Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

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We need a strong China more than ever to keep that bully USA in check.
China is disinterested in keeping anyone in check outside of their neighbourhood.

Im pretty sure US did use sm3 to kill drones before, they dont like to take risk trying to reduce risk with sm2
Doubt it, link me.
 

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Yes it does? We have direct access to NATO missile defence system which the AN/TPY-2 is part of; it's headquartered in Germany and same system was used during the Black Sea drones incident last year.
On paper to a certain degree. It is under the operational control of Turkish armed forces.


Türkiye on high alert during Iran's missile attack on Israel ...

The Kürecik Radar Station in Malatya, Turkey, is a critical NATO early-warning asset, operational since 2012, designed to detect ballistic missile threats. While operated by U.S. personnel, it is situated on a Turkish military base with security provided by the Turkish Armed Forces. Turkey retains control over data access, mandating that information is shared only with NATO allies.

The AN/TPY-2 radar systems at the site are operated by U.S. military personnel. None other than US personnel are allowed to operate the radar systems.
The site is operated as a NATO asset, primarily manned by U.S. personnel. While Turkey is responsible for the external security and perimeter protection, the internal operation room, which manages highly sensitive data, is generally restricted to U.S.

So how do we know if the critical information is not passed over to the Israelis? We depend on US personnel to pass on information to us. The information they may see fit.
 
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We need a strong China more than ever to keep that bully USA in check.
I am afraid none can prevent US from going mad.
You used the word "in check" which mean two people is playing chess, but now US is the one refuse to loss and shot the opposite with gun.
 

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On paper to a certain degree. It is under the operational control of Turkish armed forces.


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The Kürecik Radar Station in Malatya, Turkey, is a critical NATO early-warning asset, operational since 2012, designed to detect ballistic missile threats. While operated by U.S. personnel, it is situated on a Turkish military base with security provided by the Turkish Armed Forces. Turkey retains control over data access, mandating that information is shared only with NATO allies.

The AN/TPY-2 radar systems at the site are operated by U.S. military personnel. None other than US personnel are allowed to operate the radar systems.
The site is operated as a NATO asset, primarily manned by U.S. personnel. While Turkey is responsible for the external security and perimeter protection, the internal operation room, which manages highly sensitive data, is generally restricted to U.S.

So how do we know if the critical information is not passed over to the Israelis? We depend on US personnel to pass on information they pass on. The information they may see fit.
Isnt it time we changed this situation?
A NATO country but cant access the the internal operation room on its own soil,you think the Germans/Italians and others have the same restrictions?
I dont think so.
 

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An American submarine, presumably a Virginia-class submarine, sank the Iranian frigate Dena, a Mowj-class submarine, in the Indian Ocean as it returned from a naval parade in India. The frigate, reportedly a destroyer, belongs to the Iranian Navy. The 1,500-ton Dena, launched in 2015, is technical information available on the screen and in the video description. The Iranian frigate Dena was sunk by a presumably American 533-mm Mk48 ADCAP torpedo fired from a Virginia-class nuclear-powered attack submarine off the coast of Sri Lanka.

Mowj-class frigate Dena

Displacement: 1,300 to 1,500 tons.
Length: 95 meters.
Width: 11.1 meters.
Draft: 3.25 meters.
Propulsion: Two 10,000 hp (7,500 kW) engines and four 740 hp (550 kW) diesel generators.
Speed: 30 knots.
Crew: Up to 180.
Armament:

76 mm DP rapid-fire automatic cannon;
40 mm Fath anti-aircraft cannon (a Bofors copy);
4 C-802 / Noor anti-ship missiles;
2 20 mm Oerlikon cannons;
2 triple 324 mm light torpedoes;
4 Sayad-2 SAM systems.

Aviation equipment: Bell 212 anti-submarine helicopter.
Radar: Asr, covers 360 degrees within a 300 km radius.

 

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On paper to a certain degree. It is under the operational control of Turkish armed forces.


