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Agent 500 should stay on. Anybody gloating about how good Israeli economy is doing now deserves a platform, if for no other reason but to think how a Bibi supporter rationalizes things.

And on another note: US is down to two carriers (technically one while one is in transit to it).

Gerald Ford returning to base. All those repairs in Crete and Split were to get it to a point of being able to sail, not re-engage in battle

 

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Another update, China will not follow the sanction to Iran any more.
The breaker of Iran Nuclear Agreement is US, not Iran.
During the time that oil price has rise above $100, the sanction to Iran will not only influence China but also Korea, Japan and Australia, those countries need the product oil outcoming.
 

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You want to "give" the people without their land. That's called ethnic cleansing.

Not that you guys care about human rights and international law. We know that you don't. However wishing&acting in such manner showcases a strategic blindness. Every one of your steps bring us closer to "ideal solution" for the region and its native people.
I did not say without land. Together with land.

First. That is ethnic cleansing.
Second. The Palestinians are indigenous to the region whereas European jews like Bibi are not.
See above.
 

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Agent 500 should stay on. Anybody gloating about how good Israeli economy is doing now deserves a platform, if for no other reason but to think how a Bibi supporter rationalizes things.
I am not a Bibi supporters and never was. On last elections I voted for Arabic party of Mansur Abbas actually. :)
 

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What are US options for a major air attack: number of carriers is same now as it was in March. Fewer land base options . Possibly the one in Jordan. There is strategic reach from UK with B-52s/B-1s.

One would assume that more force would be needed to get Iran to comply as the same amount of force was determined to be not enough and hence the cease fire. But where is that extra force is going to come from? Isreal is strong but same strenght as it was a month ago.
 

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I did not say without land. Together with land.
I don't understand. Your ideal israel map included West Bank and Gaza. How can you give land and annex West Bank&Gaza at the same time?
 

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I don't understand. Your ideal israel map included West Bank and Gaza. How can you give land and annex West Bank&Gaza at the same time?
I did not say its my ideal map. I said its a map of "Complete Israel" as right wingers see it.

While so called "Greater Israel" does nor exist at all. Even most extreme right wing parties like Ben Gvir don't have any Greater Israel in their program. Some other use it for fun and trolling.
 

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Well well well. If US ambassador says that there is Greater Israel ambition, why would believe we you and not him?
Oh it is all just in jest ? The map of Greater Israel on the shoulders of Jewery army?
Od course as of now Greater Israel does not exist, who says that it doe?
Poor us Goyims , we take all very literal , don't we?
I don't think that any sort of reasonable engagement with you has any particular meanings, nothing really matters to you apart from you yourself.
Whatever is told to you, is ignored or relativesed or deflected.
No any will for sincere exchange of the thoughts.
To tell you the truth, I think that about 90 % of so called Anti Zionist Jews , just play soft ball Anti Zionism.
They ain't any better than your ilk.
In any case, we reached the point of no return, the majority of people know how permanent and malicious malignant entity you are.
Eventually, it must end . There is rehabilitation for you, the same devious characteristics are repetitive time after time
Oh , It is all fun and games???
This is how Israeli controlled territories changed under the right wing government:

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Israeli controlled territories shrank about 3 times!

On the other hand Iran in same period of time created dozens of Shiite militias in neighboring countries. effectively taking under its control Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.

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About million Muslims were killed in Iran expansion wars.

Yet somehow Israel is portrayed as aggressive expansionist and Iran as peace loving.
 

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I did not say its my ideal map. I said its a map of "Complete Israel" as right wingers see it.

While so called "Greater Israel" does nor exist at all. Even most extreme right wing parties like Ben Gvir don't have any Greater Israel in their program. Some other use it for fun and trolling.
1) What is your ideal map of Israel?
2) Why Israel doesn't have well defined&fixed borders?
3) If that's the complete Israel for right wingers, what do they propose for the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza?
 

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This is how Israeli controlled territories changed under the right wing government:

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Israeli controlled territories shrank about 3 times!

On the other hand Iran in same period of time created dozens of Shiite militias in neighboring countries. effectively taking under its control Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.

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About million Muslims were killed in Iran expansion wars.

Yet somehow Israel is portrayed as aggressive expansionist and Iran as peace loving.
How many countries has Iran invaded with the aim of conquering land?
Israel on the other hand: Palestine, Lebanon, Syria.
 

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This is how Israeli controlled territories changed under the right wing government:

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Israeli controlled territories shrank about 3 times!

On the other hand Iran in same period of time created dozens of Shiite militias in neighboring countries. effectively taking under its control Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.

