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$40BN of oil / gas infrastructure destroyed.
Yah, Qatar is biggest loser.

There are two ideologies that poison the Muslim world: Khomenism and Muslim Brotherhood aka Qatar aka Hamas. Now they destroy each other.

$10Bn of US military bases in the region destroyed. And this does not reflect the cost from the loss of production in GCC nor the impact of Israeli economy shut down.

Both US and Israeli stocks are booming. Now US also started massive export of oil:


Iranian rial is record low.

You think all this happened through some jedi mind trick ? How is this 'unable to do anything' when this is one of those wars that attackers and attacked are both facing similar effects.
As I said naval blockade imposed on 13 April turned the tables. Ayatulas decided to throw stones while living in glass house.
 

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Israel was shocked by Hezbollah's simultaneous attack with 8 FPV kamikaze drones and began withdrawing its military forces from Lebanon. So, Israel's F-35s couldn't save them, apparently :)
Prior the case fire IDF captured 400 km2 of Lebanese territory, including Hezbollah stronghold Bint Jbeil losing 13 soldiers, none of it due to FPV. Hezbollah itself suffered around 1300 killed.

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After the case fire when Israel severely limited its bombings and IDF soldiers are in static position, Hezbollah activated drones and managed to kill 2 soldiers and 1 Israeli civilian (Muslim Arab by the way).
 

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Yah, Qatar is biggest loser.

There are two ideologies that poison the Muslim world: Khomenism and Muslim Brotherhood aka Qatar aka Hamas. Now they destroy each other.



Both US and Israeli stocks are booming. Now US also started massive export of oil:


Iranian rial is record low.


As I said naval blockade imposed on 13 April turned the tables. Ayatulas decided to throw stones while living in glass house.
The idea of somehow US exporting oil is good for the US economy is the sort of mindset that got US into this mess. Under no circumstances any oil exported will equal:
1. The $500BN in extra defense funding asked
2. The damage to US economy in every sector (from semiconductor to agriculture)
And if the US wanted to export oil, then it would have the foresight to shut the strait of Hormuz unilaterally as a means to that.

Sure US stock market is up but it was at this level in March.

As for Israel, look for whatever indicator, but there GDP dropped 3.8%.
 

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Could the USN protect itself and bulk carriers, tankers it escorted through Hormuz? Perhaps a large number of fighters patrolling above could prevent fast boats approaching but anti-ship missiles? How would they be stopped? And what to do about drone swarms?
 
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That's not relevant to my question as I'm talking about today and tomorrow.

Again, what state does the Palestinians belong to in your ideal Israel vision?
There is no one Israeli vision. Everyone has different vision.

For me the ideal solution would be give them back to Jordan and Egypt.
 

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There is no one Israeli vision. Everyone has different vision.

For me the ideal solution would be give them back to Jordan and Egypt.
You want to "give" the people without their land. That's called ethnic cleansing.

Not that you guys care about human rights and international law. We know that you don't. However wishing&acting in such manner showcases a strategic blindness. Every one of your steps bring us closer to "ideal solution" for the region and its native people.
 

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There is no one Israeli vision. Everyone has different vision.

For me the ideal solution would be give them back to Jordan and Egypt.
First. That is ethnic cleansing.
Second. The Palestinians are indigenous to the region whereas European jews like Bibi are not.
 

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First. That is ethnic cleansing.
Second. The Palestinians are indigenous to the region whereas European jews like Bibi are not.
I blocked @500
He is a racist, supports child killing and genocide. He has never written anything that makes even a little sense and his posts are driving me off this forum.
 
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He is a racist, supports child killing and genocide. He has never written anything that makes even a little sense and his posts are driving me off this forum.
If you are a neutral forum,you cant interfere,every member is free to his/her opinion.
It is up to the members to decide which information is true or false.
 

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I blocked @500
He is a racist, supports child killing and genocide. He has never written anything that makes even a little sense and his posts are driving me off this forum.
The complete degradation of this thread, is the mutual responsibility of this derailment agent 500 and those who indulge him.

It is obvious as daylight he has no intention towards objectivity or truth, but someone like this can only exert influence through others buying into that false promise of an objective discussion.

This is the cycle of action:
(post obviously false, absurd claims) -> (other forum members challenge on rational grounds) -> (respond with obviously false, absurd claims) -> (ad infinitum)

It's a shame as a I recall prior to his activation, this thread was quite an intriguing base of discussion.
 
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I blocked @500
He is a racist, supports child killing and genocide. He has never written anything that makes even a little sense and his posts are driving me off this forum.
I think that's a mistake. It was good to have him to show everyone what are the israelis about.
 

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I blocked @500
He is a racist, supports child killing and genocide. He has never written anything that makes even a little sense and his posts are driving me off this forum.
The complete degradation of this thread, is the mutual responsibility of this derailment agent 500 and those who indulge him.

It is obvious as daylight he has no intention towards objectivity or truth, but someone like this can only exert influence through others buying into that false promise of an objective discussion.

This is the cycle of action:
(post obviously false, absurd claims) -> (other forum members challenge on rational grounds) -> (respond with obviously false, absurd claims) -> (ad infinitum)

It's a shame as a I recall prior to his activation, this thread was quite an intriguing base of discussion.
A good forum is where all views are discussed no matter how controversial it may seem to you. Important point is to convey your views across, without stepping over the line and disobeying the forum rules.
We have members here that are very controversial and in fact are enemies of sort when it comes to each other’s views. Mostly their discussions and arguments are civil.

If you don’t see the other side of the medallion, the forum becomes a one sided platform where no real discussions are made. If you can’t endure and stand what the other side has to say, then you can not negotiate peacefully. If you can’t at least agree to disagree then what chance do we have of peace?
 

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I think that's a mistake. It was good to have him to show everyone what are the israelis about.
A very right wing politician was invited to speak at my university. The 'anti-Nazi' faction at the university demanded he should not be given a platform to express his views. There was a Jewish Society at the university. It wanted the politician to express his views so that, through argument with him, it could be shown that his views did not merit support.
 
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