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The Kürecik Radar Station in Malatya, Turkey, is a critical NATO early-warning asset, operational since 2012, designed to detect ballistic missile threats. While operated by U.S. personnel, it is situated on a Turkish military base with security provided by the Turkish Armed Forces. Turkey retains control over data access, mandating that information is shared only with NATO allies.

The AN/TPY-2 radar systems at the site are operated by U.S. military personnel. None other than US personnel are allowed to operate the radar systems.
The site is operated as a NATO asset, primarily manned by U.S. personnel. While Turkey is responsible for the external security and perimeter protection, the internal operation room, which manages highly sensitive data, is generally restricted to U.S.

So how do we know if the critical information is not passed over to the Israelis? We depend on US personnel to pass on information they pass on. The information they may see fit.
No. All air defence systems and early warning radars in Turkey(except the nonoperational S400 battery in Mürted) operate under the BHHM/CAOC Torrejon which answers to Ramstein at the moment. There's a subunit in Eskişehir at 1st AJÜ and all information goes through there, allowing Turkey full access. Entirety of Turkey's air defense picture along with batteries and the squadrons tasked with defending the airspace is under NATO. In a world where a BM takes at most 10 minutes from launch to impact, there's simply no time to discuss plans of action or ask for permission from respective governments. NATO(in this case the Joint NATO Air Defence Command based in Torrejon of which Turkish servicemen is also a part of per rotation) just defends directly as it sees fit by monitoring and tasking the most fit and closest units. This could be an American Burke, the Spanish Patriot in İncirlik, or the future Siper B3 in Diyarbakır. It's the same Torrejon CAOC that tasks Turkish F-16s to intercept drones coming from Black Sea, or tasking Turkish F-16s deployed to Romania to intercept drones coming from the east. All the E-3 flights that take off from Konya for months and watch south or east are also tasked under the same CAOC.

NATO of course gives information to Israel, it's an ally of NATO. But TPY-2 in Kürecik hardly helps Israel, that's another matter. Radar was placed there to keep track of Russian and Iranian BMs launched at European NATO. Regardless same air picture is used by the American destroyers off the coast of Israel intercepting BMs right this second, same as the American destroyer that intercepted the BM over Turkey today. This is NATO working as intended, giving Americans full view of things while also helping our own defense. Rest is politics.
 
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Exclusive... Airdrops of foreign troops in Iraq

The Independent Arabia learned from a government source in Iraq about a foreign airdrop in the Najaf desert, and the source confirmed that the foreign force is believed to belong to the United States andIsrael, and there have been clashes between it and Iraqi forces.

The source noted that the force's tasks may include planting spy or aerial surveillance devices or sending support to groups warring Iran through Iraq.

On the other hand, the MP for Karbala province, Zuhair al-Fatlawi, released the details of the "airdrop" that took place in the desert of Najaf, stressing that the information was "from his own sources".

Al-Fatlawi said in a statement seen by "Independent Arabia" that "a force believed to be an American force carried out a rapid landing operation in the Najaf-Karbala desert in southwestern Iraq, at 6 p.m. on Tuesday, and according to our reports, the force entered from the Syrian side, with a number ranging from four to seven helicopters, accompanied by the deployment of military wheels of the type (Hummer) in an area about 40 kilometers away from Al-Nukhayeb."

"A military force from the Karbala Operations Command, consisting of 30 Hummer vehicles carrying Iraqi flags, went to investigate the news, which was confirmed by Iranian channels, as it coincided with shelling in the Samawa desert and Anbar, which strengthened the atmosphere of tension and speculation of a security escalation in the area," he said.

"The Iraqi reconnaissance force came under fire and aerial bombardment, which led to the death of one fighter and the wounding of two others and the damage of one of the military wheels," Karbala said.

"The news was issued by Iranian channels, while no precise details have been released by the Iraqi side or the joint forces, which confirm or deny its details so far," al-Fatlawi said.

"The area is located within the responsibility of Iraqi military formations, and is characterized by a complex geographical nature that includes deep valleys, rocky hills and sand dunes, some of which reach a height of about 200 meters," the spokesman explained.

