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It has nothing to do with the generals and everything to do with their "commander" who needs votes from terrorist sympathizers to cling onto his power just a bit longer. And all this will lead to is more death in the future.

In case anyone forgot, this isn't even the first time in the last 2 decades that terrorists have been coddled and even brought into this country as if they were anything other than murderers who deserve to be put down. That happened around the referendum and that was the first steps of where we ended up today. A country plundered of its riches and resources for the select few while its ordinary citizens suffer more and more every year.
İ dont think it has to do with 'commander' Turkiye is not israel that kills babies everyday and nothing happens to them 0 embargo 0 sanctions , İn eyes of west Turkiye is like Russia or worse , So if Turkiye bomb them in mass , all western powers will rise and put sanctions both economically and militarily and knowing the actual Turkish economy , We cant do nothing .... Thats aslo why we aslo make 'peace' with terrorists .
 

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Thats aslo why we aslo make 'peace' with terrorists .
That's utter and complete bullshit.

The only reason Öcalan is being released and terrorists are coming down from their caves openly is because Erdoğan needs votes again. He did the same thing before 2013 referendum when he needed the votes to consolidate his power and now he is doing it again because he needs the votes because his power is slipping away from him.

Last time he did this, terrorists turned the southeastern part of Turkey into a fortress and our soldiers had to fight through street by street to clear them out. The same thing will happen again, terrorists will regroup, start fortifying their positions and our soldiers will pay the price for this.

I'll be very blunt, anyone who fails to see all of this being done for the good of one man and one man alone is wilfully ignorant cultists that cannot see the obvious truth right in front of their eyes because of their blind obedience and worship to Erdoğan.
 
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İ dont think it has to do with 'commander' Turkiye is not israel that kills babies everyday and nothing happens to them 0 embargo 0 sanctions , İn eyes of west Turkiye is like Russia or worse , So if Turkiye bomb them in mass , all western powers will rise and put sanctions both economically and militarily and knowing the actual Turkish economy , We cant do nothing .... Thats aslo why we aslo make 'peace' with terrorists .
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AKP makes peace with PKK a second time and those pathetic bootlickers are still pulling out made up stories from where the sun doesn't shine. National security is above economy and everything else ma little fella but those guys you worship are creating a threat for the nation for votes i.e only to stay longer in power.

You people are not only spineless, but also shameless...
 

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İ dont think it has to do with 'commander' Turkiye is not israel that kills babies everyday and nothing happens to them 0 embargo 0 sanctions , İn eyes of west Turkiye is like Russia or worse , So if Turkiye bomb them in mass , all western powers will rise and put sanctions both economically and militarily and knowing the actual Turkish economy , We cant do nothing .... Thats aslo why we aslo make 'peace' with terrorists .

Erdogan the Clown wants to stay in power. Clown will burn down his entire country just to rule the ashes.

Opposition are no better they are also clowns. Thanks to all of them another 1980s coup will be coming mark my words.

Those tarikats with their yesil sariks wont be coming down the sky to save them either.
 

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obvious truth right in front of their eyes because of their blind obedience and worship to Erdoğan.
Reducing everything to “Erdoğan just wants to get re-elected” is just lazy thinking. I call it “reductio ad Erdoganum”—turning every event into some grand plot by the “evil Erdoğan.” The world is shaking, the region is being reshaped, and yet many in the opposition keep repeating this same shallow line.

Of course Erdoğan is a politician, and like any politician he has elections in mind. But to act like everything starts and ends with that is absurd. A process of this scale, involving so many state institutions and political actors, simply can’t be reduced to an election stunt. The last peace process actually weakened the AK Party and cost it the ability to rule alone. If anything, making such a risky move could backfire and wipe out the government’s own power. And let’s be serious—do people really think a 77-year-old Bahçeli is risking his entire political legacy just to help Erdoğan win? That’s laughable.

Look at the timing: the October 7 Aqsa Flood, Bahçeli’s moves, the shifts in Syria, Iran losing ground… none of this is coincidence. Deals are clearly being made behind closed doors, and a new regional order is being designed. Of course, powers like Israel will try to sabotage it, because a terror-free Turkey with regional hegemony is their nightmare.

So why all this defeatism at home? The Turkish military is right there. Offering an olive branch doesn’t mean we don’t know how to swing the stick. I’m not blindly optimistic—past failures and hostile actors keep me cautious—but I’m not hopeless either. Whether people like it or not, history is moving in Turkey’s direction.
 
