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I see a lot of laughable nationalist rhetoric here LMAO. Palestine and Gaza will not be freed under any of the existing nationalist movement be it Arabs, Turks, Iranian, Moors, Indonesian etc. As if the Arabs nationalist movement of the mid 20th century hadn't taught people anything, nationalist/ethnic based movement and hype towards the liberation of Palestine will eventually died out or even worse (like the case of Egypt) switch side to the zionists.

Am going to be blunt here. None of any nationalist movement will have what it takes to persevere simply because nationalism is an idea built upon the craving of a piece of land/ethnicity, Palestine is not an issue about land and ethnicity but faith and religion. So save us the "the Muslim world will be fine if particular (insert ethnicity) towers upon the other". The two previous rulers who take that land (Umar and Saladin) did so not under the concept of the superiority of nations and nation state, but the superiority of faith.

Had Saladin fought for Kurdish superiority and Kurdish homeland and Kurdish enlightment (lo) in mind. This event would not happen.

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“After three months of secret negotiations between Israel, Indonesia and the leadership of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), it was decided that Jakarta would commit to normalizing relations with Jerusalem.
As a reciprocal gesture, Israel will withdraw its objections to Indonesia's entry into the OECD."

Judging by the latest news, a new Saladin-savior on a white horse will appear from distant Indonesia. They will call him “Garу – the last hope of Muslims all over the world!!!” :LOL: :love::ROFLMAO:
 
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“After three months of secret negotiations between Israel, Indonesia and the leadership of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), it was decided that Jakarta would commit to normalizing relations with Jerusalem.
As a reciprocal gesture, Israel will withdraw its objections to Indonesia's entry into the OECD."

Judging by the latest news, a new Saladin-savior on a white horse will appear from distant Indonesia. They will call him “Garу – the last hope of Muslims all over the world!!!” :LOL: :love::ROFLMAO:

makes sense now why Indonesia was allowed by isreal to drop aid. Show your people you supplying aid, while under the table your actually working to normalise relations. In general its very easy to fool and appease Muslims.

Its a bit like erdogans barking and threats, meanwhile under the counter business was booming. So much so, that it effected his campaign, fortunately since the country is not a dictatorship it means he's been forced do something or he will lose his throne. Had we been a dictatorship, no concerns would have been given. None.

You have to give it to political islamists, they see their voters/supporters as absolute mugs and exploit them for it.
 
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İran:"The attack will be limited not to escalate tension "🤫

any attack will be signed off with the USA/Isreal before it happens. What fascinates me is how this obvious theatre/shit show can keep playing out over and over again without people seeing the con.

Also as the genocide narrative gets too intense, why not target some iranians to change the narrative and focus. Just like the whole narrative for this genocide was Oct 7th, all the evil filth that came before it didnt matter.

the iranian regime in reality is the second isreal of the region. Isreal is portrayed in the world as order while iran plays choas, eventually it will synergise into greater middle east agenda.

Its crazy to think this game has been going on decades now and it fools so many people.
 

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makes sense now why Indonesia was allowed by isreal to drop aid. Show your people you supplying aid, while under the table your actually working to normalise relations. In general its very easy to fool and appease Muslims.

Its a bit like erdogans barking and threats, meanwhile under the counter business was booming. So much so, that it effected his campaign, fortunately since the country is not a dictatorship it means he's been forced do something or he will lose his throne. Had we been a dictatorship, no concerns would have been given. None.

You have to give it to political islamists, they see their voters/supporters as absolute mugs and exploit them for it.
What can Erdogan do alone? During the "Arab revolutions", he appealed to all Muslim countries and proposed the creation of Muslim NATO. None of them made a sound.
If the Arabs cannot unite as a nation, what kind of Muslim unity can we talk about?!
The Ottoman Empire was able to defend the Muslim world for centuries until 100 years ago. But in the First World War, the Arabs were deceived by the British promises of independence and in fact betrayed not only the Ottoman Empire, but the entire Islamic world. Now they have reached the point where they can't even defend themselves, let alone Gaza.
What happened in Gaza is perhaps God's punishment for the Arabs who betrayed the Ottoman Empire.
Even the giant Indonesia was forced to go to secret negotiations with Israel in accordance with its national interests, because it did not trust the Arab states.
At a time when the world is filled with the smell of gunpowder and blood, Türkiye should finally forget all these Arabs and turn its face to the Caucasus and Central Asia - the Turkish world.
 
