Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[TR_123456]

It is unlikely that the Iranian ayatollahs will be able to retain power.

How unlikely,who is going to topple them?

 

[TR_123456]

Can someone teach me the real reason for war, the actual important elements of the war (what is important to strike, how does a war carry out like this), so like I can understand the war somewhat.

Well,the real reason is that Nethanyahu needs to stay in power.
The official reason is that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
Trumps reason is that he needs to keep the Israeli lobby in America happy.
The war will end here and everybody will be happy.

 

[Passenger]

Why would it be a great thing for Israel?
Israel started this war because of iran's nuclear ambitions so why would Israel be happy about it?
Maybe you are trying to say the opposite?

I dont think so.
At the beginning, the Iran nuclear deal was torn up because Israel refused to accept the lifting of sanctions against Iran.
They simply want to destroy an enemy in middle east region.
Nuclear weapons are merely an excuse for sanctions. Even if Iran gives up its nuclear capability, the United States and Israel will simply replace the excuse with ballistic missiles

 

[Melkör]

They’ve attacked during Ramadan and killed Khamenei. What a power play!

 

[Iskander]

That makes the issue even more complicated. If there is a change of power in Iran, will it tend to become more stable or less stable? If it becomes more stable, then Israel will not be a problem any more. If it becomes less stable, will there be a surge of refugees impacting neighboring countries.

The US and Israel don't need stability in Iran. In fact, they're bombing it precisely to destabilize the situation. They want to "muddy the waters" to "catch the big fish."

When chaos reigns in the military-political leadership, and the ayatollahs and generals of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps flee, Prince Pahlavi will be flown to Tehran on a military plane and seize power. Then they will try to stabilize the situation.

The Shah of Iran fled the country on January 16, 1979, while the capital plunged into complete chaos.
Khomeini flew from Paris to Tehran on February 1 and assumed the vacant throne.

 

[Passenger]

The US and Israel don't need stability in Iran. In fact, they're bombing it precisely to destabilize the situation. They want to "muddy the waters" to "catch the big fish."

When chaos reigns in the military-political leadership, and the ayatollahs and generals of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps flee, Prince Pahlavi will be flown to Tehran on a military plane and seize power. Then they will try to stabilize the situation.

Follow this logic, If Prince Pahlavi could bring a stabilize situation to Iran, he will be treated like Khamenei, or even greater(By IDF and USAF).

 

[TR_123456]

They’ve attacked during Ramadan and killed Khamenei. What a power play!

So,every country with modern airforce could have done it.
No air defence no airforce,every intelligence agency knew where he lived.
Nothing special about it.

 

[Melkör]

The US and Israel don't need stability in Iran. In fact, they're bombing it precisely to destabilize the situation. They want to "muddy the waters" to "catch the big fish."

When chaos reigns in the military-political leadership, and the ayatollahs and generals of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps flee, Prince Pahlavi will be flown to Tehran on a military plane and seize power. Then they will try to stabilize the situation.

And then the American Persians along with their Jewish overlords will blame all the miserable past and misfortune of Iran on the Turkish Republic showing Tayyip as the head of the snake. New Iran will continue to treat Turkey as an adversary just like mullah Iran did.

 

[Melkör]

So,every country with modern airforce could have done it.
No air defence no airforce,every intelligence agency knew where he lived.
Nothing special about it.

Could Turkiye have done it? Would they have? Im not so sure.

 

[TR_123456]

Could Turkiye have done it? Would they have? Im not so sure.

Yes,we could have but we wouldnt have,why would we?

 

[Passenger]

Ayatollah Khamenei, who battled the US and Israel for decades as Iran’s supreme leader, has been killed

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/28/middleeast/obituary-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-hnk-intl

It was Khamenei’s advancement of Iran’s nuclear program that ultimately led to the attacks on Iran by Israel and the US.

Though he repeatedly claimed the program was for peaceful purposes — and even issued a religious decree, or fatwa, proclaiming that nuclear weapons were forbidden by Islam — he steadfastly supported the development of nuclear energy as a matter of national sovereignty and strategic leverage.

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By the time Hassan Rouhani, a centrist politician, succeeded hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president in 2013, the nuclear showdown with the West had turned into Iran’s biggest foreign policy challenge. With Khamenei’s approval, Rouhani’s administration negotiated the 2015 nuclear deal (known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA) with world powers, including the US. The deal was meant to free the Iranian economy from years of crippling sanctions in return for limits on Iran’s nuclear program, notably its enrichment of uranium.

But Khamenei remained skeptical. His reluctance to fully embrace the deal contributed to its fragility. When Trump unilaterally exited the agreement in 2018, Iran continued to abide by it. But a year later, Tehran said it would no longer be bound by its commitments if the other parties to the JCPOA were in breach of theirs.

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The election of reformist President Masoud Pezeshkian in 2024 on a platform of reengaging with the world and resolving Iran’s nuclear standoff brought hope of reinvigorating Iran’s economy and reintegrating the Islamic Republic into the international community. Talks resumed with the US a year later, but hopes of reaching a detente with the West were crushed by Israel’s attack on Iran in the middle of those talks, as it sought to capitalize on its military gains after the October 7 attacks.

Eight months later, Iran and the US began another round of indirect talks, mediated by Oman. Despite engaging with Tehran, the Trump administration started the biggest American military buildup in the Middle East in over two decades. Trump sent mixed signals, saying talks had been going well, while advocating regime change in Iran.

