Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Anmdt]

How they manage to integrated the gun with firing combat system of the ship? Or it is independently worked as stand alone system?

Wasn't there a Chinese CMS on that ship already?
I think Russian gun and Chinese software would be going well together. Chinese can do some magic to integrate it.
On the other hand the gun has its own E/O, it means it will be fully independent.

 

[Mandala]

So, w cant share data from CIWS radar to Main gun FCS ?

Poor. Cant wait for this ship to sunk

How could you even say something like that?!? Hoping this ship to sink.

 

[Gary]

One Alman tweet every week to keep your sanity away.

It is Iver but at least a year is needed for requested modifications which hasn't commenced yet, + the know-how transfer for construction, 2023- early 2024 seems hard for now.

Another shipyard also means a new shipyard apart from PT. PAL with zero experience in frigate construction, at least +2 years for the first hull on construction side, for system integration it is up to magic. If it is anybody else but PAL don't really expect the ship before 2028.

imo it will be late, PAL had these contract some time ago with a foreign company to modify the ships in which we have no details on what extent they will modify it, would it only the increase of tonnage or there might be facia re-design?? we don't know for sure, we already got some info that PAL will be the only shipyard that will construct the Iver, so there's no point in talking about private shipyards anymore.

if everything is going on plan, that means 10 months from now which is 2022,just to finish the final design, we're not even talking about first steel cutting, and the govt expect the #1 hulls to be launched in 2023, I wonder what's with that optimism consider that we took like almost 2 years just to build KCR-60s.

 

[Mandala]

Wasn't there a Chinese CMS on that ship already?
I think Russian gun and Chinese software would be going well together. Chinese can do some magic to integrate it.
On the other hand the gun has its own E/O, it means it will be fully independent.

Agree.

Basicly its like a IFV turret on a boat with its own optic.

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[Madokafc]

Marine corps

 

[Ryder]

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Marine corps

Indonesian Marines. They got some nice gear really like the Camos. Indonesia is full jungles and forests the camo suits really well.

 

[NEKO]

Indonesian Marines. They got some nice gear really like the Camos. Indonesia is full jungles and forests the camo suits really well.

This camo is used by all branches not exclusively for the marines.
Without the beret, insignia and patch I can't tell where the soldier is from (army, air force, navy (+marine)).

Sometimes the camo looks good and blends well with the surrounding but sometimes it doesn't. Depends on the region and seasons.

This one is used by marines only.

 

[Captain Wales]

Indonesian Marines. They got some nice gear really like the Camos. Indonesia is full jungles and forests the camo suits really well.

DPM would be effective if it were a bit faded, the color were not too bright compared to the new one.

it also help that they currently wearing a green or tan gear instead the standard issued black one.

 

[trishna_amrta]

Indonesian Marines. They got some nice gear really like the Camos. Indonesia is full jungles and forests the camo suits really well.

Are you referring to this camo pattern?

The "frog pattern" is a copy of the WW2 USMC pattern

or the good 'ol British Woodland DPM?

The Woodland DPM is all service standard BDU, and serve alongside branch / unit specific pattern

DPM would be effective if it were a bit faded, the color were not too bright compared to the new one.

it also help that they currently wearing a green or tan gear instead the standard issued black one.

There is nothing wrong with the current Woodland DPM pattern IF it wore at the intended environment, in this case tropical jungle environment (thick, tall broadleaves bushes) during daylight.

 

[Madokafc]

Real Strela

Rucika PVC mk1

 

[Var Dracon]

Real Strela

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Rucika PVC mk1

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The second one is a mockup?

 

[Madokafc]

The second one is a mockup?

It is as clear as day

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[R4duga]

i see the meprolight reflex sight (m21) becoming common in TNI optic arsenal beside trijicon , perhaps cheap buat quality made .

 

[Madokafc]

i see the meprolight reflex sight (m21) becoming common in TNI optic arsenal beside trijicon , perhaps cheap buat quality made . View attachment 22044

Kosher stuff?

 

[R4duga]

Kosher stuff?

yes

 

[Aghost132483]

Are you referring to this camo pattern?

The "frog pattern" is a copy of the WW2 USMC pattern

or the good 'ol British Woodland DPM?

The Woodland DPM is all service standard BDU, and serve alongside branch / unit specific pattern


There is nothing wrong with the current Woodland DPM pattern IF it wore at the intended environment, in this case tropical jungle environment (thick, tall broadleaves bushes) during daylight.

Stupid camo, let's throw away this WW2 era camo, it's not blend with the environment, only for ceremonial purpose, what a waste of budget

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Stupid camo, let's throw away this WW2 era camo, it's not blend with the environment, only for ceremonial purpose, what a waste of budget

Its still good in use for operating at wet environtment, especially when the locations is not so thick with green bush or tree.

Each pattern made for specific use， they aren' useless

 

[Mandala]

Stupid camo, let's throw away this WW2 era camo, it's not blend with the environment, only for ceremonial purpose, what a waste of budget

Its way better than those Air Force blue camo. They even painted their radar vehicles with that blue camo. What on earth are they thinking. Lol.

 

[Required]

DPM would be effective if it were a bit faded, the color were not too bright compared to the new one.

it also help that they currently wearing a green or tan gear instead the standard issued black one.

Hey, none want to talk about SAMAR? I think it is still the best for now. (Although I Don't know when it'll be issued for regular troops)

They even blend with our backyard "Kebon".

Credit to Elemental Industry Facebook Page.

 

[schuimpjes]

Camos

Locally that camo called as Malvinas. 80s were filled with up to date officers.

It is as clear as day

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CZ-805: Usually seen used by Navy.
G36: Rarely seen used by Air Force.
MCX: Police and BIN.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Sexy MCXs used by STIN students.
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