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Reducing everything to “Erdoğan just wants to get re-elected” is just lazy thinking. I call it “reductio ad Erdoganum”—turning every event into some grand plot by the “evil Erdoğan.” The world is shaking, the region is being reshaped, and yet many in the opposition keep repeating this same shallow line.

Of course Erdoğan is a politician, and like any politician he has elections in mind. But to act like everything starts and ends with that is absurd. A process of this scale, involving so many state institutions and political actors, simply can’t be reduced to an election stunt. The last peace process actually weakened the AK Party and cost it the ability to rule alone. If anything, making such a risky move could backfire and wipe out the government’s own power. And let’s be serious—do people really think a 77-year-old Bahçeli is risking his entire political legacy just to help Erdoğan win? That’s laughable.

Look at the timing: the October 7 Aqsa Flood, Bahçeli’s moves, the shifts in Syria, Iran losing ground… none of this is coincidence. Deals are clearly being made behind closed doors, and a new regional order is being designed. Of course, powers like Israel will try to sabotage it, because a terror-free Turkey with regional hegemony is their nightmare.

So why all this defeatism at home? The Turkish military is right there. Offering an olive branch doesn’t mean we don’t know how to swing the stick. I’m not blindly optimistic—past failures and hostile actors keep me cautious—but I’m not hopeless either. Whether people like it or not, history is moving in Turkey’s direction.
Lots of words and theories to just avoid dealing with the truth, it is kind of sad to see really. There is no conspiracy theory lad, it is a simple fact that he did this before when he needed votes and now, he needs them even more so he is doing it again. It's not a "stunt" it's a desperate attempt to cling onto power, releasing Öcalan is not a "stunt" it is a fucking capitulation of highest order and an insult every single soldier and civilians that has been slaughtered at his orders!

And Bahçeli has been Erdoğan's little pet for years now, how on earth did you miss that one? Using him as an example just shows how far you're reaching just to not see what's in front of you. I feel really sad for you, you cannot even realize that you are trapped in a cult of personality.

Turkish military is right here, yes, just as they were there the last time clean up afterwards. Were you there when the military cleaned southeast the last time lad? Did you go one street from another, slept in basements with dozens of others, watch people die? Did you see first hand how they turned our own land into a fortress against us? Turkish military should not be a fucking clean up crew so that politicians can keep their power indefinitely.
 

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Lots of words and theories to just avoid dealing with the truth, it is kind of sad to see really. There is no conspiracy theory lad, it is a simple fact that he did this before when he needed votes and now, he needs them even more so he is doing it again. It's not a "stunt" it's a desperate attempt to cling onto power, releasing Öcalan is not a "stunt" it is a fucking capitulation of highest order and an insult every single soldier and civilians that has been slaughtered at his orders!

And Bahçeli has been Erdoğan's little pet for years now, how on earth did you miss that one? Using him as an example just shows how far you're reaching just to not see what's in front of you. I feel really sad for you, you cannot even realize that you are trapped in a cult of personality.

Turkish military is right here, yes, just as they were there the last time clean up afterwards. Were you there when the military cleaned southeast the last time lad? Did you go one street from another, slept in basements with dozens of others, watch people die? Did you see first hand how they turned our own land into a fortress against us? Turkish military should not be a fucking clean up crew so that politicians can keep their power indefinitely.
You call it “truth,” but what you’re really doing is repeating the same lazy, desperate formula: whatever happens in Turkey = Erdoğan gains votes. (Despite the fact that the last çözüm süreci turned out to be disaster for Erdoğan and his party.)

And your take on Bahçeli just shows you don’t know Turkish politics. Bahçeli is older than Erdoğan in political life. He has survived and shaped Turkish politics for decades, always punching above his small vote share. He read the balance of power perfectly when he pushed for the presidential system—handing Erdoğan the presidency but, in return, making himself indispensable. Since then, he has dictated government policy in foreign and security matters exactly as he wanted. He filled the state bureucracy with his followers. If anyone is a “pet” here, it’s not Bahçeli. It’s Erdoğan following Bahçeli’s line. What Bahçeli wants, happens. What Bahçeli doesn’t want, never happens.

And as for your “cult” accusation—look in the mirror. You’re the one trapped in a cult, not me. It’s not the Erdoğan cult. It’s the anti-Erdoğan cult. A mindset where every event, every actor, every strategy is flattened into one cartoon villain and his supposed lust for power. That’s not serious analysis. That’s just obsession dressed up as politics.
 

