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The welding is not smooth and quite rugged. Quality control seems not that good. BTR 50 had more quality control compared to this one

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For VLS system, the other alternative is Sylver VLS

As for the missile itself, the alternative in the same weight class of the ESSM are the 🇫🇷VL MICA NG, the 🇮🇹CAMM-ER, and of course the 🇫🇷🇮🇹Aster-15. While for heavier weight class, there is the 🇺🇸SM-6 which can potentially be use to defend against hypersonic weapon during their terminal phase, and the 🇫🇷🇮🇹Aster-30 which offer similar if not better performance to that of the SM-6.

Forget about integrating anything that came from 🇰🇷 on 🇯🇵 design / build vessel. Such things could end up in a very bloody affair.
but would it be a problem knowing that Iver Huitfeldt is using Mk series??
if it does, it's kinda difficult to have 2 type of ships designed with Mk series and modify them to Sylver OR simply having 2 systems in the fleet
 

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but would it be a problem knowing that Iver Huitfeldt is using Mk series??
if it does, it's kinda difficult to have 2 type of ships designed with Mk series and modify them to Sylver OR simply having 2 systems in the fleet
Ideally, it will need to designed from the start (before construction) for the specific weapon that is intended to use. But if that can't be done, then there will be a need to make adjustment later on, which will require more budget.
 

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The more reasonably choice for our Itver Huitveld class is using Babcock type 31 solution, they are already in the place and Pipeline production process.
 

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Two of the new 57 Mk3 systems will be for two KCR-60 vessels currently under construction, while the remaining two guns will be integrated onto two existing KCR-60 ships. The gun systems will be produced at BAE Systems facilities in Karlskoga, Sweden. The first unit is scheduled for delivery in 2020 and the final unit in 2021.


Any info about this? KRI Kerambit still don't have main gun.
 

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Two of the new 57 Mk3 systems will be for two KCR-60 vessels currently under construction, while the remaining two guns will be integrated onto two existing KCR-60 ships. The gun systems will be produced at BAE Systems facilities in Karlskoga, Sweden. The first unit is scheduled for delivery in 2020 and the final unit in 2021.


Any info about this? KRI Kerambit still don't have main gun.

Delay caused by Covid19
 

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Japanese defense firms prosper amid futuristic tech orders, export drives​

By: Mike Yeo   July 12
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An artist's rendering of Japan's planned fighter jet, which is to be built in-country. (Illustration: Jacki Belker/Staff; Photos: Japanese Defense Ministry and Mike_Pellinni/Getty Images)​


MELBOURNE, Australia — Japan is continuing to push its defense-industrial base to grow as the country slowly builds up its self-defense forces to counter China’s growing military.
This year’s Defense News Top 100 list, which ranks the largest defense companies in the world, is host to three Japanese firms, including Subaru Corporation (85th place with $805.5 million in defense revenue), which did not make the previous year’s list.
Other Japanese companies include Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, or MHI, (32nd with $3.788 billion in defense revenue) and Kawasaki Heavy Industries (51st with $2.026 billion in defense revenue). KHI made a return to the list after dropping out of the previous year’s version.
See the 2021 Top 100 list here!
MHI has retained a clear lead as the biggest Japanese defense contractor, despite its defense revenue falling 42 percent, having made $6.57 billion in defense revenue the previous year. However, the global automotive conglomerate brought in $31.465 billion in total revenue.

The company is also collaborating on hypersonic technology research — for both a hypersonic cruise missile and a hypervelocity gliding projectile — with the government’s Acquisition, Technology and Logistics Agency.
Fighter jet, loyal wingman
The biggest ongoing Japanese defense program is the stealthy F-X fighter the government plans to use as the replacement for its approximately 90-strong fleet of Mitsubishi F-2 fighters. Japan awarded the F-X development contract to MHI in 2020, and has been steadily budgeting for the development program over the past few years.
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This included $685.5 million for the overall F-X program; $520 million of that was earmarked for the conceptual and initial engine designs. Funding was also made available to continue research and development of radar technology and mission systems integration for the next-generation fighter.
Japan plans for the production of the first F-X prototype to begin in 2024, with flight tests earmarked to start in 2028 following finalization of the design and production plans. The new fighter is expected to enter service with the Japan Air Self-Defense Force starting around 2035.
The new fighter will be accompanied into service by a “loyal wingman” — an autonomous unmanned aircraft. Japanese newspaper Sankei Shimbun reported in October last year that Japan would begin development of a small-scale test bed this year, with flight testing to validate the technology planned for 2024 and full-scale development beginning as early as 2025, if previous phases are successful.

