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This is the last warning. If you continue posting off-topic you will be banned!
 

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Couldn't see any actual sources for this yet.
Source seems to be The Jerusalem Post Hebrew. Reported in Saudi media as well:
Screenshot 2023-10-09 at 19-07-02 The Saudi Post on X.png

This was posted before this news came out:

 

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Palestinians are Arabs or at least Arabic-speaking. Palestinian rule of Israel will transform the country to a shithole.

Not necessarily, but that's not what I meant.
You have insinuating undertone (intentionally or unintentionally) which is not appreciated.


This conflict is an ethnic and territorial one, not a religious one, as you might want to believe.

It would be helpful if you stop making assumptions about my personal beliefs.

This conflcit has all three dimensions, ethnic, territorial and religious.
Denying religious dimensions is Ludacris when the very question of Jerusalem is involved.

Maybe religious dimension is not the dominant one but it is definitely there.

So, killing, kidnapping, mutilating and parading naked corpses was proven by Hamas themselves with their videos. Now you want some raping clips as solid proof? Cause, Hamas kills but doesn‘t rape, bro?!
So they ain‘t that bad, fighting for freedom.

Aggressively trying to put words in others mouth is not productive.
 

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Source seems to be The Jerusalem Post Hebrew. Reported in Saudi media as well:
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This was posted before this news came out:


I have feeling this is not the case, Bin Salman doesn't really care with this kind of events. Or at least this is not enough to stop for what he wants to achieve.
 

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Today? I thought they're getting pressed back to Gaza.

Nah, I think this is from tomorrow.
Released today. I wish they limited their operation to only this Instead of killing hundreds of civilians.

Becuase, it would have created the same shock and awe effect on IDF, fully demonstrated Hamas capability, yet international blackclash would have been much lesser.

Also, this would have been better for the legitimacy of Palestinian struggles.
 

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„Hamas martyrdom“? Stop replying to me, I don‘t converse with terror supporters.
You seriously need to step away from a black and white rhetoric regarding the conflict. PKK has been raping, killing and slaying Turkish citizens for decades but are "heroes" in the eyes of the west and USA. Especially Sweden. So terrorist is highly "subjective".

Both sides have committed documented atrocities. Look up the Shatila massacre.

Personally I believe that both parties need to make concessions to reach common ground otherwise peace will never be a reality .
 

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Palestinians are Arabs or at least Arabic-speaking. Palestinian rule of Israel will transform the country to a shithole. See self-governed West Bank as proof.

This conflict is an ethnic and territorial one, not a religious one, as you might want to believe.
Not religious! Why do you think both parties claim Jerusalem as their capital!!!

Please provide empirical evidence that this is not about religion.
 

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Egypt seems to have a new refugee crisis. Erdoğan might also welcome those . +1 million


⚡️16 Israeli deputies from the ruling coalition signed an appeal to the Prime Minister and the government, demanding to immediately take the entire Gaza Strip under Israeli control. The deputies also demand the liquidation or expulsion of all Hamas militants and the opening of the border crossing from the sector to Egypt.
 

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This guy summarized it very well I think. @Rooxbar
Yeah, their very wide ambitions also stem from the same factor (empire's backing) and their roots in enlightened smart Europeans building their nation on the basis of secular knowledge-based decision-making which has given them a pedigree of success and distinction in the region, making them oblivious to the roots of that distinction and how it has been lost in the process of the ratchet effect and the spiral of reciprocal extremization. The social parallels to the back and forth extremization game between the Ukrainian and Russian ethnic elements in Ukraine is quite telling as it is leading to the ruination of both elements.
 

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