Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[500]

They do not have an Israeli state tradition, they govern their country with a dark mindset that comes from beyond the age, and the Israeli army does not act like an army, but like terrorist organizations like DEASH or the PKK. (These terrorist organizations are already established and supported by Israel.)

They have no moral or legal value, so they do not deserve an evaluation as to whether they are successful or not.

In this war, we have only seen the evil face of Israel, they are now accepted as perverts and terrorists all over the world.

In a way, they caused the beginning of their own end.

Millions of Arabs live under control of Israel. And they live even better than in their own Arab countries. Thats how "evil" is Israel.

On the other hand 7 oct slaughter made by Hamas which u support is worse than even Daesh ever did.

 

[begturan]

Millions of Arabs live under control of Israel. And they live even better than in their own Arab countries. Thats how "evil" is Israel.

On the other hand 7 oct slaughter made by Hamas which u support is worse than even Daesh ever did.

You have become a brainwashed obsessive person who believes in your own inventions, of course there are sane people among you but you also despise and slaughter them like animals.

You are truly perverted people, one day you will be subject to the wrath of Allah, I guess Allah will assign us to punish the oppressors again.

The only nation we have not fought against in our history is the Jews, but I think we will end up with you.

 

[500]

You have become a brainwashed obsessive person who believes in your own inventions, of course there are sane people among you but you also despise and slaughter them like animals.

You are truly perverted people, one day you will be subject to the wrath of Allah, I guess Allah will assign us to punish the oppressors again.

The only nation we have not fought against in our history is the Jews, but I think we will end up with you.

I repeat: millions of Arabs live for decades under IDF control and they are fine, even better than in their own Arab countries.

Now lets discuss something serious. Lets check the cease fire.

Hamas claims victory. But what happened in reality? for about a year they said that they wont release any hostages until following demand wont met:

1) Full end of the war with guarantees.
2) Full IDF withdrawal.
3) Rebuilding of Gaza.

Now they agreed to release hostages without any of these demands met. So thats defeat for Hamas.

Trump already said that the war may resume. Thats clear warning for Hamas to behave well.

If thy release all hostages for reasonable price we will redeploy around Gaza leaving nearly 1 km closed security zone around Gaza.

No more games: when they fire one rocket then another 5 then 10, make riots near the border etc.

 

[Saithan]

What I find kinda funny and sad is that @begturan did not even bother reject the accusation of him supporting what Hamas did on october 7. it's sophistry, but it works to paint you as a terrorist supporter.

You instead choose to counterattack. IMO that shows how blind you get from allowing emotions control you.

Not very smart tbh.

 

[Scott Summers]

What I find kinda funny and sad is that @begturan did not even bother reject the accusation of him supporting what Hamas did on october 7. it's sophistry, but it works to paint you as a terrorist supporter.

You instead choose to counterattack. IMO that shows how blind you get from allowing emotions control you.

Not very smart

Because 7 October wasnt a terrorist attack.

The world woke up and saw through all the Epsteinian-propaganda.

They justified the genocide with their fellow Epsteiners in the mass media by claiming that there were 1400 civillian deaths, rapes and beheaded babies.

Now we know after all the debunking and factchecking that there were only 1200 deaths and they were all soldiers, policemen, reservists and armed settlers.

There were no babies beheaded or women raped, according to the Israeli experts.

The festivalpeople were kidnapped by Hamas, and the only civillians on the battleground were killed by the IDF per Hannibal treatment.

So yes, 7 October was a good thing and we need more of these 7 Octobers.

Every dead Epsteinian zionist is a relief for this planet and should ne celebrated.

 

[500]

Because 7 October wasnt a terrorist attack.

The world woke up and saw through all the Epsteinian-propaganda.

They justified the genocide with their fellow Epsteiners in the mass media by claiming that there were 1400 civillian deaths, rapes and beheaded babies.

Now we know after all the debunking and factchecking that there were only 1200 deaths and they were all soldiers, policemen, reservists and armed settlers.