The Japanese “loyal wingman is expected to be fitted to operate in a manned-unmanned teaming setup with the F-X, carrying a sensor payload that allows it to scout for the F-X and is also capable of carrying air-to-air missiles for air combat,” Sankei Shimbun reported.
Japanese media outlet Nikkei followed up with a report in December that said the development program has three stages: The unmanned aircraft will first be controlled from a ground station typical of current systems. It will then evolve into manned-unmanned teaming with a single manned F-X directing several unmanned aircraft, and then it will eventually become a fully autonomous system.
Subaru Corporation (formerly known as Fuji Heavy Industries) is tasked with developing the remote flight control systems, while MHI is in charge of developing a data link for use between unmanned and manned aircraft.
Aegis ship
Japan’s decision to cancel the planned acquisition and installation of the Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense system meant it had to quickly seek an alternative to counter the threat of ballistic missiles from North Korea and China. The cancellation was officially blamed on difficulties in developing a safe way for the booster of the SM-3 Block IIA interceptor to separate from the missile without risking the chance that debris would fall onto civilians and local infrastructure.


Members of the Japanese Diet visited the Aegis Ashore site in Romania in mid-2018. (MC1 Jeremy Starr/U.S. Navy)
Members of the Japanese Diet visited the Aegis Ashore site in Romania in mid-2018. (MC1 Jeremy Starr/U.S. Navy)
What the government didn’t highlight is that the deployment of two Aegis Ashore systems was opposed by residents living near the planned locations over safety concerns. It quickly became apparent to officials that the same kind of opposition would manifest regardless of where any systems were to be based.
Japan has since decided to order ships dedicated to the ballistic missile defense mission. The final design of the ships have not been announced, but it’s been reported the government is considering equipping the ships to use the J7.B Aegis system. J7.B is a combination of the SPY-7 solid-state radar selected for Japan’s Aegis Ashore system and the Japanese J7 baseline that is equivalent to the U.S. Baseline 9 Aegis system.
The idea of equipping the ships with the SM-6 missile to enable them to engage hypersonic weapons and cruise missiles has gained traction as China begins to field increasing numbers of both types of weapons.
Given the ships’ dedicated ballistic missile defense mission, it has also been envisaged that they will be deployed close inshore and thus will not need the kind of performance or weaponry found on Japan’s Aegis destroyers, which are also assigned to the fleet defense mission, among other maritime combat roles.
Mogami export

Japan is also continuing low-key efforts to export defense equipment, following its first successful arms export deal since restrictive defense export laws were relaxed by then-Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in 2014. The move was made to broaden Japan’s defense-industrial base and make it more sustainable.
The Japanese warship Kumano is part of the Mogami class. (Japanese Defense Ministry)
The Japanese warship Kumano is part of the Mogami class. (Japanese Defense Ministry)
That export deal, signed in August 2020, was for fixed and mobile air defense radars to the Philippines. Now Japan is targeting Indonesia’s requirement for frigates, for which it is offering the Mogami-class multirole frigate under a proposal that will see four of eight frigates for Indonesia built at shipyards in the latter country.
The Mogami class is a 3,900-ton design being built for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force. Three ships were already launched, and there are plans for five more. The 130-meter-long frigates are designed for missions ranging from mine countermeasures, surface and subsurface warfare, and they can deploy unmanned surface and underwater vehicles.
Indonesia recently announced it will acquire the Italian FREMM frigate from Fincantieri, but it’s unclear if Indonesia would buy the Mogami class under a different program since the Japanese ships are vastly different in size and capabilities from the Italian design.

 

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Japanese defense firms prosper amid futuristic tech orders, export drives​

By: Mike Yeo   July 12
19

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An artist's rendering of Japan's planned fighter jet, which is to be built in-country. (Illustration: Jacki Belker/Staff; Photos: Japanese Defense Ministry and Mike_Pellinni/Getty Images)​


MELBOURNE, Australia — Japan is continuing to push its defense-industrial base to grow as the country slowly builds up its self-defense forces to counter China’s growing military.
This year’s Defense News Top 100 list, which ranks the largest defense companies in the world, is host to three Japanese firms, including Subaru Corporation (85th place with $805.5 million in defense revenue), which did not make the previous year’s list.
Other Japanese companies include Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, or MHI, (32nd with $3.788 billion in defense revenue) and Kawasaki Heavy Industries (51st with $2.026 billion in defense revenue). KHI made a return to the list after dropping out of the previous year’s version.
See the 2021 Top 100 list here!
MHI has retained a clear lead as the biggest Japanese defense contractor, despite its defense revenue falling 42 percent, having made $6.57 billion in defense revenue the previous year. However, the global automotive conglomerate brought in $31.465 billion in total revenue.

