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Greeks, Armenians and Iranians say the same garbage towards Turkish people and Azerbaijani people.

They say we are fake we dont exist. Same nutters as the Zionists to be honest.
"Palestinians" were indeed invented in 1964. Thats fact. There is no any comparison with Turks here:

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Prior 1964 term "Palestinian" was sometimes used for all citizens of British Palestine mandate (1922-1948) - Jews and Arabs. But it was extremely rare.
 

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In Gaza, which was turned into a death camp by the Zionists, the terror state carried out a great massacre in the Gaza European Hospital, many civilians were brutally murdered.

As long as humanity remains silent, these demonized zionists continue to trample human dignity and law.

Palestinian sources: 63 dead in Israeli raids and shelling on various areas of the Gaza Strip since dawn today.

Six Israeli airstrikes targeted the vicinity of the European Gaza Hospital, east of Khan Yunis, in the southern Gaza Strip.
 

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There are no any Turks there. No one speaks a word of Turkish there. There are circassians though in Israel. And they serve in IDF. Very good soldiers, many are officers.

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There are many families in Palestine, especially Gaza, who have a Turkish origin from the pre-Ottoman era. Some of those who I know personally have Turkish passports and live in Turkey and Palestine. The Turkish government established a new rule, I believe, two decades ago that any individual who has Turkish origin, and is' traceable through papers, can get Turkish nationality.

My friend had the birth certificate of his great-grandfather, who is Turkish and actually served in the Ottoman army during the Turkish independence war.

Here is a video (in arabic) about the story of a Turkish soldier who left a trust in Palestine (not sure what's the accurate English word for it, but it's Amana in arabic) before he left with his Palestinian friend to fight in ww1.

 

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False information

There are many families in Palestine, especially Gaza, who have a Turkish origin from the pre-Ottoman era. Some of those who I know personally have Turkish passports and live in Turkey and Palestine. The Turkish government established a new rule, I believe, two decades ago that any individual who has Turkish origin, and is' traceable through papers, can get Turkish nationality.

My friend had the birth certificate of his great-grandfather, who is Turkish and actually served in the Ottoman army during the Turkish independence war.

Here is a video (in arabic) about the story of a Turkish soldier who left a trust in Palestine (not sure what's the accurate English word for it, but it's Amana in arabic) before he left with his Palestinian friend to fight in ww1.

In fact, the Jews know that there are many people of Turkish origin living in Palestine, they are hiding these facts because they are afraid of confronting us.

There are many more people of Turkish origin in Palestine than we think, and that is not all they are hiding, they are also hiding how they stole these lands from us. There is much more than we know, but the truth has a habit of coming out sooner or later! They will face the truth eventually.
 

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These terrorists say that we killed Gazans, everyone got used to it, we killed 100 people in one day and no one said anything.

While you are burning in the fire of hell, we will tell you that they are used to the heat of the fire.
 

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85 dead as a result of raids on several areas in the Gaza Strip since dawn today.

Israel has become more isolated than ever, excluded and excommunicated. As I have stated before, Israel will be excluded by all of humanity and will be seen as a threat to humanity, the process has now begun and it is the beginning of the end for them.

There is an Israel that is ostracized by western countries such as Canada, England, Sweden, Spain, France and even America. Tomorrow, China and Russia will also make moves against Israel. This perverted terror state, which has been poisoned by excessive power, is coming to the end of the road.









 

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Twenty years ago, Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, the spiritual father of the Hilltop Youth, outlined a vision for the elimination of democratic institutions and the establishment of Jewish supremacy. After October 7, it seems that this vision is coming true precisely before our eyes.
Shai Hizkani
Tamir Sorek

Shai HizkaniAnd Tamir Sorek
14:47 • May 22, 2025

In the midst of the protest against the disengagement plan, Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg delivered a sermon in the Rose Garden next to the Knesset. Ginsburg, the head of the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in Yitzhar, published the essay "Bless the Man" in honor of Baruch Goldstein, who was in administrative detention after Rabin's assassination, and later also wrote a book that condoned the killing of women and children from among the gentiles. Then, in January 2005, he outlined to his supporters in Jerusalem a vision that essentially gave a kiss of death to the founding and naive idea of secular Zionism, a "Jewish and democratic state."
The sermon, known today as "The Time to Crack the Nut," sought to instill the idea of Jewish supremacy in the Land of Israel, and to prepare hearts for the mass killing of Palestinians and the complete ethnic cleansing of the land. Now, on the verge of completing the cracking and the success of the rabbi's plan, it is worth revisiting the poet's intention.