There were no babies beheaded or women raped, according to the Israeli experts.

The festivalpeople were kidnapped by Hamas, and the only civillians on the battleground were killed by the IDF per Hannibal treatment.

So yes, 7 October was a good thing and we need more of these 7 Octobers.

Every dead Epsteinian zionist is a relief for this planet and should ne celebrated.

Again u attribute to Israel what Hamas is doing. Its Hamas one minute knows exact number of casualties. Like it jhappened in case of Al Ahli hospital where they claimed 800 killed. While later it was found that their own misfired rocket hit a parking lot and hospital is intact.

In case of 7 oct casualties were slowly counted and growing. First reports were about 100 killed then 300, by the end of the day 700 only on third day it reached 1400, but later reduced to 1200 because some Hamas dead bodies were counted by mistake (there were total about 1000 Hamas bodies).

Again its Hamas which does not report about its militant casualties. While Israel reports about every single soldier. Total 301 soldiers were killed on 7 Oct.

That includes everyone: unarmed logistical and administrative soldiers, unarmed female soldiers, armed civilian self defence units in kibbutzim (many of them 70 year old men). All these were counted by Israel as soldiers.

In addition 55 civilian policemen and policewomen who with pistols fought against armed to teeth Hamas.

All the rest, the overwhelming majority of killed were regular civilians. They brutally killed and hijacked without distinguishing all ages, genders and nationalities. Jews, Arabs, Thai workers, black foreign students, children, old, women..

Out of about 210 hijacked alive only 10 were soldiers (including 6 unarmed female soldiers), All the rest were regular civilians, including Arabs, Thai, children, women, old..

Even ISIS never did such terror attack like Hamas.

 

[GoatsMilk]

What I find kinda funny and sad is that @begturan did not even bother reject the accusation of him supporting what Hamas did on october 7. it's sophistry, but it works to paint you as a terrorist supporter.

You instead choose to counterattack. IMO that shows how blind you get from allowing emotions control you.

Not very smart tbh.

I remember early in this war when the Australian jew on here was denying the hospitals being destroyed by Isreali forces, murdering countless civilians. Something that since that initial attack has happened countless times. He was accusing people of being terrorist sympathisers. Typical cheap sleazy zionist style tricks. Reminds me of that absolute rat Gad Saad whose a very slippery and crooked character, who lies and manipulates relentlessly to paint the picture that all Muslims are terrorists.

The Zionists remind me of the Russians, endless murder of civilians, nothing but pure propaganda and denial. Everything is good.

It's somewhat like how the Russians were accusing every Ukrainian they murdered as they bombed and raped indiscriminately of being NAZI's. The Jews as they murder indiscriminately accuse everyone as being a terrorists.

However "Islamist" forces have made it exceptionally easy to be painted as the shitheads. Even many Muslims are becoming totally sick of Islamists and their bullshit. Oct 7th was dopey, over a year later countless thousands dead, Gaza reduced to shit status and they celebrate a ceasefire, which we all know under the zionists is never going to hold. Rinse and repeat and the Arabs/Islamists get to lose yet another war.

 

[Scott Summers]

Trump implying that he wont support Israel with weapons anymore.

“It’s not our war but their war.”

“It’s a very nice location, but now it looks like a demolition site.”

“We may help them with construction.”

The Mossad didnt try to kill him for nothing. Donald J. Trump the drainer of the Epstein swamps.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881515155592503544

 

[500]

Trump implying that he wont support Israel with weapons anymore.

“It’s not our war but their war.”

“It’s a very nice location, but now it looks like a demolition site.”

“We may help them with construction.”

The Mossad didnt try to kill him for nothing. Donald J. Trump the drainer of the Epstein swamps.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881515155592503544

Trump actually removed all limitations on weapons which Biden imposed. What Trump said here that war may resume again if Hamas behaves bad. That was main demand of Israel all the time.

 

[500]

Now lets talk about the war. What Hamas tried to achieve when they started it?