The company is also collaborating on hypersonic technology research — for both a hypersonic cruise missile and a hypervelocity gliding projectile — with the government’s Acquisition, Technology and Logistics Agency.
Fighter jet, loyal wingman
The biggest ongoing Japanese defense program is the stealthy F-X fighter the government plans to use as the replacement for its approximately 90-strong fleet of Mitsubishi F-2 fighters. Japan awarded the F-X development contract to MHI in 2020, and has been steadily budgeting for the development program over the past few years.
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This included $685.5 million for the overall F-X program; $520 million of that was earmarked for the conceptual and initial engine designs. Funding was also made available to continue research and development of radar technology and mission systems integration for the next-generation fighter.
Japan plans for the production of the first F-X prototype to begin in 2024, with flight tests earmarked to start in 2028 following finalization of the design and production plans. The new fighter is expected to enter service with the Japan Air Self-Defense Force starting around 2035.
The new fighter will be accompanied into service by a “loyal wingman” — an autonomous unmanned aircraft. Japanese newspaper Sankei Shimbun reported in October last year that Japan would begin development of a small-scale test bed this year, with flight testing to validate the technology planned for 2024 and full-scale development beginning as early as 2025, if previous phases are successful.

The Japanese “loyal wingman is expected to be fitted to operate in a manned-unmanned teaming setup with the F-X, carrying a sensor payload that allows it to scout for the F-X and is also capable of carrying air-to-air missiles for air combat,” Sankei Shimbun reported.
Japanese media outlet Nikkei followed up with a report in December that said the development program has three stages: The unmanned aircraft will first be controlled from a ground station typical of current systems. It will then evolve into manned-unmanned teaming with a single manned F-X directing several unmanned aircraft, and then it will eventually become a fully autonomous system.
Subaru Corporation (formerly known as Fuji Heavy Industries) is tasked with developing the remote flight control systems, while MHI is in charge of developing a data link for use between unmanned and manned aircraft.
Aegis ship
Japan’s decision to cancel the planned acquisition and installation of the Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense system meant it had to quickly seek an alternative to counter the threat of ballistic missiles from North Korea and China. The cancellation was officially blamed on difficulties in developing a safe way for the booster of the SM-3 Block IIA interceptor to separate from the missile without risking the chance that debris would fall onto civilians and local infrastructure.


Members of the Japanese Diet visited the Aegis Ashore site in Romania in mid-2018. (MC1 Jeremy Starr/U.S. Navy)
Members of the Japanese Diet visited the Aegis Ashore site in Romania in mid-2018. (MC1 Jeremy Starr/U.S. Navy)
What the government didn’t highlight is that the deployment of two Aegis Ashore systems was opposed by residents living near the planned locations over safety concerns. It quickly became apparent to officials that the same kind of opposition would manifest regardless of where any systems were to be based.
Japan has since decided to order ships dedicated to the ballistic missile defense mission. The final design of the ships have not been announced, but it’s been reported the government is considering equipping the ships to use the J7.B Aegis system. J7.B is a combination of the SPY-7 solid-state radar selected for Japan’s Aegis Ashore system and the Japanese J7 baseline that is equivalent to the U.S. Baseline 9 Aegis system.
The idea of equipping the ships with the SM-6 missile to enable them to engage hypersonic weapons and cruise missiles has gained traction as China begins to field increasing numbers of both types of weapons.
Given the ships’ dedicated ballistic missile defense mission, it has also been envisaged that they will be deployed close inshore and thus will not need the kind of performance or weaponry found on Japan’s Aegis destroyers, which are also assigned to the fleet defense mission, among other maritime combat roles.
Mogami export

