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That is exactly why the US opposed independence referendum, the outcome, or rather what was to come after that. US plans were to be washed down the drain…

Despite Turkiye's economic problems. It has a much bigger and stronger economy than its neighbours. Not just economic but also politically and militarily powerful.

There is a reason its a regional power. I know the Turkish economy is not like Germany. But in its region its pretty much stronger and bigger than Georgia, Iraq, Syria, Armenia, Iran, Lebanon, Cyprus, Bulgaria and Greece.

I know Bulgaria and Greece are in the EU but the EU is an economic powerhouse not Bulgaria or Greece.
 

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That is exactly why the US opposed independence referendum, the outcome, or rather what was to come after that. US plans were to be washed down the drain…

US didn't oppose the way you think they did, but Turkey and Iran opposed it. The US told the KRG that it was bad timing because they knew that if Turkey and Iran oppose it, it will fail. They were against the timing, not the actual intended outcome of it. The Kurdistan project is an incremental project, 1 by 1 they want to knock the said nations down, iraq, syria, Turkey then maybe Iran.

Turkey placed all sorts of embargoes on the KRG with Iran and then basically looked the other way when Iranian proxies moved in stopping it.
 

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Americans got their so called Kurdish autonomy in Iraq after invading it and breaking it up, they are now balls deep in syria protecting and creating their ypg kurdish state. While all this is happening Turkey has had a decades long PKK terrorist fight, while the international media has been promoting the Kurdish cause and demonising the Turks at every opportunity.

Within Turkey herself the Kurdish propaganda assault really ramped it up during the AK party years, Turks were being brainwashed to hate Turkish history and nationalism, while at the same time the PKK and minorities causes were being elevated. The open society run by Soros was given free reign to promote Kurdish independence within Turkey itself.

Step by step and from multiple directions "the greater middle east" agenda is being applied against Turkey.

Eventually if this succeeds the common Turk will be brainwashed to believe that Turkey being broken up will be good for Turkey. They were made to believe that giving the PKK autonomy of the south east of Turkey was good for Turkey, it wasnt only not good it turned out to be a massive disaster.
 

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Americans got their so called Kurdish autonomy in Iraq after invading it and breaking it up, they are now balls deep in syria protecting and creating their ypg kurdish state. While all this is happening Turkey has had a decades long PKK terrorist fight, while the international media has been promoting the Kurdish cause and demonising the Turks at every opportunity.

Within Turkey herself the Kurdish propaganda assault really ramped it up during the AK party years, Turks were being brainwashed to hate Turkish history and nationalism, while at the same time the PKK and minorities causes were being elevated. The open society run by Soros was given free reign to promote Kurdish independence within Turkey itself.

Step by step and from multiple directions "the greater middle east" agenda is being applied against Turkey.

Eventually if this succeeds the common Turk will be brainwashed to believe that Turkey being broken up will be good for Turkey. They were made to believe that giving the PKK autonomy of the south east of Turkey was good for Turkey, it wasnt only not good it turned out to be a massive disaster.

All that bs of Kurdistan being democratic and secular is all bullshit when the KRG is literally run by the Barzani family.

Funny how Westerners think KRG will be another Israel.

I dont consider Israel to be secular when it calls itself a Jewish state even have Rabbis in their government and in the parliament.

Westerners think the Kurds are secular and liberal while in reality they are tribal, conservative and the opposite of western liberals.

Do they really think Kurds are pro abortion, feminist, liberal and homo supporters 🤣

Western liberals are forgetting how Isis had lots of Kurdish fighters.

The reason why the middle east is in such a shit state as Westerners try to impose their liberal bullshit same story in Afghanistan.

They tried the same in African countries.

I always said this before every time the natural state of balance is changed everything goes to shit.

Every fcking time. Then again I do believe there is a reason for these conflicts its just endless chaos especially for the people who are far away from this chaos.

More utopian bullshit we gotta save the people. If the people cant save themselves what makes you think you will save them.
 