1. They wanted rebellion among the Israeli Arabs. They failed. Israeli Arabs are more loyal than ever.
2. They wanted rebellion in West Bank. They failed. Beside some stabbing they failed to do anything.
3. They wanted massive help from the Iranian "Axis of resistance". Axis intervened and it resulted in massive defeat for Hezbollah and collapse of Assad regime. Colossal failure. No more Shia crescent from Iran to Lebanon.
4. They wanted help from the Arab world. They failed. The Arab world did absolutely nothing.
5. They wanted destroy Israeli peace agreements with Arab countries like Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Bahrain, Morocco... They failed.
6. They wanted isolate Israel in the world. They failed. On contrary pro Israeli leaders elected in Netherlands, Argentine, USA. Woke pro-Hamas left is losing.
7. They wanted Jews flee "back to Europe". They failed. Israel's population increased by 2.5%, while more than 100,000 Gazans fled.
8. They wanted to crash Israeli currency. They failed. Israeli shekel is stable.
9. They wanted to crash Israeli economy. They failed. Israeli economy keeps growing.
10. They wanted Israel to release all their prisoners. They failed. Israel has much much more Hamas prisoners than before the war.

In short they failed in everything. Leaders who initiated 7 oct are dead. Their tunnel network is destroyed. Their massive rocket arsenal is destroyed. Most of Hamas battalions destroyed. Israel cleansed 1 km buffer zone around its border and border with Egypt. Their stronghold in Jabalia camp is totally destroyed.

They were forced to return hostages without all demands they set (1.Full end of the war with guarantees. 2. Full IDF withdrawal. 3. Rebuilding of Gaza).

 

[begturan]

I repeat: millions of Arabs live for decades under IDF control and they are fine, even better than in their own Arab countries.

Now lets discuss something serious. Lets check the cease fire.

Hamas claims victory. But what happened in reality? for about a year they said that they wont release any hostages until following demand wont met:

1) Full end of the war with guarantees.
2) Full IDF withdrawal.
3) Rebuilding of Gaza.

Now they agreed to release hostages without any of these demands met. So thats defeat for Hamas.

Trump already said that the war may resume. Thats clear warning for Hamas to behave well.

If thy release all hostages for reasonable price we will redeploy around Gaza leaving nearly 1 km closed security zone around Gaza.

No more games: when they fire one rocket then another 5 then 10, make riots near the border etc.

You shoot and kill Palestinian civilians every day without reason, you imprison them, torture and rape them, but do you think their situation is very good? I wonder what situation they would be in if it were bad?

What I find kinda funny and sad is that @begturan did not even bother reject the accusation of him supporting what Hamas did on october 7. it's sophistry, but it works to paint you as a terrorist supporter.

You instead choose to counterattack. IMO that shows how blind you get from allowing emotions control you.

Not very smart tbh.

Hamas is not seen as a terrorist in my country and in the eyes of Turkish people, in fact people are marching in support of Hamas on the streets.

Hamas is a political party and one of the legitimate governments of Palestine, it has implemented a strategy to stop the oppression of the Palestinian people by Israel and has taken hostages. While Hamas was taking hostages, Israel shot its own civilians and blamed this crime on Hamas, Israeli eyewitnesses and an Israeli captain confessed this.

İsrailli yüzbaşı, 7 Ekim'de esirleri de öldürmeyi öngören "Hannibal Protokolü"nü uyguladığını kabul etti

İsrail ordusunda görevli bir yüzbaşı, 7 Ekim saldırıları sırasında İsrailli esirleri de öldürmeyi öngören "Hannibal Protokolü"nü uyguladığını kabul etti. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

The real terrorism is done by the Israeli state, which violates international law and does not recognize any rules, laws and human values.

Therefore, I do not seem to support terrorism, but those who remain silent about Israel, which kills, imprisons, tortures and rapes civilians without reason every day, seem to support terrorism.

