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History is very different from what we learned, but sooner or later every lie comes out, the ones who really betrayed the Ottomans were the Jews themselves, anyway, every time I write about this subject, for some reason my messages are deleted.

As for the issue of Palestine supporting the PKK, we need to see the fact that leaders like Mahmoud Abbas are puppets of Israel. Israeli authorities have also expressed this many times.

Arabs still to this day constantly betray each other let alone the Turks. Take their oil and gas revenues away and their some of the poorest most backward peoples on earth today.
 

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Arabs still to this day constantly betray each other let alone the Turks. Take their oil and gas revenues away and their some of the poorest most backward peoples on earth today.

What I will say about the issue of betrayal is this, if you are strong everyone is with you, when you are weak everyone becomes a bloody dagger behind you. It was like this in the last period of the Ottoman Empire, there is no one left who has not betrayed us.

I can say this about the issue of Arabs, every nation that is educated correctly is hardworking and successful, but Arab culture stands in front of some things like a barrier and this is a bit of an obstacle to their development.
 

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What I will say about the issue of betrayal is this, if you are strong everyone is with you, when you are weak everyone becomes a bloody dagger behind you. It was like this in the last period of the Ottoman Empire, there is no one left who has not betrayed us.

I can say this about the issue of Arabs, every nation that is educated correctly is hardworking and successful, but Arab culture stands in front of some things like a barrier and this is a bit of an obstacle to their development.
the politics of the arab world is subject to the most aggressive and sophisticated manipulation/interference probably anywhere, due to the Zionist project as well as general proximity to Europe.

The Turks were lucky to have mustered the resolve and won some necessary wars to establish themselves ahead of that wave of downwards pressure, but the Arab countries are thoroughly managed to stay sufficiently backwards.

We are all well aware of how the West engineered much of the fundamentalist currents in the middle east. This has been a problem of the "The Great Divergence", and more recently the American unipolar moment, that it has enabled the Europeans to interfere in the evolution of civil societies across the world. One of the boons of us coming out of this unipolar moment, no small thanks to the Chinese, may be that middle countries will acquire the space to experience some organic evolution.
 

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Agreed, UK should not support a country systematically practising war crimes.

About F-35, UK does not supply Israel with F-35 parts. UK cannot stop the US supplying countries with F-35 fighters or F-35 parts except by stopping supply of UK parts to LM.

Sure, form a group of LM component producers ready to stop supplying LM. Israel's F-35's would be grounded. So would all other users' F-35. Israel would simply use other types in its inventory to destroy Gaza, wouldn't it?

Better idea to me is for UK to apply economic sanctions against Israel with other countries. Using international courts to condemn Israel's criminal behaviour won't work, will it - I don't think Israel recognises them. UN? Not going to employ all available measures (ie force) to attack Israel. As we know, the US would have to agree to that.
 

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False information

There are many families in Palestine, especially Gaza, who have a Turkish origin from the pre-Ottoman era. Some of those who I know personally have Turkish passports and live in Turkey and Palestine. The Turkish government established a new rule, I believe, two decades ago that any individual who has Turkish origin, and is' traceable through papers, can get Turkish nationality.

My friend had the birth certificate of his great-grandfather, who is Turkish and actually served in the Ottoman army during the Turkish independence war.

Here is a video (in arabic) about the story of a Turkish soldier who left a trust in Palestine (not sure what's the accurate English word for it, but it's Amana in arabic) before he left with his Palestinian friend to fight in ww1.

In Syria there are Turkic villages who preserve Turkic language. I Palestine no one speaks any Turkic. If you count anyone who had some Turkish descent as a Turk then Boris Johnson is a Turk. :)
 

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In Syria there are Turkic villages who preserve Turkic language. I Palestine no one speaks any Turkic. If you count anyone who had some Turkish descent as a Turk then Boris Johnson is a Turk. :)

In general Turk ethnicity follows that of the father. As long as the father is a Turk, the children are Turks.
 

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Israel’s Defense Minister delivers open genocidal threats on Gaza with a map of Türkiye behind him:


Quite obviously, there's a threat against Türkiye here.

Israel is not ruled by rational people. They are messianic fanatics running towards their Armageddon with evangelist's support.

Every Turk must mentally and physically get ready for a war against Israel.
In the light of recent events, I once again want to point out my previous message.

We must get ready.
 

