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Supporting terrorism is a problem, is that so hard to understand?
Those Palestinians don't need your kind words right now. And I just want to confirm one thing. Are the Jews who will carry out an "ISIS" style massacre like in this picture, terrorists or not? Tell me whether their killing was justified or not. Just tell me this. I don't care about the rest.
 

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At this point HAMAS needs to go all out. Yes, they might be defeated in the end and Gazans will suffer, but this will be a story not forgotten by Arabs and by Muslims, in the end Palestinian are Arabs and Muslims, which did not cease to exist just because the ones living in Gaza are wiped out. They will still be there and in due time the future Arabs and Muslim WILL exact the same pain on them once the time comes.

People tend to forget what an event could do to rally people. In the future Muslim or Arab leader could use this event to rally people in another Holocaust and we will not have any remorse doing so.
 
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Israel Defense Forces Spokesperson:

-“This weekend Hamas launched a war against Israel with the worst massacre of innocent civilians in Israeli history.
"Hamas was more barbaric and more brutal than ISIS."
-"Let me be very clear: Israel will respond with determination and force to unprovoked war crimes. Hamas killed hundreds of Israelis (men, women and children) and took dozens hostage in Gaza."
-"Our Air Force is attacking hundreds of Hamas and Islamic Jihad targets in Gaza. We comply with international law while exercising our right and responsibility to protect our civilians."
-"The coming days will be long and difficult..."
-"Hamas terrorists are targeting Israeli civilians; Israel will target Hamas terrorists wherever they are in Gaza. We will do whatever is necessary to protect our people and ensure the security of Israel"


 

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Those Palestinians don't need your kind words right now. And I just want to confirm one thing. Are the Jews who will carry out an "ISIS" style massacre like in this picture, terrorists or not? Tell me whether their killing was justified or not. Just tell me this. I don't care about the rest.
To be frank with you i dont care what either side wants or thinks about my opinion, i have no dog in this fight.
That being said, ofcourse i do not aprove terrorism neither from palestinion nor israelis.
Even if it was my father i would not aprove it! I can answer this question that clearly in contrary to you i guess.
But i have told you this yesterday already yet you somehow dont understand it, i dont know why...
 

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At this point HAMAS needs to go all out. Yes, they might be defeated in the end and Gazans will suffer, but this will be a story not forgotten by Arabs and by Muslims, in the end Palestinian are Arabs and Muslims, which did not cease to exist just because the ones living in Gaza are wiped out. They will still be there and in due time the future Arabs and Muslim WILL exact the same pain on each and every Israeli once the time comes.

People tend to forget what an event could do to rally people. In the future Muslim or Arab leader could use this event to rally people in another Holocaust and we will not have any remorse doing so.

I understand that most of us are running high on complex emotions as we are witnessing something unprecedented. We shall serve the justice when time comes, but c'mon, we are not doing another holocaust!
 

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There is fighting back and there is being plain stupid. What short and long term effects did this attack have? A sense of terror and danger for the Israelis? Showing them that the Palestinians can fight back and inflict heavy damage? Israel still has a far more superior military might and will just hit back 10x harder and eventually retake all territories Hamas currently controls. As long as Hamas is unable to cease the territories it took long term and force Israel to admit some type of being defeated, no matter how small, this does them more harm than good.

Honestly more a less this is how i see it, its kind of a cruel cycle but the Israelis want these sorts of attacks which they then portray to the world as terrorism to then justify annexing more land. Rinse and repeat.
 

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To be frank with you i dont care what either side wants or thinks about my opinion, i have no dog in this fight.
That being said, ofcourse i do not aprove terrorism neither from palestinion nor israelis.
Even if it was my father i would not aprove it! I can answer this question that clearly in contrary to you i guess.
But i have told you this yesterday already yet you somehow dont understand it, i dont know why...
I also agree that those who kill civilians should be tried in court. So, it's no longer an issue for me.
 

