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I've been asking this question for years, still no proper response..
Thousands influencers(lawyers,politicians , academicians etc..) employed by hundreds of NGOs in Turkiye financed by certain Germany based foundation(foundations happens be long arms of Washington's foreign policy).This is what peak democracy exactly is.
 
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I've been asking this question for years, still no proper response..

because the state endorses it, some guy says "fool" jail. an entire political party sides with the direct enemies of the state let alone the PKK terrorists and they are free to roam openly. Wake up Turks, wake up.
 

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Thousands influencers(lawyers,politicians etc..) employed by hundreds of NGOs in Turkiye financed by certain Germany based foundations , foundations happens be long arms of Washington's foreign policy.Democracy at its best.
Also right-wing politicians high on aşiret vote
 

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Curious. What caused them to suddenly take such an approach?

No, that's a foolish assumption. Political power is also key, it works in tandem with brute force.

You are talking about libya where backstabbing is normal.

Military power is key.

Libyans can force us out but we will wreck havoc on them before they start to eject us out of there.
 

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You are talking about libya where backstabbing is normal.

Military power is key.

Libyans can force us out but we will wreck havoc on them before they start to eject us out of there.
What makes you assume backstabbing is normal in Libya? What is this obsession with some commenters on here, not going to name names, with espousing the virtues of military force anytime a country does something that Turkey doesn't like? Use military force on your actual enemies, don't try to apply it like a hammer to every instance and pretend that political power isn't something equally as important.
 

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Curious. What caused them to suddenly take such an approach?

No, that's a foolish assumption. Political power is also key, it works in tandem with brute force.

As long as the Turkish army is in Libya she has political power there. These underhanded games are going to continue against Turkey because the Turks crushed their plans to use their warlord to occupy the entire nation. So from a Turkish perspective to increase her political leverage she must increase her military presence on the ground. Hence why i say all that matters in Libya is power on the ground, no power no political leverage.

Turkey had to stop towards central Libya in the defence of libya, that was the extent at which her power could successfully project. Once we start moving longer range air defence systems, rocket guided artillery and bigger drones, the dynamics can chance yet again.

For Turkey everything is a time game, were not a nation whose going to build these weapons to sit on our dicks we are going to project as much as possible given our capabilities. This is why the games against Turkey have become more intense, because the americans, russians and europeans know exactly whats coming.
 

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Its worth keeping in mind that the legitimate government is only really supported by Turkiye. Haftar is supported by France, Russia, Greece, Gulf states, Egypt, Assad and Iran.

France uses EU mechanisms to support Haftar and harm the legitimate government of Libya as was witnessed with operation irini, where Haftar could still get weapons but they were trying to stop Turkey from supporting the government of libya. If you remember there was even an incident where French warships tried to block Turkish ships and if the french are to be believed the Turks locked onto their ships and told them to f'off out the way. This is believed to be the incident caused macron to go on his anti NATO tirade. There was also the incident where the germans boarded a Turkish boat on its way to Libya.

So even if we were good politically speaking, its not going to cover the political clout that the opposing sides coalition brings. France brings the EU with her, Russia with the Iranian axis is another problem, then you have all the gulf money bribing everyone and anyone they can. So what really matters for Turkey is her direct power on the ground, thats what won us the first round in Libya. More rounds are going to come.
 

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Its worth keeping in mind that the legitimate government is only really supported by Turkiye. Haftar is supported by France, Russia, Greece, Gulf states, Egypt, Assad and Iran.

France uses EU mechanisms to support Haftar and harm the legitimate government of Libya as was witnessed with operation irini, where Haftar could still get weapons but they were trying to stop Turkey from supporting the government of libya. If you remember there was even an incident where French warships tried to block Turkish ships and if the french are to be believed the Turks locked onto their ships and told them to f'off out the way. This is believed to be the incident caused macron to go on his anti NATO tirade. There was also the incident where the germans boarded a Turkish boat on its way to Libya.

So even if we were good politically speaking, its not going to cover the political clout that the opposing sides coalition brings. France brings the EU with her, Russia with the Iranian axis is another problem, then you have all the gulf money bribing everyone and anyone they can. So what really matters for Turkey is her direct power on the ground, thats what won us the first round in Libya. More rounds are going to come.
Man every time Türkiye is somewhere its always Türkiye vs multiple other nations. The clowns don't dare to come alone I guess.
 

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Man every time Türkiye is somewhere its always Türkiye vs multiple other nations. The clowns don't dare to come alone I guess.
Man, we are the real clowns. Time and time again we try to use soft power to fix things that so obviously require hard power.

Haftar should've been crucified by now. Same with Assad and al-Sisi.
 

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Man every time Türkiye is somewhere its always Türkiye vs multiple other nations. The clowns don't dare to come alone I guess.

Its a similar problem the Ottomans faced, most of there wars were against coalitions. Or if we happened to fight one guy another guy saw it as an opportunity to attack us. This geography is terrible in that sense, you are surrounded 360% by potential foes.

If you look at all the games taking place against Turkey in the eastern med sea, you kind of realise how critical it was for Turkiye to stop the illegal greek annexation of cyprus. I would hate to imagine that we would be dealing with these games while the greeks had the entirety of cyprus and filled it with british, french and american bases to be directed against the Turkish mainland.

Whats clear to me is that the more the Turkish army expands outwards, the safer and stronger Turkiye becomes.
 
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Its a similar problem the Ottomans faced, most of there wars were against coalitions. Or if we happened to fight one guy another guy saw it as an opportunity to attack us. This geography is terrible in that sense, you are surrounded 360% by potential foes.
One can imagine that the reason for Syrian operation delay is a probability for Greek attack or 12 mile declaration while we are busy incinerating PKK.
 

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One can imagine that the reason for Syrian operation delay is a probability for Greek attack or 12 mile declaration while we are busy incinerating PKK.

I don't think Turkiye is worried by a greek attack, look at how much shit Russia has thrown against Ukraine over a year of warfare and the Ukrainian war machine continues to push them out. A greek attack against Turkey would just cause the greeks to lose a shit load of war material which would then open them up easier for the Turkish retaliation.

The problem in Syria is that the USA and Russia are allied together against us, the moment we move we have to anticipate a unified retalition not only from the USA and Russia, but also the EU. At a bare minimum i expect all of them to announce sanctions. They may even strike our military, Russia doesn't really worry me they are joke, but the USA is big big problem. And while all of this is happening the entire corrupt international media is going to conduct a media onslaught with stories about Turks committing genocide on "the Kurds, the USA's major ally in the fight against Isis".

Interestingly enough both Russia and the USA behave exactly the same way against us when we move on them. When the Turks downed the Russian jet, the Russians ran to stories about Turks being behind Isis. When we moved on american positions it was about the kurdish fight against isis and how Turkey is helping Isis.

Everyone except Turkey and the legitimate rebel cause won from isis. The Russians, the americans, the pkk, assad, iran all benefited from the emergence of isis. Only Turkey and the rebels lost from it. Only Turkey has been accused by all of them of being behind isis.
 

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