TR Military Operations in Northern Iraq

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I don't think you should be lynched for this opinion. I think Ocalan has passed away or is about to, as there has been a contact ban for a year or more now. But yes, the sooner the conflict ends the more cards TR will have in the middle east, otherwise Iran will dominate.

That being said, it would be political suicide for any party to attempt a such a process at the moment, which is a handicap. Unless it's Erdogan, he can do what he wants.

Also whoever the interlocutor, it should definitely not be the traditionalists or the ones on the Iran line. In Syria, it should try unite the opposition with the PKK side at least to dilute PKK and extreme elements in the opposition.

A federal state like that of the USA, Switzerland or Germany has their benefits and its far better to live in a federation than to see a new Safavid Empire dominating the region together with Israel and blocking our oil supplies and trade routes.

Risks of a federation:

1.- Every state has their own laws.
2.- Every state has her own flag.
3.- Every state has her own police.
4.- Every state has a governor.


Benefits:

1.- If the State of Trabzon want to build a new airport, they dont have to wait for green light from the President in Ankara. The governor of Trabzon is the King in Trabzon.
2.- If the State of Istanbul wants to kick Syrian refugees out, than they have the right to do that. Governor Ekrem Imamoglu could even build a wall around Istanbul.
3.- Seperatist terrorism could come to and end, because every State gets a reasonable volume of autonomy.
4.- One Constitution for all.
5.- Federal institutions for interstate cases like Federal Police, Federal Court, Federal Railways, Federal Bank etc.
 

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Objective reality may be just that, but American public thinks Biden is responsible, except maybe his most ardent supporters.
I'd say it's more like 60/40 tbh but doesn't really matter. US public won't really care if they leave Syria, not a real point of contention.

This bodes ill for us guys. I believe dislodging Iranian proxies will be a priority in the following years
This I agree with. Even in the best case scenario, US leaves it all, keeps carriers in the Med for Israel and in Red Sea for convoys, and we try to go toe to toe with an emboldened Iran.
 

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A federal state like that of the USA, Switzerland or Germany has their benefits and its far better to live in a federation than to see a new Safavid Empire dominating the region together with Israel and blocking our oil supplies and trade routes.

Risks of a federation:

1.- Every state has their own laws.
2.- Every state has her own flag.
3.- Every state has her own police.
4.- Every state has a governor.


Benefits:

1.- If the State of Trabzon want to build a new airport, they dont have to wait for green light from the President in Ankara. The governor of Trabzon is the King in Trabzon.
2.- If the State of Istanbul wants to kick Syrian refugees out, than they have the right to do that. Governor Ekrem Imamoglu could even build a wall around Istanbul.
3.- Seperatist terrorism could come to and end, because every State gets a reasonable volume of autonomy.
4.- One Constitution for all.
5.- Federal institutions for interstate cases like Federal Police, Federal Court, Federal Railways, Federal Bank etc.
Then in a moment of weakness (istanbul earthquake for example) the State of Kurdistan does a referandum for independence. US declares a no flight zone in the east and they are GONE. Access to Azerbaijan gone, any power projection into the fertile crescent gone, Tigris and Euphrates gone.

Think bro, think.
 

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Very serious developments!

Today two trucks carrying supplies to the PKK passed again trough the same logistics corridor from Gara towards the village of Sergele. They were hit and destroyed in the previously emptied village of Mije.


After these developments PKK attacked Peshmerga control point close to the village of Sergele. After the initial attack they attacked the position with an RPG. There are wounded on both of the sides in results of the fighting.

KRG Interior statement:

"𝐀𝐝𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐒𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐀𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐦𝐩𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐊𝐊

Media affiliated with the PKK have falsely claimed that they were attacked by Peshmerga forces in Amedi district.

We clarify to the people of Kurdistan and all Kurdistanis around the world that PKK gunmen on 24 January 2024, tens of kilometres away from the Turkish border in the Amêdi region, without regard for the official and legal institutions of the region, infiltrated a Zerevani checkpoint and subsequently launched a rocket attack on it.

Zerevani Peshmerga forces defended themselves from their positions.

The PKK gunmen's actions align with a pattern of attacks and destabilizing activities, seeking to undermine the security and stability of the Kurdistan Region.

Unfortunately, they have become integral to regional plans challenging the sovereignty of Kurdistan.

Kurdistan Region will not be an arena for resolving regional conflicts and supports all peaceful efforts and initiatives to resolve issues and consolidate peace and security.

However, we reserve the right to defend our forces and will resolutely oppose any attempt to target the Kurdistan Region and its official institutions."
 

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Iran has numerous separatist problems.

Why arent we emboldening Southern Azerbaijanis to rise up against the Khomeini State.

Turkiye and Iran are going to clash in the future lets be honest. Right now Iran is getting the upper hand.

Whats with Turkish Islamists constantly cucking for Iranians? They are Sunnis and the Secratarian Iranian state will wipe them out when the time comes. We seen how Shia militias committed numerous atrocities against Sunnis in Iraq they justified it by saying they are Saddam supporters or Isis members.

Necmettin Erbakan was stupid for thinking Iran will be a great friend for Turkiye even including them in the D8.
 

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They have lost their identity and minds, they are like dogs looking for an owner. They are lost causes...

Its hilarious seeing Turkish liberals, Turkish Islamists and Turkish Kemalists just cucking for someone. Turkish leftists cuck for Russia or China.

None of them want to put their nation first.

