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The most Tuareg guys you can find in whole Africa :ROFLMAO:

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Things are going badly for Mali's coup government. JNIM militants entered country's sole international airport in capital Bamako, set fire to the presidential 737.


Bamako airport is also home to Mali's TB2 and Su-25 contingent. Wagner militants were based in the airport in the past. One TB2 was seen taking off from the airport.



There are also unsubstantiated rumors of Sadat mercenaries being hit, Wagner being hit and TB2s being struck on the ground, with no proof to back them up.
 

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Which genius thought it was a good idea to sell TB2s to a failed state?
 

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Important development.

Instructor team working for Canik Academy provided training for Malian Armed Forces personnel in Bamako.

When we look at the Canik Academy staff we see that a big part of the instructors working there were previously part of the Turkish Navy's SOF (SAT). One of the instructors we see in the video is the director of the Canik Academy which is Ismail Dut. Ismail Dut is the 2015-2021 SAT Chief Instructor. He was active in SAT till 2021 and retired.

 

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Important development.

Instructor team working for Canik Academy provided training for Malian Armed Forces personnel in Bamako.

When we look at the Canik Academy staff we see that a big part of the instructors working there were previously part of the Turkish Navy's SOF (SAT). One of the instructors we see in the video is the director of the Canik Academy which is Ismail Dut. Ismail Dut is the 2015-2021 SAT Chief Instructor. He was active in SAT till 2021 and retired.


After Wagner getting its as kicked numerous time in Mali by both Tuareg and Islamist militias. Malians no longer see them as reliable.

Will see what training the Turks will offer. Because Mali's problems all stem from the top to the bottom hence why they are not a effective fighting force.
 
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Because Malis problems all stem from the top to the bottom hence why they are not a effective fighting force.
Indeed, and by per the tweet, this is just training for the presidential guard so nothing changes. This I believe will be too little too late.

A private company can't give the kind of training you are thinking about. Somali model with the Gorgor commandos is confirmed to be working. If you want an actual unified fighting force, an army, get in touch with the Turkish army, not Canik.
 

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After Wagner getting its as kicked nunerous time in Mali by both Tuareg and Islamist militias. Malians no longer see them as reliable.

Will see what training the Turks will offer. Because Malis problems all stem from the top to the bottom hence why they are not a effective fighting force.
This is not the kind of training that will turn the tides.

This can greatly improve the individual skills of these soldiers and make them work better as a team in certain scenarios by implementing the tactics and techniques, including reworking SOPs on the basis of the newly transferred information and obtained additional skills.

Even if you have the best teams specialized in small unit tactics if they are not utilized as they should and they lack the needed support, they can't do anything meaningful.

War requires a coordinated effort, utilizing the different components of the forces you have at your disposal the best way possible. People thought that TB-2s will also be enough. Well, the reality is far from these assumptions...
 

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This is not the kind of training that will turn the tides.

This can greatly improve the individual skills of these soldiers and make them work better as a team in certain scenarios by implementing the tactics and techniques, including reworking SOPs on the basis of the newly transferred information and obtained additional skills.

Even if you have the best teams specialized in small unit tactics if they are not utilized as they should and they lack the needed support, they can't do anything meaningful.

War requires a coordinated effort, utilizing the different components of the forces you have at your disposal the best way possible. People thought that TB-2s will also be enough. Well, the reality is far from these assumptions...

As much as conventional training is important but the Tuaregs and the Islamist terror groups all operate with unconventional means which really makes it hard for a conventional army to take care.

Not to mention vastness of Mali along with numerous tribal groups.

Sending in modern armies will not cut it. France won the conventional war but it got bogged down in a insurgency which made them quit. They constantly had to contend with the incompetence of the Malians. Malians are even fighting among themselves.

Its a true shitshow. I feel like proper training and the use of technicals and mraps are much more useful than tanks and infantry soldiers.

Best example of how Chad beat Libya as they used Toyotas which were much more suitable than tanks in wiping out the Libyan army.
 

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