MP Mohammed Jassim al-Khafaji revealed on Wednesday in a post on his Facebook account that "a military force of the Iraqi army affiliated with the Karbala operations, numbering about 30 military 'Hummers' and flying Iraqi flags on them, went to reconnaissance and to clarify the position regarding the landing, but it was subjected to aerial bombardment."

"The shelling resulted in the death of one fighter and the wounding of others," al-Khafaji said, stressing that "US forces made up of helicopters and soldiers stationed there".

It is worth mentioning that the Joint Operations Command announced on Wednesday morning that it was shelled while carrying out a search mission in the desert area linking the provinces of Karbala and Najaf at dawn today, which led to the death of a fighter and the wounding of two other heroes of the security units.

"Following the incident, a higher investigation committee was formed to determine the circumstances of what happened and take the necessary legal measures," the Joint Operations Command said in a statement.

The statement stressed that "the recurrence of such incidents against our security forces inside our territory and while performing their duties is a violation and an unjustified act, and represents an unacceptable violation that will be dealt with in accordance with the laws and military norms in force."

An informed government source, who declined to be named, said that unknown foreign forces (as described by the source) carried out an airdrop in the desert of Najaf province targeting the army and the Popular Mobilization Forces, and a military cable was received about this security breach in this highly sensitive area in Iraq.

"Information was received from an Iraqi shepherd about the presence of an unidentified foreign airdrop in the area of al-Thabaneh, a district of Najaf, where helicopters ranging in numbers ranging from five to seven were observed sharing military wheels of the 'Hummer' type camouflaged in a desert color," the government source said.

The source added that "the authorities in the area have taken measures of caution, caution, and extreme attention and verifying information to thwart the intruders' intentions," adding that "the authorities in Najaf sent a telegram about the exposure of the military forces and the Popular Mobilization Forces to a foreign attack, which occurred at 8:30 a.m. on Wednesday, accompanied by an aerial bombardment by a force from the 41st Brigade of the Second Regiment, an Iraqi army affiliated with the Karbala Operations Command."

The source explained that "the incident led to the wounding of Colonel Infantry Colonel Haidar Abdul Sada Radi Al-Khuzaei, the commander of the second regiment, and three members of the brigade, and the wounded were transferred to Karbala Hospital and they are still there, and the Iraqi forces are conducting an extensive investigation to find out who made this hostile infiltration and examine the defensive fortifications."

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Is it the precursor to the ground operations by the US and Israeli armies?
There was a power outage in Iraq, and it is highly likely that a cyber attack was used.
 
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First time in my life that Diesel was more expensive then petrol. I can not imagine what the hell we will do in Winter time if goes like this.
 

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It crashed to Syria.
Savunmasanayist and the below Xaccount say it crashed in Qamishli. That is close to 550 km to Dortyol where SM3 fell.
SM3 has a max speed of around 8mach. It works on hit to kill. If it were an exo atmospheric interception, please explain to me how it came back by 550km, when what it hit fell down 550km away?

Funnily almost intact??

This is the remains of the sm3 Turkey is recovering.
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If you watch the Reuter’s video you will see that back part of the SM3 is intact. But front is mangled.

This is the picture taken from Qamishli of the Persian missile:

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In exo atmospheric interceptions as it is happening in vacuum. Both missiles should have been annihilated. Even if major parts have survived, they should carry on their original trajectory for a little while (albeit slower) . They shouldn’t be travelling in opposite directions.
 
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No. All air defence systems and early warning radars in Turkey(except the nonoperational S400 battery in Mürted) operate under the BHHM/CAOC Torrejon which answers to Ramstein at the moment. There's a subunit in Eskişehir at 1st AJÜ and all information goes through there, allowing Turkey full access. Entirety of Turkey's air defense picture along with batteries and the squadrons tasked with defending the airspace is under NATO. In a world where a BM takes at most 10 minutes from launch to impact, there's simply no time to discuss plans of action or ask for permission from respective governments. NATO(in this case the Joint NATO Air Defence Command based in Torrejon of which Turkish servicemen is also a part of per rotation) just defends directly as it sees fit by monitoring and tasking the most fit and closest units. This could be an American Burke, the Spanish Patriot in İncirlik, or the future Siper B3 in Diyarbakır. It's the same Torrejon CAOC that tasks Turkish F-16s to intercept drones coming from Black Sea, or tasking Turkish F-16s deployed to Romania to intercept drones coming from the east. All the E-3 flights that take off from Konya for months and watch south or east are also tasked under the same CAOC.