Japan is also continuing low-key efforts to export defense equipment, following its first successful arms export deal since restrictive defense export laws were relaxed by then-Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in 2014. The move was made to broaden Japan’s defense-industrial base and make it more sustainable.
The Japanese warship Kumano is part of the Mogami class. (Japanese Defense Ministry)
The Japanese warship Kumano is part of the Mogami class. (Japanese Defense Ministry)
That export deal, signed in August 2020, was for fixed and mobile air defense radars to the Philippines. Now Japan is targeting Indonesia’s requirement for frigates, for which it is offering the Mogami-class multirole frigate under a proposal that will see four of eight frigates for Indonesia built at shipyards in the latter country.
The Mogami class is a 3,900-ton design being built for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force. Three ships were already launched, and there are plans for five more. The 130-meter-long frigates are designed for missions ranging from mine countermeasures, surface and subsurface warfare, and they can deploy unmanned surface and underwater vehicles.
Indonesia recently announced it will acquire the Italian FREMM frigate from Fincantieri, but it’s unclear if Indonesia would buy the Mogami class under a different program since the Japanese ships are vastly different in size and capabilities from the Italian design.

Their FX project is kinda interesting to join, a heavy-weight long range (air superiority fighter was it?), if somehow their progress get delayed and KFX is finished maybe we can consider to join if JP allows, if we starting to develop our own jet fighter after KFX/IFX its too challenging, by joining other we can learn what we can't during KFX/IFX project. Not necessary only JP FX tho, others is also okay*.
 

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Their FX project is kinda interesting to join, a heavy-weight long range (air superiority fighter was it?), if somehow their progress get delayed and KFX is finished maybe we can consider to join if JP allows, if we starting to develop our own jet fighter after KFX/IFX its too challenging, by joining other we can learn what we can't during KFX/IFX project. Not necessary only JP FX tho, others is also okay*.

For Naval projects, beside Submarine, Frigates and Destroyer Japan can offer their Shore based AShM system. They already mature technology in Japan as Japan use them to deter Soviet invasion
 

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Btw interesting

57-mm А-220М NAVAL ARTILLERY SYSTEM:​
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This 57-mm automatic rapid-fire naval gun is an upgraded version of А-220 naval gun. It has successfully passed extended trials and is recommended for service introduction.
А-220М is a multipurpose system designed to engage air, surface and coastal targets. It may be installed on surface ships with the displacement of 250 ton and more such as missile boats of 205/ 20970 projects and others.​
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Main technical data

Rate of fire, rpm​
300​
Maximum firing range, km
- vertical
- horizontal​

up to 8
up to 12​
Elevation, degree​
-10 to +85
Training, degree​
±180
Number of ready-to-fire rounds​
400​
Weight, t​
6​
Dimensions, mm
- line-of-fire height above balancing ring
- turning radius at zero elevation
- gun height above deck (above balancing ring plane)
- deck hole diameter for gun installation (barbette inner diameter)
- the height of under deck compartment (for gun installation)​

1025
4270
1795
3000
3060​
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The gun operates at the ambient temperature from -40° С to +50° С provided the ship's speed is below 45 knots.
The naval gun consists of:
- an automatic gun unit comprising a barrel and a breech with a wedge breechblock and a cradle. Integrated with the cradle, there are a cross-feed mechanism, a rammer, a trigger, an empty case extractor, recoil and counterrecoil brakes and a barrel-cooling system;
- a carriage with an artillery unit, an ammunition feed mechanism and quick electrohydraulic actuators with gun laying systems and hydraulics;
- a magazine with a double-lead screw for ammunition storage and feed. The magazine is attached to the collector in the bottom part of the carriage;
- a cupola made of aluminium alloy;
- a fire control panel interfacing the artillery mount with any fire control system that provides total laying angles;
- an automatic command and control system.
А-220М gun fires case ammunitions developed for S-60 with 53-UOR-281U HE projectiles.
There are 400 rounds in the magazine; the rest munitions can be stored in special racks under the deck. The munitions are fed from the magazine by the feed screw through a transferring mechanism to the collector connected with the vertical elevator. From the elevator receiver the munitions are transferred to the harp transporter of the gun unit. Coming to the last position on the transporter, the ammunition descends to the ramming line. Then the round is rammed and fired.
The feeding mechanisms of the gun oscillating mass are recoil-operated. The transfer of rounds from the magazine to the oscillating mass receiver is power-driven. Empty cases are ejected into the gun under-turret area. Ammunitions are reloaded to the magazine between firing activities.
The gun's Automatic Command and Control System provides the means of control required for the gun preparation for combat operation and firing as well as continuous diagnostics of the gun system and status data transferring. It also allows the operators training without activating the main gun mechanisms.
The power is supplied to the gun from the ship's electric system:
- power equipment – 3-phase, 380 V, 50 Hz;
- switching, alarm and fire circuits – 27 V DC.
Consumed power = 14 kW. The cooling system uses sea water under pressure 5.5 – 8.0 kgf/cm², the flow-rate = 5.3 ltr/s.
At Customer request, Burevestnik JSC can manufacture and customize А-220М artillery mount for installation on various ships. We also offer А-220М modification for air defense facilities.​

