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Palestinians ARE Arabs and Muslims at the same time lol, but then again no surprise these "proxies" accusations come from the Master of using proxies which btw is now engaged in a losing fight with the Russians with Ukraine as proxies lel.
Yes they are Arabs and Muslims... Who no Arabs or Mulisms in the region give a shit about. They arm them with inferior weapons and use them as a thorn in Israel's side, then sit back and snicker when Israel bombs the ever living shit out of them.

Those Arabs and Muslims sure are good neighbours to their Palestian brethren over there... Lol they could not care less about what happens to the average person in Palestine.

As for the West's Ukrainian proxy. Two years into the war, Russia's army has been deeply damaged, the Soviet left stockpile has been horribly compromised, their missile stockpile is virtually empty, they're selling all of the foreign currency they have just to keep the Ruble's head above water, India and China are toying with them and exploiting them for their oil, while actively canceling plans to buy from their military industry moving forward and they're now starting to experience serious labour shortages due to rounds of mobilization.

Meanwhile, they control less than 20% of Ukraine, and the military cost of each additional 1% they conquer is exceptionally severe. At the same time, the West is getting an absolutely dirt cheap price to watch Russia's army get ground up and their mystique as a major military power get clowned.

So let me ask you this... Whose proxy is fairing better? Iran's Palestinians who are getting bombed into the stone age, or the West's Ukrainians who are making Russia pay an incredible price for even the smallest advancements inside Ukraine?

Oh... And did I mention that Russia's border with NATO just got a hell of a lot longer with the additions of Sweden and Finland? For the foreseeable future Ukraine is the last chance Russia now has at any kind of territory grab to the West, without invoking Article 5 and NATO kicking their teeth in.
 
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Yes they are Arabs and Muslims... Who no Arabs or Mulisms in the region give a shit about. They arm them with inferior weapons and use them as a thorn in Israel's side, then sit back and snicker when Israel bombs the ever living shit out of them.

Those Arabs and Muslims sure are good neighbours to their Palestian brethren over there... Lol they could not care less about what happens to the average person in Palestine.

As for the West's Ukrainian proxy. Two years into the war, Russia's army has been deeply damaged, the Soviet left stockpile has been horribly compromised, their missile stockpile is virtually empty, they're selling all of the foreign currency they have just to keep the Ruble's head above water, India and China are toying with them and exploiting them for their oil, while actively canceling plans to buy from their military industry moving forward and they're now starting to experience serious labour shortages due rounds of mobilization.

Meanwhile, they control less than 20% of Ukraine, and the military cost of each additional 1% they conquer is exceptionally severe. At the same time, the West is getting an absolutely dirt cheap price to watch Russia's army get ground up and their mystique as major military power get clowned.

So let me ask you this... Whose proxy is fairing better? Iran's Palestinians who are getting bombed into the stone age, or the West's Ukrainians who are making Russia pay an incredible price for even the smallest advancements inside Ukraine?

Oh... And did I mention that Russia's border with NATO just got a hell of a lot longer with the additions of Sweden and Finland? For the foreseeable future Ukraine is the last chance Russia now has at any kind of territory grab to the West, without invoking Article 5 and NATO kicking their teeth in.

Awww the last time I checked the Ukrainians are dooming because they don't get any new Leopards lel. Anyway, this is rich coming from you, I'd save this just in case in a few years Ukraine loses the war. Last time you boasted about how your additional decimal in GDP would end Russia you ended up with a clownish Ukrainian performance last Summer which captured like 2 settlements HAHAHAHAH.
 

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Awww the last time I checked the Ukrainians are dooming because they don't get any new Leopards lel. Anyway, this is rich coming from you, I'd save this just in case in a few years Ukraine loses the war. Last time you boasted about how your additional decimal in GDP would end Russia you ended up with a clownish Ukrainian performance last Summer which captured like 2 settlements HAHAHAHAH.
Russia has already lost the proxy war, you just don't understand that yet because they're still in Ukraine. They're badly bogged down, holding less than 20% of the country, losing armored vehicles at a rate that isn't close to sustainable, unable to produce missiles at a rate that can overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses in key regions, have lost 90%+ of the professional soldiers that they started the war with...

Meanwhile, not a single NATO soldier, nor current asset has been lost in the war. NATO just got even stronger with the additions of Finland and Sweden, two strategic partners on Russia's border. NATO members across the board are increasing military spending and strengthening their own capabilities. And in the coming weeks the EU will pass an additional $54 Billion usd financial package for Ukraine, which will be followed up by a $22 Billion usd weapons package later this summer. At the same time, USA, Canada, Britain and other allies are going to send them another $70+ Billion usd over the coming g year, much of which will be sent on weapons. Not enough to push Russia out of Ukraine, but more than enough to keep bleeding the Russian military dry, which is, of course, NATO's goal in the conflict.
 