Iran nuclear project in US view.

 

[Iskander]

Follow this logic, If Prince Pahlavi could bring a stabilize situation to Iran, he will be treated like Khamenei, or even greater(By IDF and USAF).

They (the US, Israel) want to take power from the ayatollahs and hand it over to the Pahlavis. They will only need stabilization after a transition period.

 

[Iskander]

And then the American Persians along with their Jewish overlords will blame all the miserable past and misfortune of Iran on the Turkish Republic showing Tayyip as the head of the snake. New Iran will continue to treat Turkey as an adversary just like mullah Iran did.

It remains unclear whether the ayatollahs and their loyal generals will flee Iran or plunge it into bloodshed.
It's worth noting that, after coming to power in 1979, the ayatollahs killed thousands of the Shah's supporters in just a few months without trial or investigation.
They undoubtedly understand that if they lose power, they themselves will become victims of the new regime.
Let's set aside speculation about Turkey and Erdogan as mere speculation It's most likely a conspiracy theory.
Meanwhile, almost the same thing is being written on Russian forums: after Iran, it's Russia's turn
All this is far from reality.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

This should be a lesson to every country. Iran has been completely discredited and dismantled, and it is only a matter of time before the next top targets are eliminated.
The country has nothing to offer, and they have gambled too high in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and the Red Sea.

Turkey must massively accelerate the development of TAI KAAN, Hürjet including its engine, and its AAMs + drones.
In the area of air defence, the Sungur, Hisar and Siper series must also be significantly improved. We do not need 3-4 different versions of loitering munitions or cruise missiles just yet; there is still time for that.

 

[Tonyukuk]

This should be a lesson to every country. Iran has been completely discredited and dismantled, and it is only a matter of time before the next top targets are eliminated.
The country has nothing to offer, and they have gambled too high in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and the Red Sea.

Turkey must massively accelerate the development of TAI KAAN, Hürjet including its engine, and its AAMs + drones.
In the area of air defence, the Sungur, Hisar and Siper series must also be significantly improved. We do not need 3-4 different versions of loitering munitions or cruise missiles just yet; there is still time for that.

It's also a lesson not to play into Israel's hand by being a theocracy. Imagine if Iran was secular for the past 4 decades and quietly built its army and scientifically progressed without suppressing its own population, then one day it had enough of Israel's shit and taught them a lesson. They wouldn't be in the current predicament they're in.

Of course, this is ignoring the stupid Shahs, they're shit too but that's another topic.

 

[Ryder]

If Turkiye doesnt stack up on Deterrents like Nuclear, Chemical, Biological and EMPs. It will be all over.

Turkiye will be left alone which means nobody is gonna help us or even save us. Not Europe, Islamic World, Arab world, Turkic World, African Union and Far East Asia.

The Jews have destroyed the Arabs and the Iranians.

They are going to go after the Turks.

All thanks to Sultan Bayezid II. Its all his fault.

 

[Tonyukuk]

If Turkiye doesnt stack up on Deterrents like Nuclear, Chemical, Biological and EMPs. It will be all over.

Turkiye will be left alone which means nobody is gonna help us or even save us. Not Europe, Islamic World, Arab world, Turkic World, African Union and Far East Asia.

The Jews have destroyed the Arabs and the Iranians.

They are going to go after the Turks.

All thanks to Sultan Bayezid II. Its all his fault.

Türkiye also shouldn't advertise any intentions to acquire nukes. Just do it quietly.

I must say Gazap is pretty fucking terrifying, they should be mass produced and a variety of delivery methods should be prepared.

 

[Sanchez]

Türkiye also shouldn't advertise any intentions to acquire nukes. Just do it quietly.

It can't, process is pretty apparent.

I must say Gazap is pretty fucking terrifying, they should be mass produced and a variety of delivery methods should be prepared.

Gazap is an Mk-84 sized 1 ton bomb; there's nothing "terrifying" about it.

 

[Passenger]

Nuke is a very, very expensive weapon, and must use combin with ICBM and satellite system.
For most of country, it is a trap which would burn the most of defence budget.
It is also a question that whether all the citizen could accept they will live in poor for a long time.

 

[Anastasius]

I highly doubt that. There's no American interest to wage a war against Iran that would grant public support for it. The idea was already very unpopular to begin with. If Iran can prove that attacking their country will cost you an arm and a leg then what argument would the warhawks use to sell the public on it? It's not like Iran is encircling the US so you could come up with self-defense arguments. It's a losing proposition for all accounts.

And it's not even just about today. If the US can get away with attacking the Iran today, they will do that again and again in the future. Iran has to pay the price today to save themselves the headache in the future. If they could, they should sink US ships and annihilate US bases. Iran has limited number of missiles and they shouldn't waste them on Israel. It's not like the US will land troops and fight the Iraninan soldiers. There cannot be another Iraq for the US. They cannot afford it.

I don't think you're aware of how gullible and overly emotional a large segment of the US public is. I'm not even talking about the MAGA crew but regular Americans who already don't particularly care for anyone or anything in the Middle-East and are only lukewarm on the idea of permanent occupation. They have no real qualms with the US army going in to steamroll anything that moves and then nuke the remains for good measure before leaving.