 

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The more reasonably choice for our Itver Huitveld class is using Babcock type 31 solution, they are already in the place and Pipeline production process.

I read somewhere that Tacticos CMS is going to be used in our Iver's design, might as well chose Type 31 variation since it's already on going (hope that Terma won't be mad about this choice lol)
 

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For Naval projects, beside Submarine, Frigates and Destroyer Japan can offer their Shore based AShM system. They already mature technology in Japan as Japan use them to deter Soviet invasion
Is it possible? While they can offer their frigate using "joint production" as an excuse but selling missile system would be tricky.
 

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Is it possible? While they can offer their frigate using "joint production" as an excuse but selling missile system would be tricky.

Should be possible, why not

We are already asking motor propulsion technology (rocket) assistance from them

Coupled them with Japanese technology on optronic system and state of art radar guide system
 

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Japanese defense firms prosper amid futuristic tech orders, export drives​

By: Mike Yeo   July 12
19

FENRILSFQ5F7VIOMHNUSRBZ4CI.jpg

An artist's rendering of Japan's planned fighter jet, which is to be built in-country. (Illustration: Jacki Belker/Staff; Photos: Japanese Defense Ministry and Mike_Pellinni/Getty Images)​


MELBOURNE, Australia — Japan is continuing to push its defense-industrial base to grow as the country slowly builds up its self-defense forces to counter China’s growing military.
This year’s Defense News Top 100 list, which ranks the largest defense companies in the world, is host to three Japanese firms, including Subaru Corporation (85th place with $805.5 million in defense revenue), which did not make the previous year’s list.
Other Japanese companies include Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, or MHI, (32nd with $3.788 billion in defense revenue) and Kawasaki Heavy Industries (51st with $2.026 billion in defense revenue). KHI made a return to the list after dropping out of the previous year’s version.
See the 2021 Top 100 list here!
MHI has retained a clear lead as the biggest Japanese defense contractor, despite its defense revenue falling 42 percent, having made $6.57 billion in defense revenue the previous year. However, the global automotive conglomerate brought in $31.465 billion in total revenue.

The company is also collaborating on hypersonic technology research — for both a hypersonic cruise missile and a hypervelocity gliding projectile — with the government’s Acquisition, Technology and Logistics Agency.
Fighter jet, loyal wingman
The biggest ongoing Japanese defense program is the stealthy F-X fighter the government plans to use as the replacement for its approximately 90-strong fleet of Mitsubishi F-2 fighters. Japan awarded the F-X development contract to MHI in 2020, and has been steadily budgeting for the development program over the past few years.
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This included $685.5 million for the overall F-X program; $520 million of that was earmarked for the conceptual and initial engine designs. Funding was also made available to continue research and development of radar technology and mission systems integration for the next-generation fighter.
Japan plans for the production of the first F-X prototype to begin in 2024, with flight tests earmarked to start in 2028 following finalization of the design and production plans. The new fighter is expected to enter service with the Japan Air Self-Defense Force starting around 2035.
The new fighter will be accompanied into service by a “loyal wingman” — an autonomous unmanned aircraft. Japanese newspaper Sankei Shimbun reported in October last year that Japan would begin development of a small-scale test bed this year, with flight testing to validate the technology planned for 2024 and full-scale development beginning as early as 2025, if previous phases are successful.