NATO of course gives information to Israel, it's an ally of NATO. But TPY-2 in Kürecik hardly helps Israel, that's another matter. Radar was placed there to keep track of Russian and Iranian BMs launched at European NATO. Regardless same air picture is used by the American destroyers off the coast of Israel intercepting BMs right this second, same as the American destroyer that intercepted the BM over Turkey today. This is NATO working as intended, giving Americans full view of things while also helping our own defense. Rest is politics.
If what you explain is the case; Do you approve that our country’s air defence system is controlled by foreign entities? Mainly by an Israeli-driven-US ?
Why are we trying so hard to have our own air defence system, as when we finally have it, it can be used to stop an aerial attack on Greece?
Or alternatively, will it stop Greek or Israeli Lora missiles fired at us?
According to what you say, when our Tepe destroyers are fitted with Siper B-3 , they can be activated by central NATO command to fire on a BM attack on Greece, even if it is coming from us.
 

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please explain to me how it came back by 550km, when what it hit fell down 550km away?
For one we don't know if only a single interceptor was launched or any other details of the engagement at this stage. We don't actually even know if only one BM was launched.

If what you explain is the case; Do you approve that our country’s air defence system is controlled by foreign entities? Mainly by an Israeli-driven-US ?
Why are we trying so hard to have our own air defence system, as when we finally have it, it can be used to stop an aerial attack on Greece?
Or alternatively, will it stop Greek or Israeli Lora missiles fired at us?
According to what you say, when our Tepe destroyers are fitted with Siper B-3 , they can be activated by central NATO command to fire on a BM attack on Greece, even if it is coming from us.
Me approving something doesn't matter, it just is. This is the "RoE" in peacetimes like these. During national operations or war time depending on the situations at hand, we of course have our ways to directly circumvent NATO. Which would mean we could work at reduced capacity by having no access to said assets, but neither would others. But air force is simply not designed to fight against NATO. Noone's air force is, including US. They in turn would also lose the same access. That's why all and every one of our air force platforms are being fitted with Mod 5 IFF; so they can all talk to each other securely and not have a repeat of what Kuwaitis did the other day. It's also probably why the Americans shot down that MIT TB2 over Syria few years ago; MIT is not NATO and can freely operate out of its bound, MIT claimed it was just a simple misunderstanding. This is also F-35's selling point for most users. It's full on American allyship in an aircraft form with everything it brings good or bad.
 
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Savunmasanayist and the below Xaccount say it crashed in Qamishli. That is close to 550 km to Dortyol where SM3 fell.
SM3 has a max speed of around 8mach. It works on hit to kill. If it were an exo atmospheric interception, please explain to me how it came back by 550km, when what it hit fell down 550km away?

Funnily almost intact??

This is the remains of the sm3 Turkey is recovering.
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If you watch the Reuter’s video you will see that back part of the SM3 is intact. But front is mangled.

This is the picture taken from Qamishli of the Persian missile:

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In exo atmospheric interceptions as it is happening in vacuum. Both missiles should have been annihilated. Even if major parts have survived, they should carry on their original trajectory for a little while (albeit slower) . They shouldn’t be travelling in opposite directions.
Yeah,take a look at the crater it caused,about 3 to 5 meter wide.
When such an object falls from the sky,it only creates a periphery of 3/5 meters?
And it happens to fall in Kamisli,a US stooge ''territory''?
Mühahahaha(yesilcam gülüsü).


Btw,if such a missile(6 m at least) is hit,and the front is gone,how can it hit the ground like that?
Isnt the weight on the backside now,it spins around and just falls sideways or on its back,no?
 

