Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[Spitfire9]

The intention is the different.

On October 7th Hamas killed/maimed civilians in Israel for their gratification. In Gaza IDF soldiers took pot shots at people queueing for food and killed/maimed civilians for their gratification. Same intention to kill/maim civilians.

Both sets of inhuman bastards committed crimes against humanity.

 

[mehmed beg]

On October 7th Hamas killed/maimed civilians in Israel for their gratification. In Gaza IDF soldiers took pot shots at people queueing for food and killed/maimed civilians for their gratification. Same intention to kill/maim civilians.

Both sets of inhuman bastards committed crimes against humanity.

For the gratification, really??? Ordinary psychopaths , when having time can kill someone for gratification. Not in military operation, I know that as a fact.
In any case after all that talk about the babies being killed, Haaretz reported 2 children killed in crossfire.
In any case I am sure that form time to time Ukrainians kill children, but I see no any answer from you????
By the way I know that Ukrainians killed children, they killed them also in my country, which doesn't stop me that in the case of Ukrainian war , I kinda prefer them over the Russians .
I understand that this issue is kind of tricky for you as you are a Jew yourself, I understood 500 too , but that's as far as it goes.
You just can get the receipt from me for your delivered " goods".
Frankly, what I despise the most is the fact that, here we don't deal with the political idea , social or cultural model or any sort of coherent thoughts.
I can argue to no end with the opposing opinion to mine.
But in this case, we are in front of something astonishingly ugly, deranged, malicious .
In reality we are dealing with misanthropic, psychotic common criminals, market usurers and pretenders. Jews absolutely do not pose any sort of dilemma to me , simply there is nothing there to be in two thoughts.
Imagine to exist all this time and not to poses a simple philosophical question???.
Albert Rosenberg described it as technical Jewish mind.
The only thing that there is , is " how this can be used?" , which would be kind of understandable if there is at least latent danger.
Alas no, even the Eskimos which are far away are there to be used and abused.
The only similar thing today is pseudo right wing, their only ideology is the hate
I am struggling to find anything more than that. Actually it would be more fun to find something tangible to argue about, alas no .
Just people who in some funny way confirm what they hate the most, the spirit and nature of human.
Truly they have ingrained demonic qualities about them.

 

[Spitfire9]

Nothing but a linguistic argument.
Strange personal summarisation, presented as some sort of " moral" conclusion.
Interestingly enough, you have all your particularities ready when you are at Ukrainian War thread????
All of sudden, people have their story there?? Who is good or bad , in that case, is very well defined.
What in particular, stops you to apply the same logic in Palestinian case????

I do not view barbaric behaviour as barbarism when exhbiited by one group but not by another. Do you?

Who is bad in the Palestinian case? In my opinion many parties over more than 100 years. In the Ukrainian case? Russia attacked Ukraine not as a preemptive move because iRussia was under threat (as Israel was in 1967). Putin wanted to attack and vanquish what was perceived as a far weaker neighbouring country.

 

[Passenger]

Before all, Israel is invider in Gaza.

 

[Azareen]

True. Hamas kills women, children and old people and is considered a terrorist organisation by many countries. Israel kills women, children and old people yet curiously is NOT considered a terrorist organisation by many countries.

It makes no sense that two entities acting identically are judged so differently.

When you occupy torture the people they are naturally bound to react and attack the oppressor the occupier, that's natural for all the humans, there is no proof that hamas killed, children, women and old people for the sake of killing, mostly are western propaganda, and the west names hamas terrorists because they need to hide Isreali state terrorism, a country which fully supported funded, armed by America and the west, with state of the art weapons granted by America, kills scores of children, women, old people dening them their basic rights such as water, food, electricity, and bombing every day, destroying people, their livelyhoods, terrorising millions of people, and in the west they compare and equal hamas to the genocide and mass killing, destruction and killing of people in hospitals, babies, and new born babies in incubators, causing inhumane sufferings on a group of people is justified because, an armed group is fighting against them, so the entire west keeps on justifying those ruthless terrorists just because they share their own skin colour and culture.

 

[Spitfire9]

When you occupy torture the people they are naturally bound to react and attack the oppressor the occupier, that's natural for all the humans, there is no proof that hamas killed, children, women and old people for the sake of killing, mostly are western propaganda, and the west names hamas terrorists because they need to hide Isreali state terrorism, a country which fully supported funded, armed by America and the west, with state of the art weapons granted by America, kills scores of children, women, old people dening them their basic rights such as water, food, electricity, and bombing every day, destroying people, their livelyhoods, terrorising millions of people, and in the west they compare and equal hamas to the genocide and mass killing, destruction and killing of people in hospitals, babies, and new born babies in incubators, causing inhumane sufferings on a group of people is justified because, an armed group is fighting against them, so the entire west keeps on justifying those ruthless terrorists just because they share their own skin colour and culture.

You make it sound like Hamas are these likeable people who would not hurt anyone. The savagery of October 7th suggests otherwise.

If you have read what I have written on this forum, you will be aware that this westerner is no supporter of Israel. Nor are many, many people in the UK. The Jewish community here is suffering open attacks at the moment, triggered by outrage at the behaviour of the Israelis in Gaza. Sadly the UK and other European governments have done little more than to disapprove of what Israel has done in Gaza and have taken no real action. against Israel

 

[mehmed beg]

You make it sound like Hamas are these likeable people who would not hurt anyone. The savagery of October 7th suggests otherwise.

If you have read what I have written on this forum, you will be aware that this westerner is no supporter of Israel. Nor are many, many people in the UK. The Jewish community here is suffering open attacks at the moment, triggered by outrage at the behaviour of the Israelis in Gaza. Sadly the UK and other European governments have done little more than to disapprove of what Israel has done in Gaza and have taken no real action. against Israel

Hamas is military organisation, by the definition they are not in the popularity contest. By the definition people who defend their own cause are violent. I am sure that Serbs call me violet, cruel and disgusting. I understand them , that's exactly what I tried to point out to them. After all I prefer my arse over theirs. So sympathy for Hamas is pretty natural.
Naturally as it was military operation, it calls like anywhere else military enquiry. But just like the technicallity.
Hamas didn't brag about the annihilation of the nation as whole, which Israelis did , even officially. Hamas and for that matter not any Islamic organisation ( maybe few Wahabi traitors) has ever called for the wholesale destruction of whole range of Civilizations.
So even if it is true, which is not , what you are saying it can be only pointed on the sporadic and minor elements of Hamas , but Judaism as religion and Jews as the races can be accused of whole range of the criminalites
Don't protest now , I am not the one who was talking, writing and doing all the nonsense that the Jews have.
By the way, I said many times before, no matter what I say , no matter the proofs, logic etc it doesn't make any difference whatsoever, I know that.
Basically , you are just recycling 500 " theory" . Of course " Halo good , Abdul bad" catch doesn't work so the next best thing " Both ,Shlomo and Abdul are equally bad". It is understandable though, what else you can say?

 

[mehmed beg]

Jewish community in Great Britain is illegal community by the rule of English law.
Edict of King Edward II from 1290 has never been resendent by the Parliament. That law deprived the Jews from living in Britain.
Some officials , like German for example, stated that killing the civilians in Gaza isn't the war crime.
So refering anything to such people is immaterial.
In any case , apart from Disraeli, Chamberlain and maybe Pitt The Younger governments , no British government has ever been truly independent from the Jewery.
Even Pitt The Younger played some dirty games with Danton.
There is no single Western government from ww2 that is independent, only Franco and De Gaulle , maybe these new in Ireland and Spain.