TR Marine Mavi Vatan (Blue Homeland)

[Ghost soldier]

The original source is Die Welt,a German newspaper.

Türkei: Erdogans Kalkül hinter dem Streit mit Griechenland - WELT

Im östlichen Mittelmeer droht eine militärische Eskalation zwischen Griechenland und der Türkei. Doch in Wahrheit geht es dem türkischen Präsidenten Erdogan nicht in erster Linie ums Erdgas. Seine nationalistische Rhetorik folgt einem ganz anderen Kalkül.

www.welt.de

Like the same one who said that oruç reis navtex was cancelled ? , whether German or Greek they have the same agenda

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

Folks, the author clearly serves an agenda (works for Springer AG) - I didn't have to research her for more than 2 minutes (in german). Just laughable -

https://www.lto.de/autoren/name/marion-sendker/


https://twitter.com/lamaridda?s=20
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1300900437407797249

In my years of life, I have rarely seen such a clear agenda - that reminds me of bush jr. And 9/11

 

[Saithan]

They’re working towards containing Turkey. If we had better dialog with our Arab neighbors their plan would have been more difficult. But with weak economy it’s going to be difficult to fight it off. We got no countermeasure.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1300368337990569984

Cihat Yayci comments on Meis

 

[TR_123456]

They’re working towards containing Turkey. If we had better dialog with our Arab neighbors their plan would have been more difficult. But with weak economy it’s going to be difficult to fight it off. We got no countermeasure.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1300368337990569984

Cihat Yayci comments on Meis

Since 2005 our foreign policy was a joke,many mistakes and wrong choices.
PKK peace deal,what did it bring?
Syria operations(all three unfinished)4 million refugee burden,Russia ''foe'' then ''friend'' and now,what exactly?
Israel from ally to enemy,for what exactly,for fvcking Hamas?
Was it worth it?
The US,good relations with Trump instead of the Pentagon or the CIA,what did it bring?
No F-35,no turboshaft engines,secret weapons embargo.
Choosing Morsi in Egypt,what did it bring?
Working with the KRG,what did it bring?
Supporting Irans Nuclear deal,what did it bring?
Libya operation,again unfinished.
If your foreign policy sucks,you suck.

 

[Turko]

They might have misunderstood. Vice versa Erdoğan must have stopped Generals sinking some ships Turkish officers have always been keen on Greeks.

 

[Nilgiri]

Dunno if it was posted before here, but mover was not too moved....though he is consistent w.r.t earlier footage released by Greeks too.

 

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[Turko]

Dunno if it was posted before here, but mover was not too moved....though he is consistent w.r.t earlier footage released by Greeks too.

He didnt know meaning of 2 short 2 long

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301121070649536512

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301123195496472576

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301121070649536512

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301123195496472576

I have never experienced a more shameful behavior. A country that calls itself proud, a nation that owes all its achievements to its masters. To be honest, the GR people became extinct almost 2000 years ago. Today we have before us cowardly and deceitful people - we have before us people who only fed on the forces of others during the world wars - no, it is shameful behavior. It reminds me of children - who were beaten up in school at that time, stood behind the teacher, and shouted insults - then they were picked up from school by their parents and brought back to school in the morning. I'm totally serious - and in the same context, I would also talk about turkey, if there was an occasion like this. Both the Greeks and the Armenians, have the biggest flaps and nothing behind them, how can they even look into the mirror? A shame...
They can't fight and they don't dare. They'd get their ass kicked. Watch the internet and the media, my friends - they all tell lies AND KNOW THAT THEY LIE (nobody here should tell me that they don't know better). I would be so ashamed, I feel a serious lack of shame for these people. How honorless, how proudless and spineless must people be?

By God, I can't imagine that a truly nationalistic Greek is proud of such a cowardly behavior.
JUST THE FACT, that they keep asking openly in all media, all councils for direct help - armaments - financial support and troops on their ground - the fact that they are BEGGING for help is so... pathetic - it is a fckn SHAME - ON GOD! I have never witnessed such behavior of TR in my whole lifetime - NEVER! Not one single time - They are literally begging for HELP - and at the same time, they are threatening us? That is crazy -

That is why they're so good at what they are doing. Winning on international stage. Honesty has no place on global stage.