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Russia has already lost the proxy war, you just don't understand that yet because they're still in Ukraine. They're badly bogged down, holding less than 20% of the country, losing armored vehicles at a rate that isn't close to sustainable, unable to produce missiles at a rate that can overwhelm Ukrainian air defenses in key regions, have lost 90%+ of the professional soldiers that they started the war with...

Meanwhile, not a single NATO soldier, nor current asset has been lost in the war. NATO just got even stronger with the additions of Finland and Sweden, two strategic partners on Russia's border. NATO members across the board are increasing military spending and strengthening their own capabilities. And in the coming weeks the EU will pass an additional $54 Billion usd financial package for Ukraine, which will be followed up by a $22 Billion usd weapons package later this summer. At the same time, USA, Canada, Britain and other allies are going to send them another $70+ Billion usd over the coming g year, much of which will be sent on weapons. Not enough to push Russia out of Ukraine, but more than enough to keep bleeding the Russian military dry, which is, of course, NATO's goal in the conflict.

Seriously ....all this equations number's game are start to lost it's charms by now . Unless those numbers are magically transform into another new ukranian's fully operated and utilized leo2 and F 16 today . All those numbers are nothing but a toilet papers in reality ....
Dude , go ask tsun zu wether
a distant water could quenched a today thirst ...

Well , atleast it proves to me that smarts doesn't always equate with a wisdom after all ☕☕
 

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Palestinians get the highest per capita amount of aid of any nation / people in the world. Had they spent that money well from 2006 / 2007 onwards when Israel left Gaza and turned governing authority over to the winners of the election in Gaza (which turned out to be HAMAS), we wouldn't be in this situation. Instead, much of that money was stolen and used to purchase / create weapons and to fund Hamas' grip over Gaza.

Undoubtedly, the West has supported Israel, but over the last 15-20 years there has been no shortage of financial support for Palestianians, especially those in Gaza. But many of the societal problems that they face, that could have been solved by Western funding, persist because HAMAS wants the population disgruntled and impoverished.

We face the same problems on our "aboriginal reserves" in North America. Reserve leadership often steals or re-purposes the immense funding our governments give them, so that the people that live there remain impoverished, drug addicted, disgruntled and hopeless and the funding cycle is forced to exist in perpetuity.

Had Palestinians risen up, ousted HAMAS, and used international funding to work towards becoming a thriving community, I would have all the empathy in the world for them. Instead, they went along with HAMAS, turned much of that funding into weapons to fight Israel, while the rest sits in the pockets of HAMAS leadership that live lavishly in places like Qatar while the populous they govern suffers.

Do you work for a Israeli newschannel?

I only read debunked claims and crazy accusations without proof.

Like the beheaded babies and raped women-theories at the start of the war.

Do you even have a own opinion?
 

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Instead, most of that money was spent on infrastructure in Gaza that was later turned into primitive rockets (see the water pipes in the region), or stolen so that HAMAS could build a rag tag army to combat Israel with. What an absolute waste of quality currency, on a people who are no better off for having received it.

That waterpipe-story was debunked here many times. Or you missed it or you are recycling the same fake theories.

Those were Israeli waterpipes built by the Israeli government for the colonial settlement structure, and when Israel left Gaza that underground pipenetwork still carried groundwater from Gaza to Israel.

Hamas cutted them off and turned them in weapons insted.

So it wasnt a Western build waterpipe-aid program.

It isnt a good idea to write here if you have no idea about the history of the region or whats happening in the region.

I dont know any shit about Canada or Quebeq so i will not write about it or make false claims. The admins should look at this. Nobody has time to debunk fake news shouted by you that was already debunked 100 times earlier in this thread.

@Cabatli_TR @Kartal1
 

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Those Arabs and Muslims sure are good neighbours to their Palestian brethren over there... Lol they could not care less about what happens to the average person in Palestine.
Simple. The USA.

If USA got banned from the play/ somewhat unable to play/ no longer what they used to be, someone in the Middle East will be steam rolled from all side.
 

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Al-Qassam Brigades publishes scenes of its fighters’ clashes with the occupation army west of the city of Khan Yunis, south of the Gaza Strip.

