Live Conflict Iran-Israel Conflict (2025)

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IMHO, there will be a false flag in the US. Let's see what Mossad and the US deep state cook.

It seems that without the US, Israel can't reach deep underground facilities. Even if Israel bombs Iran to the Stone Age, Iran is a big country and will endure. Since Israel is a small country, a missile that falls down is equal to 10-20 bombs that fall on İranian soil. If this goes on, Netanyahu might be forced to resign under pressure if Iran has enough missiles that can reach Israel, and the ability to continue the war for


Even if America joined their could be so much damage to Iranian infrastructure but I don't believe they could annihilate them, Iran has read American, Isrealis well for last 20 years, the facilities wouldn't be a prey to so called bunker busters, no Arab American poodles would allow American bases to be used from their country because Iran can destroy thier oil wells, and so much damage to the regimes that run as American puppets, would be facing a regime change themselves, and if America brings in their aircraft carriers they would risk being sinked or destroyed. Their would be severe economic upheavals with disruption of oil, gas other resources in the world with disruption of oil, gas maritime transport etc. China depends on Iran for most of its energy, so there is a big chance china would atleast indirectly help Iran will not like it to be annihilated like Iraq, and the gulf countries have been waging a war with Houthis for eight years with with American technology but couldn't succeed. And the Americans got a heavy beating by Teleban at the end had to abandoned about eight billion dollars of war equipments, we know what's going on in Ukraine. So the hegomony of the west is changing, people out of Europe coming to know their double standards and fake humanitarian stands, democracy, autocratic rule and all are regime change and install puppets plunder their resources and keep the white man as superior, and enslave the poor countries like in Africa, well Isreal has helped to reveal the true colours if America nd Europe.
 

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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

About 1 to 1.5 months ago, the Indian media used this image to claim that Turkish Air Force jets were assisting the Pakistan Air Force.
It is a pretty nice photo.

Pakistan did help us immensely after the 2016 coup attempt to retrain pilots, especially as instructors after US shafted us again by denying our requests to provide instructors and take in Turkish pilots, saying their own pilot shortage was worse and didn't have any openings.

All these photos and claims are stemming from that; like Greek friends claiming Pakistani pilots were being used over at Aegean. Those times are behind us now.
 

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If Iran has nuclear weapons, it would be the greatest gift Turkey could ever receive. It could use this argument and the resulting shift in power in the Middle East to officially launch a nuclear program and even justify it logically. This is what the Americans and Israelis fear most, as it would deprive them of their ability to act in the Middle East in the long term. Those who possess nuclear weapons can create facts even against countries like the US and Israel, and both sides know it.

"argument" Russia threatened to nuke us, Isreal is against, India is against us, France made a separate military with alliance with greece against us, another nuclear power. The USA were threatening erdogan with war not to enter Syria against the PKK. We got plenty of arguments why we need it.

You see power doesn't work like this, you are threatened and intimidated not to have it. Either economically, politically or militarily. Your enemy isn't stupid, that's why they are the global power houses and were threatened not too move two inches across our border to destroy marxist terrorists.

But i would argue this brazen attack on Iran by the crusader coalition on "Friday the 13th" is the major reason why we need them. We can't wait for these crusader demons to come for us, we must have the means to deter them.

On a side note its interesting how a few deaths on the isreali side gets them rattled. In that sense their opposite to the Russians. Russians can lose millions and no one gives a shit. The isrealis lose 10 or 20 and the panic sets in.
 

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Even shahed drones hit their targets now....

Its definitely interesting to see the limitations of Isreali air power against a big nation like Iran. Truth be told the Isrealis would have to continue this bombing for many years against Iran for it to have any real effect in curtailing Iran.

If this drags out for an extended period of time and the isrealis deplete their american supplied stocks, its time for the Turkish military to move into those syrian bases.
 

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"argument" Russia threatened to nuke us, Isreal is against, India is against us, France made a separate military with alliance with greece against us, another nuclear power. The USA were threatening erdogan with war not to enter Syria against the PKK. We got plenty of arguments why we need it.

You see power doesn't work like this, you are threatened and intimidated not to have it. Either economically, politically or militarily. Your enemy isn't stupid, that's why they are the global power houses and were threatened not too move two inches across our border to destroy marxist terrorists.

But i would argue this brazen attack on Iran by the crusader coalition on "Friday the 13th" is the major reason why we need them. We can't wait for these crusader demons to come for us, we must have the means to deter them.

On a side note its interesting how a few deaths on the isreali side gets them rattled. In that sense their opposite to the Russians. Russians can lose millions and no one gives a shit. The isrealis lose 10 or 20 and the panic sets in.

How many nuclear warheads are necessary for minimum deterrence?
 

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It is very unfortunate to state that Istanbul and Teheran share the same destiny. It is naive to expect an islamic union. We will lose big time if we side even rhetorically with Iran. Iran has been a biggest hindrance to us reaching out to central asia. Both geopolitically and historically much bigger enemy. We should even offer to US and Israel help in destroying once and for all Iran in return for south azerbagchan and other priviliges. If we continue with islamic rhetoric and threaten Israel we will certainly be the next in the agenda. Imagine Israel together with Greece attacking us suddenly with the same story that if Turkey produces Kaan that will pave the way for the path to nuclear bomb. And they will say look your ruling party views Israel the same way as Iran. For Greece and Israel together it will only be marginally more difficult for them compared to Iran. But once they tasted the blood, they will come for more. So we should only talk if we are able to cope with the two together.
 

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