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About million Muslims were killed in Iran expansion wars.

Yet somehow Israel is portrayed as aggressive expansionist and Iran as peace loving.
I don't know why you keep relating things to Iran? What if Iran kills xyz number of Muslims so can you?
Besides, no one likes Iran here, everyone knows what's Iran so playing that card doesn't change much.
As of your " heroics" against inept people with almost complete support if the West, even if it is taken superficially, it doesn't match up with South African Boers or Zimbabwean Whites. Not even close.
As I have said before, id US ambassador says that Greater Israel should exist , it means that idea doesn't come from his ass but from the ideology and theosophy with which he is enamoured. It is old idea.
I give you one thing though, it is not just unique to the Jews to play " revanchist" and irredentist gamea.
You might traded some territories temporarily but I know very well, that Arabs has a lot more chance to beat you in 70s then now.
So I guess, you will need some " re recruitment" from " God fearing" Texans to finish the job.
Oh I think that Golan and Harmon are a lot more useful than Sinai .
Oh yes, I forgot, no matter how this might sound uncomfortable to some, The Boers were much better to the Blacks than Blacks are to themselves and, Natal and Free Orange State were uninhabited.
 

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I don't know why you keep relating things to Iran? What if Iran kills xyz number of Muslims so can you?
Besides, no one likes Iran here, everyone knows what's Iran so playing that card doesn't change much.
As of your " heroics" against inept people with almost complete support if the West, even if it is taken superficially, it doesn't match up with South African Boers or Zimbabwean Whites. Not even close.
As I have said before, id US ambassador says that Greater Israel should exist , it means that idea doesn't come from his ass but from the ideology and theosophy with which he is enamoured. It is old idea.
I give you one thing though, it is not just unique to the Jews to play " revanchist" and irredentist gamea.
You might traded some territories temporarily but I know very well, that Arabs has a lot more chance to beat you in 70s then now.
So I guess, you will need some " re recruitment" from " God fearing" Texans to finish the job.
Oh I think that Golan and Harmon are a lot more useful than Sinai .
Oh yes, I forgot, no matter how this might sound uncomfortable to some, The Boers were much better to the Blacks than Blacks are to themselves and, Natal and Free Orange State were uninhabited.
Iran killed millions of Muslims with their PKK, ISIS and Assad.
If Muslims can kill other weak Muslims and no one cares then the world will do the same.


back on topic. It seems as though the war has resumed again. I give it another 3-weeks before another round of peace talks.
 

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Iran killed millions of Muslims with their PKK, ISIS and Assad.
If Muslims can kill other weak Muslims and no one cares then the world will do the same.


back on topic. It seems as though the war has resumed again. I give it another 3-weeks before another round of peace talks.
I know what is Iran very well, but no matter what, that doesn't change the position and deeds of the Jewry.
He mentioned USSR??? Jewery killed 38% of Khazastan just in 1933 and 20% of Khazaks moved to China??? No?
 

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I don't know why you keep relating things to Iran? What if Iran kills xyz number of Muslims so can you?
Besides, no one likes Iran here, everyone knows what's Iran so playing that card doesn't change much.
As of your " heroics" against inept people with almost complete support if the West, even if it is taken superficially, it doesn't match up with South African Boers or Zimbabwean Whites. Not even close.
As I have said before, id US ambassador says that Greater Israel should exist , it means that idea doesn't come from his ass but from the ideology and theosophy with which he is enamoured. It is old idea.
I give you one thing though, it is not just unique to the Jews to play " revanchist" and irredentist gamea.
You might traded some territories temporarily but I know very well, that Arabs has a lot more chance to beat you in 70s then now.
So I guess, you will need some " re recruitment" from " God fearing" Texans to finish the job.
Oh I think that Golan and Harmon are a lot more useful than Sinai .
Oh yes, I forgot, no matter how this might sound uncomfortable to some, The Boers were much better to the Blacks than Blacks are to themselves and, Natal and Free Orange State were uninhabited.
This thread is about Iran no?

In the end of 1970-es in Israel came to power right wingers. supporters of "Complete Israel" (which is wrongly translated as "Greater Israel").

In Iran came to power ayatulas.

And what happened since then?

- Israel gave up territories for peace, shrinking 3 times.
- Iran on the other hand started building its Shiite empire, effectively taking control over Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen... murdering nearly a million people in process.

This trend changed after 7 Oct. When Israel was brutally attacked by Iranian supporter terrorists. Iran lost control in Syria and Lebanon, Israel created tiny buffer zones.
 
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