Militarization of Aegean Islands

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The Dodecanese Islands got their name from the form of government implemented by the Ottoman Empire in non-Muslim regions. According to this system called 12, each ten households would appoint a representative, and these representatives would elect a "twelve-person council of elders" to govern the region. The Turkish name "Twelve Islands"; It was first translated into Greek and then translated into other Western languages.

In the group of islands called "Twelve Islands", there are not only twelve islands, as its name suggests. This island group, which is called the "Twelve Islands", has fourteen islands if only the large ones are counted, and more than twenty islands and islets if all of them are counted, whether large or small. These are called "Southern Sporade Islands" or "Southern Sporades". Also, each island has its own name. The number twelve here; It means "islands governed by a twelve-member assembly", not to express the number of islands.

In the Ottomans, it was called "Aegean Islands", then Algeria-i Bahr-i Sefid (Mediterranean Islands)" and "Cezair-i isna asher". Later on, the Mediterranean Islands, which were administrative provinces, were the Dodecanese Islands, such as Samos and Chios. It also included the remaining islands.

The Turks adapted some of these names to the dagger of Turkish, and gave some Turkish names. The name Rhodes remained as it was. Kasos became Kasot; Karpethos, Kerpe; Aliminya, Limoniye; Symi, Symi; Tilos, Ilyaki; Nisyros, Incirli; Mandraki, Yali; Kos, Kos; Astropalya, Koçbaba; Kalymnos, Kilimli; Kharki became Everyone; Patmos, Meis, Herke, Lipos, Leros are said as they are.

In European sources, the terms "Southern Sporades Islands" or "Southern Sporades" are used for the said group of islands.
 

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And Greece was captured. The M1117s were seen landing on the islands. What will happen now. What will Turkey do about it?



Is Greece knowingly and willingly giving these images so that Turkey can attack?



Does Mitsotakis want to be the new Volodymyr Zelensky?



Are the Greek people aware of the dangerous attempts of Mitsotakis, who has been criticized for being pro-US?
 
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Yes, there is a rehearsal in the Aegean Sea. But this rehearsal is physically owned by the Mitsotakis government.

My view is; in the background are the USA, France and Zionism.

It is the globalists who resist this situation.
 

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Today Anadolu Agency;

"Unacceptable"
Security sources described these events on 18 September and 21 September as the clearest indication that Greece continues to arm the islands close to Turkey and violate GASA status.

The sources, who stated that they are trying to plant weapons donated by the USA, in GASAs, evaluated these aggressive actions of Greece, which is an ally in NATO, against international law and the spirit of alliance, as "never acceptable" against the calls for dialogue and good neighborliness.

Emphasizing that Greece has violated the non-military status of these two islands for many years and deployed weapons there, security sources pointed out that with these latest shipments, the tactical wheeled armored vehicles donated by the USA have replaced some of the vehicles on these islands.

Recalling Turkey's efforts to resolve problems within the scope of dialogue and international law, as well as its invitations to come together for a solution, the sources said, "The fact that Greece does not even attend the meetings in response to all invitations and makes such provocations increases the tension, who is irreconcilable, aggressive and unlawful. It is a clear indication that he is engaged in activities.” made its assessment.
Even though it was Sunday, there was a sound from Ankara.
 

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I want to see more action from Ankara tomorrow against this provocation.

I wonder if the guns will hit these armored vehicles that landed on the islands tonight?

When I wake up in the morning, will the TVs be cheered by the news of declaring their place?

If things get hot, you need to get permission and go to the Aegean.
 

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any military piece of equipment or military personel is an asset to Türkiye. So they should continue.
 

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I want to see more action from Ankara tomorrow against this provocation.

I wonder if the guns will hit these armored vehicles that landed on the islands tonight?

When I wake up in the morning, will the TVs be cheered by the news of declaring their place?

If things get hot, you need to get permission and go to the Aegean.
Turkey is not ready yet,greece is just a pawn at this point. Any conflict will push Turkiye back and the sanctions will crash it(look at Iran). Don't get me wrong, Turkiye can overwhelm Greece,but will not get unscathed from the clash. It's not just the TFX,many programs need to come online. The TR defence industry needs to mature further and be able to go from A to Z. The Turkish leadership has decided to industrialize and innovate on par with the west. Until then,you guys will have to bite the bullet,just like you did in 1964(Johnson letter) and served as a motivation and preparation for 1974(Atila)
 

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Both leaders are heading towards an election, but cater to nationalist voters.
In a way they are both helping each other with the election campaign. And that's all there is to say, just provocations and exchange of words. There will be nothing more nothing less.
 

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Do you know the story of elephants and grass? Greece is grass, in this story.

Btw, Have you checked your mission mobilization(sge), guys? I suggest you check it out from e-devlet.
 

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Putin and his Turkish puppets pouring oil on fire because they just want this war.

Do you think Putin and Perinçek care about Turkish national security? Absolutely not they will just be fine if NATO countries attack each other.
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Remember until Lozan , Trakya was also demilitarized zone.. Turkish Army couldn't step Edirne, Kırklareli cities.