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If anyone is a “pet” here, it’s not Bahçeli. It’s Erdoğan following Bahçeli’s line. What Bahçeli wants, happens. What Bahçeli doesn’t want, never happens.
Wow, I really don't think we have anything to talk about after this. All my years on the Internet and I've never seen delusion like this, it is genuinely hilarious. Thank you for the laugh lad, keep on believing and etc.
 

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Wow, I really don't think we have anything to talk about after this. All my years on the Internet and I've never seen delusion like this, it is genuinely hilarious. Thank you for the laugh lad, keep on believing and etc.

But I laughed myself silly.

All the years I spent on the internet...

Boy, oh boy, oh boy... I tell you something... You don't believe, rather you have been brought to believe to something... and you can't run away from it...

But remember one thing and believe it: the internet and politics are completely different areas!!!
 

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But I laughed myself silly.

All the years I spent on the internet...

Boy, oh boy, oh boy... I tell you something... You don't believe, rather you have been brought to believe to something... and you can't run away from it...

But remember one thing and believe it: the internet and politics are completely different areas!!!
What the fuck are you talking about lad? Brought to believe something? What? Are you alright?

Internet has nothing to do with my ideas about the politics and what is happening right now, seriously, what are you trying to say here? (other than proving ESL education in Turkey is really fucking shit)
 

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But I laughed myself silly.

All the years I spent on the internet...

Boy, oh boy, oh boy... I tell you something... You don't believe, rather you have been brought to believe to something... and you can't run away from it...

But remember one thing and believe it: the internet and politics are completely different areas!!!
Without delaying the issue further, any proof of that statement (Bahceli is the boss)..
 

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Wow, I really don't think we have anything to talk about after this. All my years on the Internet and I've never seen delusion like this, it is genuinely hilarious. Thank you for the laugh lad, keep on believing and etc.
You laughter only proves you’ve never actually followed Turkish politics. Bahçeli is the man who has picked presidents, flipped coalitions, and decided the course of the state more times than the amount of years you spent on Earth. He has extensive influence over the military, intelligence, police and ministeries. Anyone who has spent some time in Ankara bureucracy is aware of that.

Every major shift in Turkish politics over the last 25 years have Bahçeli signature on it but somehow he ended up being a pet. LOL. I suggest you to grab a dictionary and check what does "kingmaker" mean.
 

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US plans to cut off military aid to key Middle East ally, BBC told​


The Trump administration is planning to cut off military aid to a key Middle East ally that helped the US defeat the Islamic State group (IS) and is now facing punishing attacks from Iran, according to four sources familiar with the matter.

The US Department of Defense has told leaders of Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdistan region in recent meetings that the administration is not planning to renew an expiring agreement that provides security assistance to the Peshmerga, the Kurdish security force.

The BBC spoke to two officials who participated in the talks and two other sources with direct knowledge of the issue. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the talks, details of which have not been previously reported.

Kurdish officials fear the funding cut would create a power vacuum and embolden Iran, which has fired hundreds of missiles and drones into Iraqi Kurdistan since US President Donald Trump started the war with Tehran.

Ending the Peshmerga's security assistance would undermine a longtime partner in Iraq, analysts said, and send the message that the US cannot be trusted to back its allies in the region.

"The US would be cutting off the Kurds, who shed so much blood to help the Americans achieve their goals in Iraq and the wider Middle East," Yerevan Saeed, the director of the Global Kurdish Initiative for Peace at American University, said.

"This is going to be a big win for Iran, China, and Russia if the Kurds are left so exposed."

In his second term, Trump has pledged to reduce America's foreign entanglements in regions like the Middle East. He also launched the war with Iran, which reached the six-month mark on Friday with no end in sight.
The memorandum of understanding between the Pentagon and the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) is set to expire on 30 September, the same day the US and other nations are withdrawing their last remaining troops from Iraq.
The troop withdrawal will formally end the international military campaign against IS, in which the Peshmerga fought alongside coalition troops to end the jihadist group's control of parts of Iraq and Syria. The sole remaining US military base in the country, located in the Iraqi Kurdish capital of Irbil, is set to close next month once coalition troops leave.
The Peshmerga, which has approximately 180,000 troops in Iraqi Kurdistan, received $61m (£45m) in the fiscal year 2026 for weapons, military training and stipends through the Pentagon's counter-IS programme.
The Pentagon proposed cutting all the group's security aid in its fiscal year 2027 budget request - arguing that since IS was defeated the money should now be reallocated - but the spending plan is on hold amid a broader budget battle in Congress.
The request raised alarm bells in Iraqi Kurdistan, but officials had held out hope that the US would renew the funding through an extension of the current deal.
The fears have only grown as Iran has stepped up attacks against the KRG. Iran and Iranian-backed militias had conducted 158 missile or drone attacks inside Iraqi Kurdistan by late May, according to reasearch on the latest available data compiled by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a Washington DC think tank.
But despite the surge in attacks, in recent talks with Iraqi and Kurdish leaders, defence department officials said the US was not planning to extend the memorandum of understanding, multiple sources with knowledge of the discussions said. The Pentagon signed the initial memorandum of understanding giving military assistance to the Peshmerga in 2016 and renewed it in 2022.
A final decision on security engagement between the US and Kurdistan is still being reviewed, according to one source familiar with the Pentagon's thinking. The US is considering ways to maintain some security support in both Iraq and Iraqi Kurdistan after the troop withdrawal, the sources said.