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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/acti...p&rcm=ACoAABRzwOgBmvlODrT2TXS8kMlaF5yTaJ8QTAc

Israeli Professor Yaakov Garb (Ben-Gurion University of the Negev) has published a report [1] including IDF estimates (!) of the remaining population in Gaza in the enclaves Gaza city (1 million), Central (0.35 million) and Mawasi (0.5 million), in total 1.85 million surviving Palestinians, which corresponds to an estimated number of 2,226,544 - 1,850,000, ie 376,544, killed people as of June 3, 2025 [2].

This corresponds to an extrapolation of the estimated number of killed people in an article which was published in The Lancet in July 2024 [3]. Linearly extrapolating the estimated death count in Gaza from June 2024 to May 2025, the estimated death count is about 20 month / 9 month * 186,000 = 413,333 killed people.

This corresponds to a citizen science project to estimate the number of killed people, which estimated 426,000 killed people until May 2025 [4].

The proportion of residents of the population of Gaza between an age between 0 years and 14 years was 40.4% in 2023 [2]. Assuming indiscriminate killing (ignoring reports of targeted killings of children by the IDF), the estimated number of killed children between 0 and 14 years ranges between 152,124 and 172,104 killed (young) children.

In addition, Garb's (2025) report, concludes regarding the studied Israeli/American/GHF aid distribution compounds: "The internal layout of these compounds seems to bear the deep imprint of their military context and mindset. Their architecture is the inverse of well accepted and tested principles of food distribution in conflict or disaster areas, and liable to cause recurrent episodes of chaos and violence. ... This setup seems likely to generate a cycle of security incidents that are then claimed to justify soldiers shooting and killing aid-seekers. "

Considering mass starvation in combination with continuing military attacks on the civilian population and other health risks (eg, infectious diseases), a super-linear increase of the death count is expected in the future, including potential tipping points after no more food is available.

Refs:
[1] Garb, Yaakov, 2025, "The Israeli/American/GHF “aid distribution” compounds in Gaza: Dataset and initial analysis of location, context, and internal structure", https://lnkd.in/diaiXFpH, Harvard Dataverse, V1
[2] https://lnkd.in/daGwQW65
[3] Khatib, Rasha et al (2024). Counting the dead in Gaza: difficult but essential. The Lancet, Volume 404, Issue 10449, 237 - 238.
[4] https://lnkd.in/dkaUfmWP

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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/acti...p&rcm=ACoAABRzwOgBmvlODrT2TXS8kMlaF5yTaJ8QTAc

Israeli Professor Yaakov Garb (Ben-Gurion University of the Negev) has published a report [1] including IDF estimates (!) of the remaining population in Gaza in the enclaves Gaza city (1 million), Central (0.35 million) and Mawasi (0.5 million), in total 1.85 million surviving Palestinians, which corresponds to an estimated number of 2,226,544 - 1,850,000, ie 376,544, killed people as of June 3, 2025 [2].

This corresponds to an extrapolation of the estimated number of killed people in an article which was published in The Lancet in July 2024 [3]. Linearly extrapolating the estimated death count in Gaza from June 2024 to May 2025, the estimated death count is about 20 month / 9 month * 186,000 = 413,333 killed people.

This corresponds to a citizen science project to estimate the number of killed people, which estimated 426,000 killed people until May 2025 [4].

The proportion of residents of the population of Gaza between an age between 0 years and 14 years was 40.4% in 2023 [2]. Assuming indiscriminate killing (ignoring reports of targeted killings of children by the IDF), the estimated number of killed children between 0 and 14 years ranges between 152,124 and 172,104 killed (young) children.

In addition, Garb's (2025) report, concludes regarding the studied Israeli/American/GHF aid distribution compounds: "The internal layout of these compounds seems to bear the deep imprint of their military context and mindset. Their architecture is the inverse of well accepted and tested principles of food distribution in conflict or disaster areas, and liable to cause recurrent episodes of chaos and violence. ... This setup seems likely to generate a cycle of security incidents that are then claimed to justify soldiers shooting and killing aid-seekers. "

Considering mass starvation in combination with continuing military attacks on the civilian population and other health risks (eg, infectious diseases), a super-linear increase of the death count is expected in the future, including potential tipping points after no more food is available.

Refs:
[1] Garb, Yaakov, 2025, "The Israeli/American/GHF “aid distribution” compounds in Gaza: Dataset and initial analysis of location, context, and internal structure", https://lnkd.in/diaiXFpH, Harvard Dataverse, V1
[2] https://lnkd.in/daGwQW65
[3] Khatib, Rasha et al (2024). Counting the dead in Gaza: difficult but essential. The Lancet, Volume 404, Issue 10449, 237 - 238.
[4] https://lnkd.in/dkaUfmWP

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The Israelis themselves said it, that they are gonna kill every palestinian down to the last woman, child, and elderly
 

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