The Japanese “loyal wingman is expected to be fitted to operate in a manned-unmanned teaming setup with the F-X, carrying a sensor payload that allows it to scout for the F-X and is also capable of carrying air-to-air missiles for air combat,” Sankei Shimbun reported.
Japanese media outlet Nikkei followed up with a report in December that said the development program has three stages: The unmanned aircraft will first be controlled from a ground station typical of current systems. It will then evolve into manned-unmanned teaming with a single manned F-X directing several unmanned aircraft, and then it will eventually become a fully autonomous system.
Subaru Corporation (formerly known as Fuji Heavy Industries) is tasked with developing the remote flight control systems, while MHI is in charge of developing a data link for use between unmanned and manned aircraft.
Aegis ship
Japan’s decision to cancel the planned acquisition and installation of the Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense system meant it had to quickly seek an alternative to counter the threat of ballistic missiles from North Korea and China. The cancellation was officially blamed on difficulties in developing a safe way for the booster of the SM-3 Block IIA interceptor to separate from the missile without risking the chance that debris would fall onto civilians and local infrastructure.


Members of the Japanese Diet visited the Aegis Ashore site in Romania in mid-2018. (MC1 Jeremy Starr/U.S. Navy)
Members of the Japanese Diet visited the Aegis Ashore site in Romania in mid-2018. (MC1 Jeremy Starr/U.S. Navy)
What the government didn’t highlight is that the deployment of two Aegis Ashore systems was opposed by residents living near the planned locations over safety concerns. It quickly became apparent to officials that the same kind of opposition would manifest regardless of where any systems were to be based.
Japan has since decided to order ships dedicated to the ballistic missile defense mission. The final design of the ships have not been announced, but it’s been reported the government is considering equipping the ships to use the J7.B Aegis system. J7.B is a combination of the SPY-7 solid-state radar selected for Japan’s Aegis Ashore system and the Japanese J7 baseline that is equivalent to the U.S. Baseline 9 Aegis system.
The idea of equipping the ships with the SM-6 missile to enable them to engage hypersonic weapons and cruise missiles has gained traction as China begins to field increasing numbers of both types of weapons.
Given the ships’ dedicated ballistic missile defense mission, it has also been envisaged that they will be deployed close inshore and thus will not need the kind of performance or weaponry found on Japan’s Aegis destroyers, which are also assigned to the fleet defense mission, among other maritime combat roles.
Mogami export

Japan is also continuing low-key efforts to export defense equipment, following its first successful arms export deal since restrictive defense export laws were relaxed by then-Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in 2014. The move was made to broaden Japan’s defense-industrial base and make it more sustainable.
The Japanese warship Kumano is part of the Mogami class. (Japanese Defense Ministry)
The Japanese warship Kumano is part of the Mogami class. (Japanese Defense Ministry)
That export deal, signed in August 2020, was for fixed and mobile air defense radars to the Philippines. Now Japan is targeting Indonesia’s requirement for frigates, for which it is offering the Mogami-class multirole frigate under a proposal that will see four of eight frigates for Indonesia built at shipyards in the latter country.
The Mogami class is a 3,900-ton design being built for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force. Three ships were already launched, and there are plans for five more. The 130-meter-long frigates are designed for missions ranging from mine countermeasures, surface and subsurface warfare, and they can deploy unmanned surface and underwater vehicles.
Indonesia recently announced it will acquire the Italian FREMM frigate from Fincantieri, but it’s unclear if Indonesia would buy the Mogami class under a different program since the Japanese ships are vastly different in size and capabilities from the Italian design.

In the future, it's best to sticking to 🇯🇵 for our defence assets requirement. Not only both countries has already well familiar to one another, our cultural custom practice are also similar, thus making it far easier to talk to another without risking miss interpretation. Furthermore, 🇯🇵 is a quasi nuclear power, which mean they could turn with their own nuclear arsenal literally overnight (under 24 hours), not to mention they have mature advance industrial capability
 

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In the future, it's best to sticking to 🇯🇵 for our defence assets requirement. Not only both countries has already well familiar to one another, our cultural custom practice are also similar, thus making it far easier to talk to another without risking miss interpretation. Furthermore, 🇯🇵 is a quasi nuclear power, which mean they could turn with their own nuclear arsenal literally overnight (under 24 hours), not to mention they have mature advance industrial capability
Also both in grassroots and govt level JP have good impression here, along with SK.
Should be possible, why not

We are already asking motor propulsion technology (rocket) assistance from them

Coupled them with Japanese technology on optronic system and state of art radar guide system
Oh still in asking phase, I wish for the best.
 

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Both in grassroots and govt level JP have good impression here, along with SK.

Oh still in asking phase, I wish for the best.

You know lah, asking, negotiation, provide funds especially the later part is difficult ones
 

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