Rabbi Ginsburg was born in the United States in 1944, and began his rabbinical career in the Chabad movement. He still lives in Kfar Chabad, but became popular in religious Zionist circles, especially among the Haredim. He offers a unique combination of Hasidism and messianic nationalism, inspired by Rabbi Kook and the Revisionist movement. Over the years, he has beckoned to the general public, including secular ones, with his New Age and Jewish psychology thought.
The group that admires him most is the armed militia formerly known as the "Youth of the Hills," which is now responsible for weekly pogroms and even murders in West Bank villages. Contrary to the original platform of Gush Emunim for generations, Ginsburg believes that the Palestinians are not even entitled to the status of "resident alien," and that any territory they occupy in the Land of Israel constitutes blasphemy.

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The sermon on the cracking likened Israel to a walnut with four shells: the fruit symbolizes the people of Israel, and the shells are the secular State of Israel and its institutions. According to Kabbalah, “shells” are spiritual waste that was widespread in the world at the time of its creation. Most of them represent the “stera achra” — “the other side” in Aramaic, the expression for absolute evil — but some also include sparks of divine illumination, which must be discerned.

At the beginning of the journey, the rabbi explained, the Jewish people needed the shells in order to grow and develop. But now, as he put it, “the shell, after years of protection, has become a factor that opposes and hinders the development of the Jewish people in their land.” Therefore, it must be cracked and broken in order to bring about the coming of the Messiah in our time. Three of the shells—the media, the legal system, and the institutions of government—are impure and forbidden and must be destroyed to the core; the army, the fourth shell, can be repaired—but the distorted moral values that have permeated it must be eradicated.
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg. An action plan, not a theoretical idea

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg. An action plan, not a theoretical idea


Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg. An action plan, not a theoretical idea Photo: Tomer Appelbaum
The secular media, Ginsburg stated, “creates an atmosphere in which speaking in the name of the Torah is perceived as anachronistic, primitive, and irrelevant to any discussion that is essential to our lives.” The legal system seeks to encourage “assimilation and the blurring of the differences between Israel and the nations,” and receives frequent assistance from the education system “which also strives… to impose those foreign and blurring values on the youth.” The Knesset and the government promote interests foreign to the people of Israel. The cracking of these three shells is close to completion, with the rapid pace of the regime change, the crushing of the education system, and the abandonment of the ethos of professionalism in large parts of the Israeli media.
The army is the most important and useful shell of all. It is "soft and good for eating." Cracking it and releasing the divine substance inherent in it is an apocalyptic process that will be carried out by someone Ginsburg calls "the nutcracker": a simple Jew who will rely on a primal urge for revenge, and who will not be bound by the castrating laws of the IDF spirit, those gentile values related to the "purity of weapons" and which prevent soldiers from acting according to the biblical commandment "Rise to kill you, rise to kill him." That nutcracker will take revenge on the gentiles, on the Arabs of the Land of Israel, without moral inhibitions — similar to Baruch Goldstein, or Shimon and Levi who killed all the residents of Nablus after the rape of their sister Dina.
According to Rabbi Ginsburg, the “shell that hinders the development of the Jewish people in their land” must be cracked. Three of its layers—the media, the legal system, and the institutions of government—must be destroyed to the core; the army, the fourth shell, can be repaired—but the distorted moral values that have permeated it must be eradicated.
As early as 2005, Ginsburg was not talking about theoretical ideas, but rather a clear vision in light of which his followers were supposed to act. But the plan required a moment of opportunity, an opportunity to crack open, in which vengeance would be spontaneously and organically applied to the Gentiles so that the divine substance would be released from the shell, and all that would remain would be the fruit, the people of Israel ready to accept the time of redemption. When the moment of vengeance arrives, Ginsburg believes, those avengers can also free themselves from the shackles of the Jewish law that restricts bloodshed.
The opportunity came on October 7. “The Amalekiteness evident in their acts of wickedness,” he wrote in his newsletter “Nevalot” a few weeks after the massacre, “demands that we observe in them ‘Blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven, you shall not forget it’—total annihilation, not reconciliation.” Sacrificing the kidnapped, by way of stubborn resistance to the deal, is a reasonable price to pay for what the rabbi also calls “total victory.”



