panca]

Keyword: Kabinda. Search that now!

Berikut Kronologi Penembakan Kabinda Papua : Okezone Nasional

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www.google.com

 

[Madokafc]

though i salute for everyone involved in the search and rescue effort either from indonesia side who pointed the location of the vessels , or the foreign entities who helped us in making the visual contact with the wreckage .

finding submarine wreckage in just a span of 5 days after it's loss is not an easy task , a previous incident may take month or even year .

RIP to the fallen

Well, i am more concerned on how we are to cope the aftermath of this incident. KRI Nanggala 402 set crew is one of the most experience and best we had, they had nurturing decades worth of knowledge and set skill as submariner and now in this incident, just as most of the senior crew is training new batch of Submariner in this drill, they had to perished. meanwhile this happened when Indonesia Navy is already set to expanding the silent service....there is bound to many cancellation of programme (especially live excercise, drill, routine sailing and so on) and even basic training mostly being done with using simulator.

 

[guest_07]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Others

Persevere & be patient, my brother.
May Allah give the Shaheed, Jannah.

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1386029077207867394

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Keyword: Kabinda. Search that now!

Note: I knew this thread is not about BIN or Army, but whatever.

Brigadir Jendral as a victim, surely Army will go all out this time.

May the fallen give the best place in afterlive ,

 

[flogger]

They have tries their best to save nanggala after the black out KRI REM detect 402 at 100 m dept at 2,5 kt speed before it's hull floded and the 402 sunk at 800M dept

 

[R4duga]

They have tries their best to save nanggala after the black out KRI REM detect 402 at 100 m dept at 2,5 kt speed before it's hull floded and the 402 sunk at 800M dept

so the 2,5kt object detected previously was nanggala ? i thought it's the one that has been founded by KRI Rimau with strong magnetic signature .

 

[Umigami]

They have tries their best to save nanggala after the black out KRI REM detect 402 at 100 m dept at 2,5 kt speed before it's hull floded and the 402 sunk at 800M dept

Where did you get that conclusion?

 

[flogger]

Where did you get that conclusion?

That is not importent my friend you can just ignore it or you can say it's juta my personal asumption regard

 

[trishna_amrta]

it's cakra not nanggala , some of the soldier died to rapid decompression , and it's rather a very different case than nanggala , because that time cakra actually really did a submarine rescue drill where the crew get out from the conning tower .

Latihan SAR, Komandan Kapal Selam Tewas

SITUBONDO – Latihan SAR (search and rescue) TNI AL di perairan Pasir Putih, Situbondo kemarin berubah menjadi operasi penyelamatan yang sebenarnya.

www.jpnn.com

That is always the hazard with deep dive. There is simply no exact number as to how much a human body could handle pressure, because every individual is different. The best we can do is making guesstimate. And the best way to make guesstimate is by routinely training to check our own limit (which remind me. I haven't done any activity / training to check my own limit since 2017)

Well, i am more concerned on how we are to cope the aftermath of this incident. KRI Nanggala 402 set crew is one of the most experience and best we had, they had nurturing decades worth of knowledge and set skill as submariner and now in this incident, just as most of the senior crew is training new batch of Submariner in this drill, they had to perished. meanwhile this happened when Indonesia Navy is already set to expanding the silent service....there is bound to many cancellation of programme (especially live excercise, drill, routine sailing and so on) and even basic training mostly being done with using simulator.

Although I strongly agree that we need to completely re-evaluate everything down to the smallest detail in the operating procedures and temporarily postpone any major live drill, going to with the simulator path will severely hurt proficiency in the mid-long term.

One doesn't just stop real world training because of an accident no matter how bad it was, that is a defeatist mentality. What we do is to learn from it as what went wrong and what went right, and rectifying what went wrong and maintaining what went right.

 

[Madokafc]

Where did you get that conclusion?

You know old Kaskus id Boleroes?

 

[Umigami]

You know old Kaskus id Boleroes?

Aaaaaaa.....

 

[trishna_amrta]

Aaaaaaa.....

aaaaaa.... oooooo.... so who is Boleroes?

 

[Madokafc]

That is always the hazard with deep dive. There is simply no exact number as to how much a human body could handle pressure, because every individual is different. The best we can do is making guesstimate. And the best way to make guesstimate is by routinely training to check our own limit (which remind me. I haven't done any activity / training to check my own limit since 2017)


Although I strongly agree that we need to completely re-evaluate everything down to the smallest detail in the operating procedures and temporarily postpone any major live drill, going to with the simulator path will severely hurt proficiency in the mid-long term.

One doesn't just stop real world training because of an accident no matter how bad it was, that is a defeatist mentality. What we do is to learn from it as what went wrong and what went right, and rectifying what went wrong and maintaining what went right.

What i mean, they already mulling to stopping most of the actual drill and other live excercise for Submarine for a while. This in line with strong urgency to do audit and investigation of the case (as it is one of the most severe either in number of victim along with the loss of major equipment they had suffer after the sinking of KRI Macan Tutul decades ago). And this surely Will impact our preparation to expand the fleets in near future. As they actually already put several important crew of Nanggala as trainer and future officers of our new Submarine....

 

[flogger]

I am flogger at old kaskus regard