Its pathetic to be honest. They should stop trying to suck up to any nation regardless if its Saudi, Iran, Israel, EU and the USA.

They should put Turkiye first.
 

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There was news that the USA would withdraw from Iraq and Syria

Pentagon officially announced that Iraq withdrawal talks will begin in the coming days

Iraq wants a definite period for withdrawal, the USA puts forward three factors independent of time:

•DAEŞ threat
•Operational and environmental requirements
•Capability levels of Iraqi security forces


The US withdrawal plan from Iraq has become official.
 

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Iran has numerous separatist problems.

Why arent we emboldening Southern Azerbaijanis to rise up against the Khomeini State.

Turkiye and Iran are going to clash in the future lets be honest. Right now Iran is getting the upper hand.

Whats with Turkish Islamists constantly cucking for Iranians? They are Sunnis and the Secratarian Iranian state will wipe them out when the time comes. We seen how Shia militias committed numerous atrocities against Sunnis in Iraq they justified it by saying they are Saddam supporters or Isis members.

Necmettin Erbakan was stupid for thinking Iran will be a great friend for Turkiye even including them in the D8.

There is no organization in southern Azerbaijan that is like the PKK or something, civilians are very disorganised which makes it easy to target dissidents and eliminate them quickly
 

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Today we have another serious development.

The Turkish Air Forces hit a farm in the village of Sergele which is under the Matin Mountain. Yesterday we hit two trucks with supplies that were going to Sergele from Gara and Peshmerga control point was attacked by PKK in the village. Looks like today TSK gave even clearer message.

 

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This would help us achieve some level of deterrence. What we lack compared to the Iranians are the militias.

We have double digit number of military bases in the north of Iraq. Their strength and coordinates are known while Iran operates "underground". They don't have military bases. They have ghosts.

I am very sorry we missed our chances with the Turkmen based on sectarianism. If we did what we had to do in 2001, then continued efforts and support the Turkmen now we wouldn't have needed to discuss at least the half of the problems we discuss, but unfortunately we were busy pleasing the US all these years.
Not to forget the growing tarikats in Turkey. They’re imo indirect helping hand to Iran. So it’d be in our interest to have kill teams that just snuff them out. Dead people can’t cause trouble, complainers can be silenced and the rest will be monitored and dealt with accordingly.

The situation is even more dangerous because government doesn’t seem to do a thing against tarikats.
 

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PKK's statement on yesterday's clashes with Peshmerga.

The Press Centre of the People's Defence Forces (HPG) issued a statement on the attack by a KDP unit on a guerrilla group in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. According to the statement, a guerrilla group was travelling in two cars towards Girê Amêdiyê at around eleven o'clock on 24 January when they were ambushed and attacked by KDP forces in the district of Sergelê. The attackers had been waiting for the guerrilla group in a vehicle with a heavy machine gun. The guerrillas then left their cars and shot back. A battle broke out, after which Turkish surveillance drones showed up.

"Two of our friends were injured by shots fired by the KDP. Our cars became unusable due to the shelling and had to be left behind. They were later bombed by Turkish warplanes," said the HPG, denying the Turkish Ministry of Interior's account of the incident: "The Ministry of Interior's statement on the issue is a complete distortion of the facts. The battle broke out due to the ambush laid against our forces. It is a disgrace that a Kurdish force put itself at the service of the Turkish state and attacked the guerrillas while they were resisting the occupation of Kurdistan. We hope that this situation will not be repeated, and we will continue to behave responsibly despite everything," emphasized the HPG.
 

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Then in a moment of weakness (istanbul earthquake for example) the State of Kurdistan does a referandum for independence. US declares a no flight zone in the east and they are GONE. Access to Azerbaijan gone, any power projection into the fertile crescent gone, Tigris and Euphrates gone.

Think bro, think.

Look at the US now.

The President of the US wants more Mexicans and other immigrants to the country so that they could vote for him.

The Governor of Texas said no and build a wire fence at the border with Mexico.

The President sends the Federal Border Patrol to remove the wire.

The Governor mobilized the National Guard and the State Police and drove the Federal Border Patrol back.

The President then goes to the Supreme Court and gives the Governor a deadline for removing the fence.

The Governor declares State Emergency and accuses the President of harming the constitutional rights of the Federal States (that can result in a impeachment of the President) because every State has the right to defend its self against the Federal Government and foreign invasions.

And 25 other States declared that they support Texas and that they will send their own National Guards to defend Texas.

A Federation is the best way to protect your citizens against a incompetent President.
 

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Look at the US now.

The President of the US wants more Mexicans and other immigrants to the country so that they could vote for him.

The Governor of Texas said no and build a wire fence at the border with Mexico.

The President sends the Federal Border Patrol to remove the wire.

The Governor mobilized the National Guard and the State Police and drove the Federal Border Patrol back.

The President then goes to the Supreme Court and gives the Governor a deadline for removing the fence.

The Governor declares State Emergency and accuses the President of harming the constitutional rights of the Federal States (that can result in a impeachment of the President) because every State has the right to defend its self against the Federal Government and foreign invasions.

And 25 other States declared that they support Texas and that they will send their own National Guards to defend Texas.

A Federation is the best way to protect your citizens against a incompetent President.
Turkey was founded after a fractured Ottoman Empire with lessons learned therein shaping its establishment.
 

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Turkey was founded after a fractured Ottoman Empire with lessons learned therein shaping its establishment.
Apparently, researcher Engin Avchy learned the “lessons of history” in a very original way(y)He published a map of Türkiye 2025.
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