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Osama Hamdan, one of the Hamas leaders:

▪️“During the Aqsa Flood operation, we reached and seized sensitive documents of the invaders.”
▪️"The operation is still continuing as planned, we continue to engage the enemy at more than 7 points."
▪️“The Al-Aqsa Flood operation showed the fragility of the Israeli army and that the Palestinian state still stretches from sea to river.”
▪️“As part of the operation, about 2000 fighters took action without the invaders noticing it.”

 

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I understand that most of us are running high on complex emotions as we are witnessing something unprecedented. We shall serve the justice when time comes, but c'mon we are not doing another holocaust!
I do think so. I just read that police in Egypt (one of Israel closest ally) randomly killed 8 Israeli tourists. This shows while the upper up of many Arab countries are more receptive of Israel, the masses simply don't.

As I said, the likely reason why this anger is not poured against a people only 9 million in size, is because the U.S is protecting this state, the cost-benefit ratio doesn't prefer a long war of annihilation .

Once the U.S is out you will see what people really crave, not only in the Middle Eastern region but as far away as most of the muslim majority countries.

Without the U.S meddling we will see this Middle Eastern region rife with conflicts with states going to war with each other for control and consolidation. And once the winner comes out on top, what better way to rally people and seek legitimation other than the second conquest of Jerusalem ?

And what better way to keep spirit high other than the constant reminder that the Israelites has committed crimes their kin in race and religion ? I could already envisioned what kind of state sponsored vilification once the time comes.
 

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At this point HAMAS needs to go all out. Yes, they might be defeated in the end and Gazans will suffer, but this will be a story not forgotten by Arabs and by Muslims, in the end Palestinian are Arabs and Muslims, which did not cease to exist just because the ones living in Gaza are wiped out. They will still be there and in due time the future Arabs and Muslim WILL exact the same pain on each and every Israeli once the time comes.

People tend to forget what an event could do to rally people. In the future Muslim or Arab leader could use this event to rally people in another Holocaust and we will not have any remorse doing so.

Come on bro.... Ease up will ya' . Don't let your emotion clouded your judgment . We are moslems .we should strife for the better ...

But i do agree .... Every dog has his days ...
I understand that most of us are running high on complex emotions as we are witnessing something unprecedented. We shall serve the justice when time comes, but c'mon, we are not doing another holocaust!
We are moslems . We allready have the codes that regulates on how we are conducting our warfare .


Mark my words here ....Gaza may ceased to exist . But , the embers of strugles .....will not!!
 

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Oh , pray and tell me then .. on how the palestinian to lecture/disciplined ( hypothetically off course !! ) their todlers when they basically live in open air prison with no clear source of incomes , educations or future ... Please enlight us the plebians here . By the way.... I am an Indonesian. A developing and poor countries with lack of educational sophistication as yours . Hence forgive me for my ignorances ...🙏🙏

By all means send your kids out to get easily killed by Jews. I know Turkish Cypriots who lived during the troubles in Cyprus and no one thought then to send their kids out to throw stones at Greek soldiers. Why give the enemy the excuse he's looking for to murder you, or rather your kids.

Listen if you were in that situation, only a devil who hates you and your kids would advise you to such things. So i'm not going to advise anyone to sends their kids to throw stones in that situation.

Arabs got to get organised and incorporate a long term strategy, everything they are doing now is basically a slow death. They wont win or rather succeed like this. With this strategy whats left of Palestine vanishes in 50 years.
 

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I'm starting to think that Erdogan is trying to use the conflict to distract from the fact that the air campaign against the YPG has slowed down if not stopped, all the while Assad bombs the shit out of Idlib.

Erdogan needs to use this as an opportunity to carry out a land operation in Syria.

Also, nobody should kill civilians under any circumstance, and people here who defend such actions must be punished.

And that's the unfortunate situation we find ourselves in, those Iranian proxies conducting attacks on Israel are part of the same gang that is against Turkiye and played a critical role in making sure 10 million arabs fled to Turkiye.

Isreal is a big problem for Turkiye with her yinon ambitions, but right now we are in a geopolitical situation where we need to be cooperating with them.
 

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