TR Land Vehicle Programs

[Combat-Master]

Arma-2 with 40t heavy armored beast with 720hp ecotorq engine became like a wheeled tank. Congratulations Otokar engineers and technicians.

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Finally, Otokar had to be smacked around a bit to get an engine that their parent company built into one of their products! Good going !
Now that turret needs to disappear for the Aselsan developed one.

 

[Fairon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620444089681608704

Someone made a photoshop.

 

[dBSPL]

ARMA II 8x8 armored vehicle

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620400127897931779

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620406674178850817

ARMA II is an amphibious combat vehicle designed with a maximum combat weight of 40 tons. It is my greatest wish that this vehicle, together with the 35/105/120 mm indigenous turrets, will pioneer the creation of an amphibious armored brigade.

 

[TheInsider]

Korhan turret will be set as a requirement by the SSB for the armored vehicle tender. Arma-Arma-II can easily carry the Korhan turret. Ford-Otosan also works on a national transmission.

The max combat weight of Arma-II is 40t but I doubt TAF will use that configuration.

720hp engine is integrated into Arma-II and ready for serial production.

Ford Otosan, yerli Ecotorq şanzımanı tanıttı | Devir Saati

devirsaati.com

 

[TheInsider]

Then why havent it been used in Turkish IFV long ago?
Are there restrictions placed on it by Ford?

No Ford can't say a shit about a Turkish product. No US-patented components were used inside the engine.

 

[Tsenal]

ARMA II brochure

https://defense.otokar.com.tr/OtokarSavunma/media/Otokar-Savunma/arac-brosur/ARMA-II-8X8-TR-BR-(AZ83TA-23)-onizleme-2.pdf

 

[Fuzuli NL]

ARMA II is an amphibious combat vehicle designed with a maximum combat weight of 40 tons. It is my greatest wish that this vehicle, together with the 35/105/120 mm indigenous turrets, will pioneer the creation of an amphibious armored brigade.

Doesn't mention amphibious in the brochure though.
Also I didn't see any propellers in the rear of the vehicle like it is with other amphibious vehicles we use.

 

[Osman]

It's Ford-Otosan Ecotorq engine, it's designed and built in Turkey.

Ecotorq Engine Family

Developed entirely by Turkish engineers in as little as four years, the new generation Ecotorq Eu6 engine family won the Grand Prize at the Technology Awards organized by Turkish Scientific and Technological Research Council (TUBITAK), the Technology Development Foundation of Turkey (TTGV), and t...

www.fordotosan.com.tr

İncluding with its transmission indeed. The transmission was designed and has been producing locally. I dont understand why the transmission of this one is not local

 

[Huelague]

ARMA II is an amphibious combat vehicle designed with a maximum combat weight of 40 tons. It is my greatest wish that this vehicle, together with the 35/105/120 mm indigenous turrets, will pioneer the creation of an amphibious armored brigade.

@Afif ..

 

[TheInsider]

İncluding with its transmission indeed. The transmission was designed and has been producing locally. I dont understand why the transmission of this one is not local

The national transmission project is going on it is not ready yet.

 

[Osman]

Then why havent it been used in Turkish IFV long ago?
Are there restrictions placed on it by Ford?

Otosan truck is completely Turkish. They just have an agreement with ford they can use its name and export the truck. The truck is %90 indigenous and designed by otosan truck itself. Ford can't have any restriction on otosan trucks and its components. The engine and its transmission which is completely turkish design has been in serial production aince 2020 2021 respectiveley as far as I know

İlk yerli şanzıman Ecotorq ile Türkiye'deki en yerli araç oldu | Otoajanda

Türkiye'nin en büyük ihracatçısı, 5 yıldır üzerinde çalıştığı 58 milyon avro yatırım yaptığı ilk yerli şanzıman Ecotorq projesini tamamladı.

www.otoajanda.com

 

[Osman]

The national transmission project is going on it is not ready yet.

I mean the transmission of otosan truck which is compatible with ecotorq

 

[Huelague]

Doesn't mention amphibious in the brochure though.
Also I didn't see any propellers in the rear of the vehicle like it is with other amphibious vehicles we use.

I cant seen any propeller also.

 

[Afif]

@Afif ..

Yeah, but i am waiting official confirmation.
I mean, it could very well swim. But unlikely in the maximum weight configuration.

 

[Stuka]

 

[Heartbang]

Korhan turret will be set as a requirement by the SSB for the armored vehicle tender.

Will they mount ATGM's onto that turret?

 

[dBSPL]

Doesn't mention amphibious in the brochure though.
Also I didn't see any propellers in the rear of the vehicle like it is with other amphibious vehicles we use.

Right, I misunderstood the statements of Otokar General Manager Serdar Görgüç. When I checked the article again, I realized that he was talking about ARMA I. I apologize for the incorrect info. https://www.savunmatr.com/savunma-s...-ailesinin-yeni-uyesi-arma-ii-8x8-h19440.html Then let me correct my expression as follows: The vehicle I want to see, ofc under marine corps.

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1620444089681608704

Someone made a photoshop.

Why that when a better one exists already, Roketsan's MZK Turret

 

[Afif]

Right, I misunderstood the statements of Otokar General Manager Serdar Görgüç. When I checked the article again, I realized that he was talking about ARMA I. I apologize for the incorrect info. https://www.savunmatr.com/savunma-s...-ailesinin-yeni-uyesi-arma-ii-8x8-h19440.html Then let me correct my expression as follows: The vehicle I want to see, ofc under marine corps.

Anyway, your idea was really good given the higher protection level and combat weight of ARMA II it could very well act as light tank with an 105mm turret.
I am particularly interested in this idea of having an amphibious armor or combined arms brigade because of the very unique nature of our geography
I mean, given BDs small landscape basically host the world largest river delta it is quite hard for both defending force as well as the invaders to move around heavy armor fast and effectively.

In that case, combined arms amphibious brigades with higher level of protection and fire power than usual mechanized infantry, can very well capitalized on its superior and uninterrupted mobility through land and water to deliver surprise counter attacks/perform unmatched mobile defense against a numerically superior enemy.

 

[Fairon]

Why that when a better one exists already, Roketsan's MZK Turret
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There is no photoshopable image of MZK turret

I just like to give me general idea of how it will be look with an high caliber turret. Otherwise I agree, MZK turret will be much better if we can put on it.