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same old same old.

do a stupid attack that achieves nothing strategic, invite Isreal to flood in and crush you with their superior military. Then spend months spreading all the death and destruction caused by it. Rinse and repeat.
 

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Israel is effectively driving the Gazan population south to the Egyptian border, and Egypt is passively awaiting their fate, to accept the fait accompli of 2.5 million Gazan refugees when they arrive, because whatever resistance Egypt has mounted verbally against Israel and the West will mean nothing when that population is trapped in that short strip of land. The economic situation in Egypt is forcing them into this humiliating position. It's so sad to see; This is why economy is the first and the last line of defense in 21st globalized world.

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The repeated attacks in Bab Al Mandeb could serve as a study case on the limit of the modern navy's ability to protect shipping. Like it or not, the main tasks of a navy is always the securing of sea lanes. But modern shipbuilding and navy design tends to forget this. Ships are getting bigger, more powerful but the number of hulls Navy could afford has been steadily dwindling.

You could have a fleet of state-of-the-art destroyers with the latest in sensors and equipment, but if there are only 3 of them, not much can be done to protect shipping.

Back during the "first happy times", German U-Boats would sink a grand total of 280+ ships totaling 1490000 tons in a span 5 months, considering the ballooning size of modern container ships, and considering just how fast modern ISR can detect and track objects and also considering how deadly and accuarte a modern weapon can be, those numbers could be achieved with way less ship and in a lot less time. A Modern ULCS class ship is around 235000 tons in weight, which means the combined weight of just around 6 of these:

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Will be enough to match the numbers of German U-Boat commanders strived to achieve with great difficulties in WW2 during the first happy times. Because back then Germany doesn't have access to MarineTraffic.com cargo ships tended to be this size:

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Iran (or any actor that wish harm to shipping) could easily supply tons of anti-ship missile/torpedo/USV to actors like Houthis and tell them to wreak havoc.

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A hit from one or two Mk-48 class Torpedo is enough to break the keel of even the largest container ship, potentially sinking it or if not damaging it beyond repair. A hit from a missile meanwhile could burn the ship and its cargo


The solutions to this is of course the reintroducing of 21st century convoy system, but Western shipbuilding aren't up to the job and their navy doesn't prioritize guard ships anymore. The Arleigh Burkes for example now is more a missile defense ship than an escort ship.

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This makes the West now ironically emulating what the Japanese did before WW2, prioritizing heavily armed ships while underestimating the role of smaller guard ships.

 
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its obvious that after Gaza is taken the next stage for the Isrealis will be to ethnically cleanse the west bank. Arabs/Persians and Muslim civilisation will ofcourse talk a big game, but they will look on as they look on now. Any fool could see the Hamas attack was suicide, the fools celebrated it, well i've never seen Allah reward stupidity in geopolitics.

and if we go one step further, the Isrealis are going to claim islamic terrorism emanating from neighbouring nations will be the new excuse to invade and annex land of their neighbours. Its a big plan the anglo-american world has for the middle east. Their support for the PKK/Kurdistan is part of these plans.

The balkanisation of the Ottoman state was probably phase one of it.

I suspect with 20 years the Al Aqsa mosque will be destroyed by the Isrealis to make way for building of the temple. An ambition of both Templars whose order today is represented by freemasony and Zionists.

Unless Turks develop their economy and military, no one will stop any of this. Even then can the Turks alone deal with the combined might of the west? I doubt it.
 
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Israel is effectively driving the Gazan population south to the Egyptian border, and Egypt is passively awaiting their fate, to accept the fait accompli of 2.5 million Gazan refugees when they arrive, because whatever resistance Egypt has mounted verbally against Israel and the West will mean nothing when that population is trapped in that short strip of land. The economic situation in Egypt is forcing them into this humiliating position. It's so sad to see; This is why economy is the first and the last line of defense in 21st globalized world.

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Pretty much yes, and Chinese CCP know it better than anyone.

About Gaza, maybe i am wrong but I still don't think USA would allow Israel to escalate that far.

 

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The economic situation in Egypt is forcing them into this humiliating position. It's so sad to see; This is why economy is the first and the last line of defense in 21st globalized world.

And you think if Egypt transforms into the UAE or Switzerland it'll suddenly transform Egypt from mere talking into action? Lmao

The problem is and remains that the wider Muslim world are led by a bunch of lapdogs that share no interest with the people.

There are many instance where less economically fortunate country are respected, because they know how to put their weight, unlike these country you mention who has a fetish of parading their armies and when the time to go into action finally present itself, they become meek.
 

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Oh yes btw despite talks here and there Iran is actually the smartest geopolitical player in the Middle East and the biggest helper of Palestinians and Palestine cause. I argue that they (through their proxies) inflicted a lot more damage than the talks and condemnation of the wider Muslim countries/world

They understand that action>>>>words. Maybe that's why they keep winning .

Not any amount of denial will change that fact.
 

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And you think if Egypt transforms into the UAE or Switzerland it'll suddenly transform Egypt from mere talking into action? Lmao

The problem is and remains that the wider Muslim world are led by a bunch of lapdogs that share no interest with the people.

There are many instance where less economically fortunate country are respected, because they know how to put their weight, unlike these country you mention who has a fetish of parading their armies and when the time to go into action finally present itself, they become meek.
I'm not talking about them defending Palestinians; I'm talking about their inability to defend their own interests.
 

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that'll stop bombs dropping on gaza.

muslims are easy to fool and placate. Its for good reason that the whites not so long ago pretty much conquered the entire muslim world.

When the irainian terrorist got toasted in iraq by trump, the guy whose recording got leaked showing his distain and hate for Turks saying the persians have no history for the last 1000 years because of the Turk. Meaning because we conquered and ruled them, it turned out that trump and the iranians had a talk over it. The iranians said they can't be shown to look passive to it, so the iranians and americans agreed for the persians to launch some missiles at an american base where not even 1 american solider was killed. A cheap stunt to placate and fool their own people.

Gaza is getting absolute ass pounded and the nation that has been screaming zionism for the last 50 years is doing nothing, so like the general they have create these little worthless skirmishes to placate their people. I suspect they had talks with the americans and isrealis prior and they signed off on it. Just like those worthless few rockets from yemen, that do nothing but create an illusion of resistance.

Turks and Muslims with any self respect should stop sharing cheap persian propaganda. I sometimes wonder how many Turkish islamists are really just kurds or arabs, since they don;'t seem to ever give a shit about people that attack the Turks. All this love for a regime that only yesterday would have done everything if they could to have buried are Azeribajani brothers to benefit of armenia and russia.

Also other Muslims who have no real history of fighting the west, don't believe a word they have to say, just what they do. When the Americans took their aircraft carrier to protect and service isreal you got the REAL american message and that message is isreal to them bend them over, destroy them, since with me here no one can touch you.

ill also add these one or two pointless rockets for yemen is zionism planting seeds for the future. No doubts they build a big navy after gaza is resolved. Then maybe direct attempts are made on yemen. Just like the hamas attack opened the doors to isreali expansionism, these pointless attacks from yemen are an argument for the isreali side to utilise when the time is right.
 
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I'm not talking about them defending Palestinians; I'm talking about their inability to defend their own interests.

They dont have the capabilities thats why.

Hence why they improvise do with what they have regardless if its military or diplomatic relations.

Palestinians and Yemenis proved me to how tough they are compared to the other Arabs especially from the Gulf.

These guys have lost everything they are still fighting to survive while Saudi Arabia hosts parties for celebrities.
 
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Sad thing is what happened to the Native Americans and Native Australians is happening to the Palestinians.
 

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