The KRG declined to comment. The White House referred the BBC to the Pentagon where a spokesperson pointed to a statement by the department summarising Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth's meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Ali al-Zaidi in July.

"The United States, Iraq and Coalition partners have achieved tremendous success in defeating ISIS and now the Iraqi Security Forces, including the Peshmerga and other Iraqi Kurdistan Region security forces, will lead the fight against terrorists in Iraq," the statement said.

A State Department spokesperson told the BBC it was focused on implementing the troop withdrawal, and "ensuring that Prime Minister Zaidi is positioned to disarm Iran-aligned terrorist militias and safeguard Iraqi sovereignty."

The expiration of the security aid for the Peshmerga would come less than one year after the US opened its largest consulate in the world, in Irbil.

At the ribbon-cutting ceremony for the $800m complex last December, Michael Rigas, a senior US State Department official, said the consulate was "a testament to the value of the relationship between the United States and the Iraqi Kurdistan Region".

The recent discussions around Kurdish security were part of larger conversations between the US, the Iraqi government and KRG over the upcoming troop withdrawal. That date was set under a 2024 agreement between Washington and Baghdad to withdraw the US troops that remain in Iraq from the campaign against IS. American combat troops left Iraq in 2011 but returned after the power vacuum led to the rise of IS in 2014.

The US could avoid repeating the same mistake by continuing to back the Peshmerga, said James Jeffrey, who spearheaded the global coalition against IS in Trump's first term.

"It's money well spent, as we found out when the Islamic State rolled into northern Iraq," said Jeffrey, a former US ambassador to Iraq and Turkey under the Obama administration.

The Trump administration has not said how many US troops brought in to fight IS more than a decade ago remain in Iraq. Experts believe it's under 1,000, down from 170,000 at the height of the Iraq War.
The recent meetings on Iraqi security included the White House, Defense and State Departments, with Tom Barrack acting as a principal US voice on Iraq, four sources said. A close Trump ally, Barrack is the US ambassador to Turkey and special envoy to Iraq and Syria.
The administration has said publicly it's open to a bilateral security agreement with Iraq. The countries discussed a possible defence pact in the recent meetings, but it's still unclear how the agreement might be structured or what Iraqi Kurdistan's role might be.
Al-Zaidi touted the troop withdrawal during his visit to Washington last month. Al-Zaidi, who was elected in May, met Trump at the White House, as well as Hegseth and members of Congress.
"October 1 will mark a new day in the trajectory of the Iraqi state, as Iraq will be free of any foreign military presence," al-Zaidi's office said in a statement at the time.
The withdrawal will reduce the exposure of US troops in the Middle East who have been targeted by Iran during the war, analysts said. Tehran has attacked US bases across the region, including the base in Irbil.
But it will leave the Peshmerga security force and the rest of the region it helps protect even more vulnerable than before, said Jason Campbell, a former US defence official.
"The Peshmerga have been the frontline in the US and international war with ISIS," said Campbell, an expert at the Middle East Institute. "If the US moves forward with this, it'll make the Kurds perhaps the most vulnerable potential targets of Iran."


The US has officially announced that it is withdrawing its military and financial support for Israel's aspirations for a Kurdish state.
 

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they don't need to fund them anymore as Turkiye and the Islamist traitors in government are giving the PKK everything they want and need in Turkiye to carve up the state. Zafer been happy about this for weeks.
 

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PKK subhumans are marching through Kadiköy, with PKK slogans and flags, guess what happens Police is protecting them. And then those spineless AKP arselickers are claiming that the other parties cooperate with PKK.

People with Turkish flags in their hands are getting escorted away by Police, PKKians are getting Police protection, and now the Goverment aids them in football too.

You can't end terrorism by pulling down your pants and bending over infront of them...
 
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