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Turkey summoned the Iranian ambassador to Ankara for a meeting following the incident involving a missile shot down over its territory.

Iran claims the missile was launched toward Cyprus but deviated.


A missile launched from Iran was shot down by an American interceptor launched from the Mediterranean Sea, causing the Iranian missile to fall in Qamishli and the American missile to fall in Hatay, 500 kilometers away!
How is this possible?
An American interceptor shot down an Iranian missile, then returned and fell in Hatay??? :rolleyes:
Isn't there a more plausible explanation?
 

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Turkey summoned the Iranian ambassador to Ankara for a meeting following the incident involving a missile shot down over its territory.

Iran claims the missile was launched toward Cyprus but deviated.


A missile launched from Iran was shot down by an American interceptor launched from the Mediterranean Sea, causing the Iranian missile to fall in Qamishli and the American missile to fall in Hatay, 500 kilometers away!
How is this possible?
An American interceptor shot down an Iranian missile, then returned and fell in Hatay??? :rolleyes:
Isn't there a more plausible explanation?

realistically its best the demonic zionist cabal fail in iran. Because its obvious they will come for Turkiye next and outside Pakistani nukes that would mean the entire Islamic world has been conquered. Now when i say Islamic, its not even about being Muslim, its about being a state or peoples that historically is part of islamic civilisation.

As "Turks" we are the primary peoples of that civilisation that the combined euro-origin world has had hardest time dealing with.

However like i said earlier about the two options that take place, Turkiye must intervene to protect the Turkic peoples. You cant allow the same thing to happen their that happened to the Turkmens in Iraq and even Syria to a degree.

Unfortunately when you look at the last few hundred years, whatever direction the arabs, kurds or persians moved in, its outcome has only been further catastrophe for the middle east and the wider muslim world.

also listen to this homosexual degenerate.


One other thing, dont be fooled about the kurdish message to fight the iranians. This is the same game they played in syria where the kurds took land over, but never actually ever fought the regime. Its about making sure the kurdistan piece is there.
 
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Savunmasanayist and the below Xaccount say it crashed in Qamishli. That is close to 550 km to Dortyol where SM3 fell.
SM3 has a max speed of around 8mach. It works on hit to kill. If it were an exo atmospheric interception, please explain to me how it came back by 550km, when what it hit fell down 550km away?

Funnily almost intact??

This is the remains of the sm3 Turkey is recovering.
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View attachment 79491
If you watch the Reuter’s video you will see that back part of the SM3 is intact. But front is mangled.

This is the picture taken from Qamishli of the Persian missile:

View attachment 79492

In exo atmospheric interceptions as it is happening in vacuum. Both missiles should have been annihilated. Even if major parts have survived, they should carry on their original trajectory for a little while (albeit slower) . They shouldn’t be travelling in opposite directions.
@Nilgiri your take on this situation?
 

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Is there an actual proper source for this outside twitter?

The AOR was Sri Lanka where it happened and Sri Lankan Coastguard responded.

lots of indian twitter feeds seem to be reporting it.


we will see moving forward.

"Yes, the report is true. Iran's IRIS Dena frigate joined MILAN 2026 in India (invited, participated Feb), was returning with ~180 crew when a US sub torpedoed it in international waters off Sri Lanka today—first US sub torpedo sinking since WWII. 87 dead, 32 rescued by Sri Lanka; no Indian aid reported. Modi govt silent, no condemnation issued. Pentagon confirmed via Sec Hegseth."

but the point stands about it not being in indias "area of effect/responsibility" i guess.
 

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@Nilgiri your take on this situation?

I think that is the SM-3 booster. It gets jettisoned within the atmosphere, where it lands then depends on the trajectory it followed till that point etc...i.e ballistic fall.

Rest of SM-3 then makes the further high alt course + interception...and are largely destroyed I think (re-entry or interception). There are 3 stages in total I think.

The Iranian missile same thing, we could be looking at booster that is jettisoned after burnout.
 
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