Thanks to Lozan, our Army in demilitarized zone. So i really don't care if Greek islands are militarized since the islands belong them.
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You can't restrict sovereignty of a country.

Edit: your history knowledge has been revealed.

First : until Montreax convention, Turkish Government ( Turkish parliament) was limited to keep army in Thrace subject to armistice of Mudanya.



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Putin and his Turkish puppets pouring oil on fire because they just want this war.

Do you think Putin and Perinçek care about Turkish national security? Absolutely not they will just be fine if NATO countries attack each other.
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Remember until Lozan, Trakya was also demilitarized zone.. Turkish Army couldn't step Edirne, Kırklareli cities.

Thanks to Lozan, our Army in demilitarized zone. So i really don't care if Greek islands are militarized since the islands belong them.
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You can't restrict sovereignty of a country.

Actually, sovereignity of a country could be restricted if sovereignity of areas provided under conditions.
Today they are sending armored vehicles, tomorrow they could Place sam batteries.
Problems with greeks is highly unlikely to be solved through diplomacy.
We do not need to occupy those islands, restoring lausanne, (3nm territorial waters, No continental shelf of islands, demilitarization, solving fir problems, acceptance of blue homeland) is sufficent. If it takes military action, we should go for it when its time comes.
 

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Actually, sovereignity of a country could be restricted if sovereignity of areas provided under conditions.
Today they are sending armored vehicles, tomorrow they could Place sam batteries.
Problems with greeks is highly unlikely to be solved through diplomacy.
We do not need to occupy those islands, restoring lausanne, (3nm territorial waters, No continental shelf of islands, demilitarization, solving fir problems, acceptance of blue homeland) is sufficent. If it takes military action, we should go for it when its time comes.
Then today why our sovereignty of Tracia isn't restricted? We took sovereignty of Tracia subject to conditions.
Thanks to Lozan ( which is considered as " Defeat" for nationalist and islamist Turks) we changed the condition!

If we changed , Greeks also could do it with the simple logic.
 
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Ukroturk;

Putin and his Turkish puppets pouring oil on fire because they just want this war.

Do you think Putin and Perinçek care about Turkish national security? Absolutely not they will just be fine if NATO countries attack each other

I do not know the accuracy of this thesis. My country's interests concern me.


Did you research the ukroturk, did the Greeks bring soldiers to the west of Thrace before us at that time?
 

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Then today why our sovereignty of Tracia isn't restricted? We took sovereignty of Tracia subject to conditions.
Thanks to Lozan ( which is considered as " Defeat" for nationalist and islamist Turks) we changed the condition!

If we changed , Greeks also could do it with the simple logic.

I checked two sources of treaty. Could you show me where Turkey subjected to demilitarization of Thrace please?
 

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If I were given an option in today's conditions, 1- Opening the central Asian land connection with Türkiye while Russia is weak?

2- Would you prefer the Aegean islands to be connected to Türkiye?

I would prefer the opening of the central Asian land connection with Türkiye.
 

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Broker; İki anlaşma kaynağını kontrol ettim. Trakya'nın silahsızlandırılmasına maruz kalan Türkiye'nin nerede olduğunu gösterir misiniz lütfen?

Likewise, it is a mistake and a lie that the Aegean army is forbidden.
 

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Turkey is not ready yet,greece is just a pawn at this point. Any conflict will push Turkiye back and the sanctions will crash it(look at Iran). Don't get me wrong, Turkiye can overwhelm Greece,but will not get unscathed from the clash. It's not just the TFX,many programs need to come online. The TR defence industry needs to mature further and be able to go from A to Z. The Turkish leadership has decided to industrialize and innovate on par with the west. Until then,you guys will have to bite the bullet,just like you did in 1964(Johnson letter) and served as a motivation and preparation for 1974(Atila)
Dear bylis, you may be right. What you say makes sense and possible possibilities.
 

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ukroturk ;
Putin and his Turkish puppets pouring oil on fire because they just want this war.

Do you think Putin and Perinçek care about Turkish national security? Absolutely not they will just be fine if NATO countries attack each other.


Dear ukroturk, For me, the interests of individuals or countries other than Türkiye have no value.

However, I think the win-win relationship is a useful method for the benefit of my country.

Again, as a requirement of my Turkishness and Islam, I am against the oppression and exploitation of people and nations.

At the moment, I do not think that my country is persecuting or exploiting another country or nation.

Regarding the politics in our countries, individuals and institutions come and go, the remaining Turk states and our religion.
 

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I checked two sources of treaty. Could you show me where Turkey subjected to demilitarization of Thrace please?
Why did you check the Loussanne Peace treaty?

Jesus Christ:) if the white Turks don't know their history, how could Türkiye deal with international problems?

Why on earth you should investigate "Lausanne peace treaty "which gave you more sovereignty?


İ will check all you at history?

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Answer it:)
 
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