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would azeri or turkish users here have a more positive view of iran if they really did get into a war with Israel?
 

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Iran will hit some empty buildings, which will be the extent of Iranian retaliation. There are probably negotiations and the US will let Iran put up a pre-agreed show to save face.
 

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There is nothing more head scratching then watching Iran 🇮🇷 posture retaliation, but literally OK'ing it with the people that they're about to attack, out of fear that they'll get their teeth kicked in if they actually in any serious way.

There really is no difference than from when USA sent Qasem Soleimani on a one way trip to Allah and Iran "retaliated" by firing missiles in a direction that was adjacent to a U.S. base... Why?

So they could sell the idea of looking tough in front of their population, when in reality they were absolutely terrified about the retaliation they would incur if they actually struck the American base by surprise and killed personnel in any kind of meaningful quantities.
 

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would azeri or turkish users here have a more positive view of iran if they really did get into a war with Israel?
Why in the hell would Azerbaijanis have a positive view of Iran for fighting Israel? We have good relations with Israel, all we get from Iran is drug smugglers and fundamentalist spies trying to create a second Hezbollah.
 

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There is nothing more head scratching then watching Iran 🇮🇷 posture retaliation, but literally OK'ing it with the people that they're about to attack, out of fear that they'll get their teeth kicked in if they actually in any serious way.

It won't get its teeth kicked in any serious way if we are talking about Israel only. Israel doesn't have the capability to project neccessary
firepower over 1000km away. It would require US to get involved into offensive. Which it won't if US targets are not hit.

Other than that, both parties (Iran & Israel) are trying not to widen the conflict. Iran need to save face and Bibi cannot overplay his hand. And USA is trying coordinate that. Which is very responsible of them.
 

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It won't get its teeth kicked in any serious way if we are talking about Israel only. Israel doesn't have the capability to project neccessary
firepower over 1000km away. It would require US to get involved into offensive. Which it won't if US targets are not hit.

Other than that, both parties (Iran & Israel) are trying not to widen the conflict. Iran need to save face and Bibi cannot overplay his hand. And USA is trying coordinate that. Which is very responsible of them.
Of course USA 🇺🇸 doesn't want the conflict to erupt. Especially at a time where normalization of relations between Israel 🇮🇱 and some of the U.S. closest Middle Eastern allies has been trending in the right direction. As soon as this conflict in Palestine is over, countries such as Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 and UAE 🇦🇪 will slowly get back to that process and will focus on increasing trade between Israel and themselves. There is too much money to be made between 1st
World countries and those that aspire to be, to allow the Gaza situation to derail years of positive work.

Regardless, Iran 🇮🇷 is posturing as "tough" for its people and its allies in the region that desperately need them to present as such. Meanwhile, USA 🇺🇸 simply says "If you start anything serious with Israel, we'll step in support of them, and that spells a BAD time for you."... Iran replies "Yes Sir!"
 

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Of course USA 🇺🇸 doesn't want the conflict to erupt. Especially at a time where normalization of relations between Israel 🇮🇱 and some of the U.S. closest Middle Eastern allies has been trending in the right direction. As soon as this conflict in Palestine is over, countries such as Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 and UAE 🇦🇪 will slowly get back to that process and will focus on increasing trade between Israel and themselves. There is too much money to be made between 1st
World countries and those that aspire to be, to allow the Gaza situation to derail years of positive work.

You could be right, but I don't think KSA would normalize without a clear and irreversible progress toward Palestinian state. I think they made pretty clear through explicit statements. You may think this is only lip service but i don't think so. UAE and KSA has different contexts. And KSA is not desperate for normalization with Israel as some may think. Yes, it is good deal for them but they are not desperate.
 

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seeds of serpents always scheming...




David Ben-Gurion
In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah.


don't point out their schemes or you're "evil"

These jews not intelligent enough to know it was a Turkic empire, the Khazar empire? The land was soon reconquered by Turks after the viking onslaught when the Pecheng Turks destroyed them and sent them fleeing to moscow. The rulers of the slavs were nordic, not slav. The reason they got the name slav is because of how widespread the viking trading of them as slaves was.

The germanic/nordic classes made up the ruling classes of europe in a similar way to how the Turks ended up being the ruling class from india to eastern europe.
 
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Man I bet the pilots of those western jets are having a once in a lifetime moment intercepting all those drones in the dark
 
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