 

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Well , it"s look someone are conviniently putting me on their ignore list ....or he is simply couldn't handle the truth .... 😁😁
Either way .... It won't change their prevalent ignorances . And i count that as a win in my book
 
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Drone that killed US soldiers in Jordan followed American drone onto base, causing confusion​



The drone that killed three US Army soldiers and wounded dozens more in Jordan on Sunday approached the US military outpost, Tower 22, around the same time an American drone was returning to the base, which led to uncertainty over whether it was hostile and caused a delay to the US response, two US officials told CNN.

The enemy drone followed the American drone as it approached, but it is not clear whether the enemy drone intentionally followed the American one or if it was a coincidence, one of the officials said. US officials are also still assessing the enemy drone’s point of origin.

The Wall Street Journal first reported the confusion over the enemy drone.


Three US soldiers were killed in the attack on Tower 22, and as of Sunday evening more than 30 had been wounded; eight of them have been transferred to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany for further medical care.

A US official told CNN on Monday that all eight are in stable condition. Officials have said they expect the number of injured to fluctuate as more service members seek treatment for traumatic brain injury (TBI) symptoms, which can develop over time.

The attack on Sunday marked a significant escalation after roughly 165 attacks on US and coalition forces since October 17, further raising concerns over a broader conflict breaking out in the Middle East while the US and its allies navigate rising tensions on multiple fronts. A US official told CNN that there have been six attacks since Friday, including Sunday’s drone attack and a multi-rocket attack on Patrol Base Shaddadi in Syria on Monday morning.


While Iran-backed militia groups have launched continuous attacks on US and coalition forces in Iraq and Syria — leading to one serious injury and dozens of others that officials have described as fairly minor — the US has also been taking action against the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen for their attacks on commercial shipping. Meanwhile, Israel is continuing its campaign in Gaza against Hamas, and launching attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The consensus is that an Iran-backed militia group is behind the deadly drone attack, though the US is still working to determine which group specifically is responsible. National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told CNN’s Phil Mattingly on Monday that the White House believes “the group was supported by Kataib Hezbollah, which is one of the main IRGC Revolutionary Guard-core backed groups in Iraq and Syria.”

“This one had lethal consequences in ways that previous ones didn’t,” Kirby said, “but that doesn’t mean that the intent of the previous attacks weren’t also lethal, it’s just that we were able to defeat them.”

The US has already struck sites in Iraq associated with the group in recent weeks, and earlier this month targeted a member of the group that a US official said had “US blood on his hands.”

On Monday morning ahead of a meeting at the Pentagon with NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin expressed his “outrage and sorrow” over the deaths of the three American troops.

“Let me start with my outrage and sorrow for the death of three brave US troops in Jordan, and for the other troops who were wounded,” Austin said. “The President and I will not tolerate attacks on US forces, and we will take all necessary actions to defend the US and our troops.”

Austin was back at the Pentagon for the first time since his procedure on December 22 to treat prostate cancer, and his subsequent hospitalization in early January. He said Monday that he feels “good” and is “recovering well, but still recovering.”

Stoltenberg followed Austin’s remarks also expressing his condolences for the loss of the three US soldiers, and those who were wounded.

“[T]his demonstrates once again the risk that servicemen are exposed to and they stand up for our values and take part in missions, operations where we protect freedom and the values we all believe in,” Stoltenberg said.

Republicans in Congress have demanded stronger action by the Biden administration in response to the death of US soldiers, with some calling for direct attacks inside Tehran.

Sen. Roger Wicker, the highest-ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, called for action “directly against Iranian targets and its leadership” in a statement on Sunday. Sen. Tom Cotton, who also sits on SASC, said that the “only answer to these attacks must be devastating retaliation against Iran’s terrorist forces, both in Iran and across the Middle East.”

Kirby said Monday that Biden is “working his way through” the options ahead of him.

 

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The head of Hashdi Shaabi, Falih Al-Fayad ordered the emptying of Hashdi Shaabi HQs in the northern, western and central sectors, ceasing of all training and leaving only guards at the positions in question.

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  • 30 January 2024
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    The situation in the Middle East is currently more tense than ever in the past four decades, according to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.
    “I would argue that we have not seen a situation as dangerous as the one we’re facing now across the region since at least 1973. And arguably, even before that,” Blinken said on Monday, referring to the two-week-long Yom Kippur War. “I think it’s very important to note that this is an incredibly volatile time in the Middle East.”



 

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Nothing screams "rule-based" international order like cutting off funds to people whom you have helped create a disaster for them after getting MAD at ICJ readings.

Here are the countries of the so-called "Rules-based international order" gang

  1. The United States
  2. Australia
  3. Canada
  4. Italy
  5. Germany
  6. Finland
  7. the Netherlands
  8. Switzerland
  9. United Kingdom and Scotland
  10. Japan

Japan LOL

Still under the Americans thumb.
 

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