Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[FlyinMandau]

You're all wrong

It's clear that JMSDF Training Squadron visit to Surabaya is related to Kemenkes anime video on TikTok (uploaded a day before)

they gonna kidnap yudha-kun?

 

[Panca]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1410017486058278913

U214 win?

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1410017486058278913

U214 win?

Why they need to shorten lead time anyway?
MoD give them tight schedule?
That's dangerous.

 

[archwings]

seriously it baffles me, instead of offering u214/216/218, they offer us another u209??? it's f---- insulting! let's just give the contract to naval group and order some am-2000 scorpene.

 

[Umigami]

seriously it baffles me, instead of offering u214/216/218, they offer us another u209??? it's f---- insulting! let's just give the contract to naval group and order some am-2000 scorpene.

The question is, why they have to give proposal with short lead time in the first time?
I hope MoD didn't give TKMS and Naval tight Deadline and we ended up with half-baked submarine again!

 

[Lordimperator]

short lead time in the first time?

2024

 

[Lordimperator]

am-2000 scorpene.

Will it has x-rudder?

 

[Umigami]

2024

For submarine case. That's dangerous.

 

[chiphocks]

The question is, why they have to give proposal with short lead time in the first time?
I hope MoD didn't give TKMS and Naval tight Deadline and we ended up with half-baked submarine again!

imagination mode on

Indonesia ask to build the submarine together, German say no, Indonesia said "Fine, but you have to finished by yyyy-mm-dd, cause if we build it together it will finishied by that time"

imagination mode off

please Germans, U214 is a little million dollar upgrade for one of the greatest Navy in the world

 

[Madokafc]

Babcock reveals export opportunities for Type 31 frigate​

By: Andrew Chuter   10 hours ago
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The warship being purchased by Britain is known as the Arrowhead 140. (Babcock International)​

Correction: This story was updated June 29 with the name of the Babcock International chief executive.
LONDON — The British shipbuilder leading the construction of the new Type 31 frigate for the Royal Navy says it is already pursuing five live campaigns to secure exports for the general-purpose warship.
Greece, Indonesia and Poland are currently the front-runners among the five live campaigns being chased by the British, David Lockwood, Babcock International’s chief executive, told the parliamentary Defence Committee on June 29.
Lockwood said the Type 31 was a “serious contender” for the Greek frigate requirement.
The executive was part a team of high-ranking British officials and industry executives recently in Greece for presentations to the government on the Type 31.
The Babcock boss named the potential export customers in response to lawmakers expressing doubts that the warship will achieve the hoped-for success in the marketplace amid competition from France, Italy and South Korea.


A little over a week ago, Babcock announced it had signed a tripartite memorandum of implementation with the Ukrainian and British governments to revitalize the eastern European nation’s Navy and shipbuilding industry. The need for a new frigate was among the requirements mentioned by Babcock as being part of discussions, although the Type 31 was not specifically mentioned.
Britain originally referred to the ship as the Type 31e, with the “e” standing for “export,” but that suffix was recently dropped.
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The ship’s export opportunities emerged as the Defence Committee held one of several planned evidence sessions on naval procurement ahead of the government’s publication of a much-awaited refresh of its national shipbuilding strategy, announced in 2017.
A Babcock-led team secured a contract from the British Ministry of Defence in 2019 to build five Type 31 frigates at an average cost of £250 million (U.S. $347 million) at its Rosyth yard in Scotland. The warship recently completed it’s whole ship critical design review and is on track to be handed over to the Royal Navy in 2025.
Known as the Arrowhead 140, it is based on the Danish-designed Iver Huitfeldt-class frigate and is set to partially replace the aging Type 23 frigate fleet.


The first three of eight Type 26 anti-submarine warfare frigates are under construction at BAE Systems to replace the remainder of the Type 23 fleet.

Babcock reveals export opportunities for Type 31 frigate

The British shipbuilder leading the construction of the new Type 31 frigate for the Royal Navy says it is already pursuing five live campaigns to secure exports for the general-purpose warship.

www.defensenews.com

So there is another Frigates projects running in Indonesia at this time beside those FREMM and Iver Huitveld class?

 

[wekiweko]

perhaps what they refer to is something similar to U-209 PN or Tridente class

 

[trishna_amrta]

Babcock reveals export opportunities for Type 31 frigate​

So there is another Frigates projects running in Indonesia at this time beside those FREMM and Iver Huitveld class?

I believe they were referring (at least in context) to the 2 mutant Iver Huitveld class project, or they intend to compete with the Mogami class. While for context they were referring to their competition against FREMM

 

[trishna_amrta]

Why they need to shorten lead time anyway?
MoD give them tight schedule?
That's dangerous.

Subianto need something tangible enough for public to see. It's all about politic. The amount of funding is just too big for public (read : clickbait medias) to comprehend, thus he needs something tangible enough as a form of accountability.

 

[Madokafc]

I believe they were referring (at least in context) to the 2 mutant Iver Huitveld class project, or they intend to compete with the Mogami class. While for context they were referring to their competition against FREMM

Either way, the GREEKS only short listed this choice

Greece Short-lists at least 6 Offers for Hellenic Navy Frigate Program - Naval News

On June 5, a meeting chaired by Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis on the procedures for evaluating proposals for the acquisition of new frigates revealed that the Spanish shipbuilder Navantia and its offer had not been selected.

www.navalnews.com

And Poland seriously considering the Italian offer

Italian commitment on the "Miecznik” program [INTERVIEW]

The Leonardo and Fincantieri companies are planning to propose to the Polish Navy their new PPA (multifunctional patrol vessel), which according to the Italian companies meets the requirements set for the coastal defense ship set out in the "Miecznik” program. Details on this unit were presented...

www.defence24.com

But i don't see any South Korean offer though, unless it was Indonesian Navy upcoming Frigates programme, in which i know the Mogami class is in head to head battle with Babcock, and one South Korean shipbuilder and France Naval Group

 

[Umigami]

tangible enough for public to see.

something tangible enough as a form of accountability.

Pretorian Sub is out of question then.

 

[NEKO]

Babcock International’s chief executive, told the parliamentary Defence Committee on June 29.

If they lose this contract, maybe this guy will get "ospek" by the parliamentary, just like the French.

So there is another Frigates projects running in Indonesia at this time beside those FREMM and Iver Huitveld class?

Our IH is this arrowhead right?

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1410137165607038980

 

[Madokafc]

If they lose this contract, maybe this guy will get "ospek" by the parliamentary, just like the French.

Our IH is this arrowhead right?

Not, we are getting contract with Odense for variant of Iver Huitveld not with the Babcock of type 31, but Babcock would be there as assisten of the projects.

 

[FPXAllen]

or they intend to compete with the Mogami class.

This.

I'm biased here, but I still believe Japanese offer is still more beneficial for us in the long run.

 

[NEKO]

Japanese offer

Their offer may be good but how about the ship itself(Jp vs Yurop). About its capabilities and missions that we want, which one is more suitable?