Just how appealing the apocalyptic language offered by Ginsburg is to Israeli-Jews from all walks of life, who are thirsty for a "solution" to the Palestinian problem, is shown by a survey conducted in March, which sought to examine a series of "impolite" questions, the place of which we would not recognize in surveys that are regularly conducted in Israel. The survey was conducted by one of the HMs at the request of Penn State University, among 1,005 respondents who constitute a representative sample of the Jewish population in Israel.
To the question "Do you support the claim that the IDF, when conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites acted when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, that is, kill all its inhabitants?" 47% of all respondents responded in the affirmative. 65% of those surveyed responded that there is a contemporary incarnation of Amalek, and of these, 93% responded that the commandment to wipe out the memory of Amalek is also relevant to that modern-day Amalek.
Percentage of Jews in Israel who support the forced expulsion of Gaza residents

Percentage of Jews in Israel who support the forced expulsion of Gaza residents

It seems that Ginsburg and other Haredi rabbis can be especially proud of the change that has occurred in the Jewish population: 82% of those surveyed expressed support for the forced expulsion of residents of the Gaza Strip, and 56% supported the forced expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel. In the 2003 survey, the positive answers to these questions were “only” 45% and 31%, respectively.
Further evidence of Ginsburg's great victory can also be seen in the widespread adoption of positions supporting ethnic cleansing and genocide by the secular public, which has failed to present an alternative to Messianic Zionism in the form of an organized alternative anchored in the pursuit of human rights: 69% of secularists support the forcible expulsion of Gaza residents, and 31% of them see the extermination of Jericho residents as a precedent that the IDF should adopt.



Ginsburg's achievement is indeed a result of crushing the shells, even if the crackers were not always his direct supporters. The Hebrew media, the first shell, was always mobilized, but it was careful to maintain an appearance of professionalism. Recently, for the most part, it has given up this appearance, and since the massacre in the Gaza Envelope, many journalists have abandoned critical coverage, and some have even joined the raging calls for revenge, expulsion, and extermination.
The judiciary, which refused to openly declare the superiority of Jews in the Land of Israel and their right to expel, exterminate, or starve their enemies — while playing a crucial role in maintaining the occupation — seemed to Ginsburg like a stumbling block that "we must break... with ridicule and 'contempt of the court.'"It seems that the second shell has also changed , if not been completely removed: About two months ago, Supreme Court Justice David Mintz rejected the petition of the "Gisha" organization to oblige Israel to ensure the supply of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, stating that this is a "biblical war of commandment," and in effect authorized the denial of food, water, and medicine to millions of Gazans. The ruling by Mintz, a resident of the Dolev settlement, who was joined by President Yitzhak Amit and Judge Noam Solberg, from the Alon Shvut settlement, is already taking its toll.
Percentage of Jews in Israel who support the forced expulsion of Israeli Arabs

Percentage of Jews in Israel who support the forced expulsion of Israeli Arabs

The education system, part of that second shell, was a workplace where Jewish teachers who promoted universal values risked dismissal (this danger was never foreign to Arab teachers).Researchers in the education system point to a sharp shift towards an ethnocentric nationalist direction in the curriculum since the second intifada, and this process has led to high support for deportation and extermination, especially among those who completed their law studies in the last 20 years. 66% of those aged 40 and under support the deportation of Arab citizens of Israel, and 58% want to see the IDF do what Joshua did in Jericho.A generational gap in political positions is not an unusual phenomenon, but in Israel it has widened greatly since the beginning of the 21st century.
It seems that there is no need to exaggerate about the Knesset and the government. Ginsburg himself demands that "we must eradicate the government - the government of the left or the right - it must be overthrown. It must be overthrown, and when a new one is established, it must be overthrown as well, and so on - until a Torah-based government is established in the country." The five election campaigns that took place in three and a half years show that here too Ginsburg can boast quite a bit of divine support.
Percentage of Jews in Israel who believe that all residents of a captured enemy city should be killed

Percentage of Jews in Israel who believe that all residents of a captured enemy city should be killed

And so, in practice, the goal was achieved in the fourth shell as well: it is difficult to find anyone who would refuse clearly illegal orders, such as starving hundreds of thousands, creating extermination zones, or bombing densely populated residential neighborhoods. Only 9% of men under 40, the main group from which regular and reserve servicemen in Gaza come, rejected all the ideas of deportation and extermination that were presented to them. Ginsburg himself did not miss the fundamental change that has taken place in the army in the current campaign, in that the presence of a civilian population “which constitutes a shelter for terrorists,” as he put it, is no longer taken into account. Last September, he sought to congratulate the heads of state “on the change for the better” that has taken place in their position.