Just recently I read an update on India and China, skirmish, and India reacted correctly and proactively and got the mountain tops on 3 location. Now China is complaining, but I bet they're silently cursing that they didn't do it first. That is what politics is about. Do first and do right. Shut your mouth when your nation has no gain from it, silent as the grave.

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

That is why they're so good at what they are doing. Winning on international stage. Honesty has no place on global stage.

Just recently I read an update on India and China, skirmish, and India reacted correctly and proactively and got the mountain tops on 3 location. Now China is complaining, but I bet they're silently cursing that they didn't do it first. That is what politics is about. Do first and do right. Shut your mouth when your nation has no gain from it, silent as the grave.

Like I said - the Turks will never learn how diplomacy works... sad

 

[Saithan]

Like I said - the Turks will never learn how diplomacy works... sad

Well, Ecevit did back in 1974, Tansu did somewhat. I don't know enough about Turgut, Demirel and Erbakan to say anything.

 

[SkySpotter]

Turks can shoot down ruskie suchoj They are make it / break it for nato Didn't turkey pushed french frigate out of disputed waters recently? Isn't that the reason french AC carrier is heading to Emed? While macron makes" friends" with Lebanon? He is in Bagdad today isn't he

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

Turks can shoot down ruskie suchoj They are make it / break it for nato Didn't turkey pushed french frigate out of disputed waters recently? Isn't that the reason french AC carrier is heading to Emed? While macron makes" friends" with Lebanon? He is in Bagdad today isn't he

My friend, they did it in the name of the CIA aka FETO - for the deep state - why should TR shoot down a Russian fighter?
And the reason why France is sending its AC is for the sake of resources, delivering RAFs to Greece, and to pursue the agenda of neo-colonialism - like pushing Lebanon to form a new gov. who is France to push a sovereign country to form a new gov.?

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301057105139503104

 

[SkySpotter]

My friend, they did it in the name of the CIA aka FETO - for the deep state - why should TR shoot down a Russian fighter?
And the reason why France is sending its AC is for the sake of resources, delivering RAFs to Greece, and to pursue the agenda of neo-colonialism - like pushing Lebanon to form a new gov. who is France to push a sovereign country to form a new gov.?

Sure but MCs globalmasters landing in Turkey?
US needs Turkey to supply India and creating 3 fronts against China.? Maybe? Greeks had 0 support from us or nato +European Union gives again zero (attention) to Greece
What do you think?

 

[Captain_Azeri_76]

Sure but MCs globalmasters landing in Turkey?
US needs Turkey to supply India and creating 3 fronts against China.? Maybe? Greeks had 0 support from us or nato +European Union gives again zero (attention) to Greece
What do you think?

Assistance obligation on the basis of the EU treaty Article 42 (7) of the EU Treaty reads:

"In the event of an armed attack on the territory of a Member State, the other Member States owe it all assistance and assistance in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Charter Nations. This does not affect the specific nature/stance of the security and defense policies of certain Member States. The commitments and cooperation in this area remain in line with the commitments entered into within the framework of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), which for the member states remains the foundation of their collective defense and the instrument for their implementation."

- EU Treaty: Lisbon 2007

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This is an important point that is often left out here by many bros. Greece abuses EU membership and NATO's internal conflict, largely caused by France:

https://www.libyaobserver.ly/news/t...ing-libya-arrested-over-russian-linked-breach

 

[Anmdt]

When the problem against Turkiye , seeing Europeans not questioning all aspects is funny.
İ fully support stance of Turkish goverment however i hate Erdoğan. İt has been matter of the National rights for decades.Not political act of Erdoğan.

Whenever an alliance with Turkey has been spoken, i happen to see all Europeans are seeking democracy and freedom and debating over it, however when it is UAE or Saudi for cooperation or arms sale, nobody is questioning the matter,in contrast they congratulates these countries for tiny bit of showcased freedoms given to the people and close their eyes to not see the massacres they have made in arabian peninsula, africa or middle east.
If i were a european, i would feel disturbed deeply with presence of UAE within the coalition in East Med. They are quite unrelated and makes legality of the incident questionable.

 

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[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1301139882048401408

Timely diplomatic message by Russia.