I remember early in this war when the Australian jew on here was denying the hospitals being destroyed by Isreali forces, murdering countless civilians. Something that since that initial attack has happened countless times. He was accusing people of being terrorist sympathisers. Typical cheap sleazy zionist style tricks. Reminds me of that absolute rat Gad Saad whose a very slippery and crooked character, who lies and manipulates relentlessly to paint the picture that all Muslims are terrorists.

The Zionists remind me of the Russians, endless murder of civilians, nothing but pure propaganda and denial. Everything is good.

It's somewhat like how the Russians were accusing every Ukrainian they murdered as they bombed and raped indiscriminately of being NAZI's. The Jews as they murder indiscriminately accuse everyone as being a terrorists.

However "Islamist" forces have made it exceptionally easy to be painted as the shitheads. Even many Muslims are becoming totally sick of Islamists and their bullshit. Oct 7th was dopey, over a year later countless thousands dead, Gaza reduced to shit status and they celebrate a ceasefire, which we all know under the zionists is never going to hold. Rinse and repeat and the Arabs/Islamists get to lose yet another war.

If Hamas had not launched an operation against Israel in Gaza, when Turkey started to take over Syria, Israel would have taken over Damascus and united with the PKK. They could not launch an operation against Damascus because they were stuck in the mud in Gaza.

 

[500]

You shoot and kill Palestinian civilians every day without reason, you imprison them, torture and rape them, but do you think their situation is very good? I wonder what situation they would be in if it were bad?

Thats simply not true. When they dont commit attacks no one is touching them,

Hamas is not seen as a terrorist in my country and in the eyes of Turkish people, in fact people are marching in support of Hamas on the streets.

Hamas deliberately murders civilians so they are terrorists.

1) They started from suicide bombings of buses and markets deliberately killing many hundreds of civilians.
2) When suicide terror was suppressed they switched to indiscriminate rocket attacks at civil neighborhoods.
3) When this was suppressed as well they pretended they want peace and then launched treacherous 7 oct attack slaughtering 800 civilians in few hours.

All 3 are 100% pure acts of terrorism.

Hamas is a political party and one of the legitimate governments of Palestine

No, they illegally seized power in Gaza throwing from roof their opponents.

The real terrorism is done by the Israeli state, which violates international law and does not recognize any rules, laws and human values.

Millions of Arabs live safely under the Israeli rule, even better than in their own Arab countries.

Jews under Hamas have only two options: be killed or held as a hostage.

If Hamas had not launched an operation against Israel in Gaza, when Turkey started to take over Syria, Israel would have taken over Damascus and united with the PKK. They could not launch an operation against Damascus because they were stuck in the mud in Gaza.

If Hamas had not launched their terrorist attack then Hezbollah would remain intact and Assad was still ruling Syria.

 

[500]

Hamas admits that at least 1,400 of its police officers were killed during the war, Another 1,950 were wounded and another 211 captured.

Before the war there were 7451 policemen in Gaza. That means roughly half of Hamas policemen were either killed or injured or imprisoned.

 

[Scott Summers]

Thats simply not true. When they dont commit attacks no one is touching them,

Hahahaha.

How do you sleep in the night? How do you walk on the streets?

The IDF killed a old woman who was picking olives. The IDF killed a woman who was waving a white flag. A American-Israeli doctor in Gaza told he never saw in his 40 year carreer so much toddlers and kids with bullets in the head. The IDF killed more than 100 journalists and medics, what did they wrong?

So go elsewhere with your zionazi propaganda and dont put your bullshit and lies here.

Every occupation deserves resistance, so Hamas or Islamic Jihad could never be ‘terrorist’ organisations, they fight for their land and against a foreign occupation. If they are terrorists, than the Vietcong and the French/Belgian/Dutch resistance during WO II are also terrorists.

Just because they fight against your genocidial etnic pedo-state, doenst make them terrorists.

The real terrorists are the zionazi thugs and babykillers of the IDF, made out organisations as Irgoen, Stern, Haganah and Palmach, the first terrorist organisations of the world.

I am putting you on ignore,