Some see the shock and anxiety that gripped the Israeli public in the wake of the events of October 7 as the only explanation for this radicalization. But it seems that the massacre only unleashed demons that had been nurtured for decades in the media, legal systems, and education.Zionism, besides being a national movement, is also a movement of immigrant-settlers, seeking to suppress the local population. Immigrant-settler societies always encounter violent and brutal resistance from the indigenous group, which opposes their settlement. The desire for absolute and permanent security can lead to an operational plan to eliminate the opposing population, and therefore every settlement project has the potential for ethnic cleansing and genocide., as indeed happened in North America in the 17th-19th centuries or in Namibia in the early 20th century.
The Hardalites offer Israelis a religious cover for erasing Palestinian indigeneity. It provides a language and a plan of action for religious and secular people who have sought a "solution" to the conflict that will not force them to give up the privileges granted by a regime of Jewish supremacy.
The Haredi movement, of which Ginsburg is one of the most prominent leaders of the current generation, offers Israelis a religious cover for erasing Palestinian indigeneity. It provides a language and a plan of action for religious and secular people who sought a "solution" to the conflict that would not force them to give up the privileges granted by a regime of Jewish supremacy. The use of biblical language to justify war crimes is also not a novelty for Zionism: the Puritan settlers in America, Ireland, and other places seized on the Bible and compared the indigenous populations who opposed them to Amalekites and Canaanites, and accordingly resorted to ethnic cleansing and genocide against them.
It is important to clarify: this process is not deterministic. Messianic Zionism does seek to block a process of decolonization in Israel and Palestine, but it does not make it impossible. The opponents of Messianism had several junctures where they could have chosen a different path, but the price was that they would have to reinvent themselves as Israelis. In the absence of a willingness to do so and to establish an orderly change, the essence of which is the dismantling of the regime of Jewish supremacy and the colonial mechanisms, the door was left open to the impetuous spirit of Ginzburg and his ilk. If there is any chance of stopping the gallop toward a Spartan and outcast society, it lies in the complete rejection of the idea of Jewish supremacy and Judaization, even in the version currently accepted by secular Zionism. The alternative vision to suicidal Messianism is a true equal partnership between the sea and the river.
Shai Hizkani is a professor of history and Jewish studies at the University of Maryland. He is the author of "Dear Homeland: The War of 1948—The Hidden Letters" (2024).
Tamir Sorek is a professor in the Department of History at Penn State University. He is the author of The Optimist: A Biography of Tawfiq Ziad (2023).
 

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They kill civilians because they are cowards, they always lie to the media because they are cowards.

They want to take revenge by exiling the Palestinians because they were exiled many times in history because they were perverts, but the Palestinians did not exile them before! Also, the Palestinians have been resisting exile for 3 quarters of a century because they are not cowards like them!

Poor cowards, fear is of no use in death.
 

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They kill civilians because they are cowards, they always lie to the media because they are cowards.

They want to take revenge by exiling the Palestinians because they were exiled many times in history because they were perverts, but the Palestinians did not exile them before! Also, the Palestinians have been resisting exile for 3 quarters of a century because they are not cowards like them!

Poor cowards, fear is of no use in death.

With the Russians i came to the conclusion that their so full of shit and evil intent that i pay no attention whatsoever to their side of the argument, the Israelis for me have entered the same category. The Russians will at least try to hide their crimes, the Isrealis openly celebrate them.

Before this recent war i wasnt perticular found of the palestinians, for the most part they have supported terrorists against our people and in truth have been our enemies since they side with the british against the Ottomans. Then you combine it with the fact that they constantly behave like absolute idiots and then wonder why they get crushed. But i've seen so much evil committed by the Isrealis side that its impossible not to be against them.
 

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With the Russians i came to the conclusion that their so full of shit and evil intent that i pay no attention whatsoever to their side of the argument, the Israelis for me have entered the same category. The Russians will at least try to hide their crimes, the Isrealis openly celebrate them.

Before this recent war i wasnt perticular found of the palestinians, for the most part they have supported terrorists against our people and in truth have been our enemies since they side with the british against the Ottomans. Then you combine it with the fact that they constantly behave like absolute idiots and then wonder why they get crushed. But i've seen so much evil committed by the Isrealis side that its impossible not to be against them.
History is very different from what we learned, but sooner or later every lie comes out, the ones who really betrayed the Ottomans were the Jews themselves, anyway, every time I write about this subject, for some reason my messages are deleted.

As for the issue of Palestine supporting the PKK, we need to see the fact that leaders like Mahmoud Abbas are puppets of Israel. Israeli authorities have also expressed this many times.
 

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