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Americans got their so called Kurdish autonomy in Iraq after invading it and breaking it up, they are now balls deep in syria protecting and creating their ypg kurdish state. While all this is happening Turkey has had a decades long PKK terrorist fight, while the international media has been promoting the Kurdish cause and demonising the Turks at every opportunity.

Within Turkey herself the Kurdish propaganda assault really ramped it up during the AK party years, Turks were being brainwashed to hate Turkish history and nationalism, while at the same time the PKK and minorities causes were being elevated. The open society run by Soros was given free reign to promote Kurdish independence within Turkey itself.

Step by step and from multiple directions "the greater middle east" agenda is being applied against Turkey.

Eventually if this succeeds the common Turk will be brainwashed to believe that Turkey being broken up will be good for Turkey. They were made to believe that giving the PKK autonomy of the south east of Turkey was good for Turkey, it wasnt only not good it turned out to be a massive disaster.
I thought the “greater ME” project was all about re-shaping ME politics with a few doses of moderate Islam, and not about re-shaping the entire map (this is by no means associated with the said project). Now what do you think it is? Claiming all moves are against Turkey sounds a little too paranoid!
 

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I thought the “greater ME” project was all about re-shaping ME politics with a few doses of moderate Islam, and not about re-shaping the entire map (this is by no means associated with the said project). Now what do you think it is? Claiming all moves are against Turkey sounds a little too paranoid!

Turks are exceptionally naive combine that with massive levels of ignorance and it allows shite like feto to be a real thing.
 

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Turks are exceptionally naive combine that with massive levels of ignorance and it allows shite like feto to be a real thing.
And how is that related to the question I have brought to your agenda?
 

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All that bs of Kurdistan being democratic and secular is all bullshit when the KRG is literally run by the Barzani family.

Funny how Westerners think KRG will be another Israel.

I dont consider Israel to be secular when it calls itself a Jewish state even have Rabbis in their government and in the parliament.

Westerners think the Kurds are secular and liberal while in reality they are tribal, conservative and the opposite of western liberals.

Do they really think Kurds are pro abortion, feminist, liberal and homo supporters 🤣

Western liberals are forgetting how Isis had lots of Kurdish fighters.

The reason why the middle east is in such a shit state as Westerners try to impose their liberal bullshit same story in Afghanistan.

They tried the same in African countries.

I always said this before every time the natural state of balance is changed everything goes to shit.

Every fcking time. Then again I do believe there is a reason for these conflicts its just endless chaos especially for the people who are far away from this chaos.

More utopian bullshit we gotta save the people. If the people cant save themselves what makes you think you will save them.

Its simple divide and conquer, what the kurds are is not important to them, what they can be used for is. The underlying Marxist ideology behind the kurdistan project is important because it allows these people to be divided from their surrounding Muslim communities. Its no good creating an islamist PKK, because it will end up unifying with other islamists whether it be erdogan or shia iran. So the marxist ideology is good for division, its also why christian missionaries do most of their work on the Kurdish communities, they want these people to see themselves as different from the surrounding peoples and areas.
 

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And how is that related to the question I have brought to your agenda?

You talk about paranoia as a way to discredit my reason, and my foresight, when its already a fact that their is an islamist conspiracy owned by the USA and controlled by the CIA that was used against Turkey to take the entire nation over.

We can even find youtube videos of the devil himself talking about taking over the entire state from within and keeping secret about it until they are so far in that they cannot be toppled.

FETO is not the only entity operating against Turkey in the region and wider region. That's not how the anglo-american world works, they dont gamble everything on one option, they create many options.
 

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Its simple divide and conquer, what the kurds are is not important to them, what they can be used for is. The underlying Marxist ideology behind the kurdistan project is important because it allows these people to be divided from their surrounding Muslim communities. Its no good creating an islamist PKK, because it will end up unifying with other islamists whether it be erdogan or shia iran. So the marxist ideology is good for division, its always why christian missionaries do most of their work on the Kurdish communities, they want these people to see themselves as different from the surrounding peoples and areas.
I say no more!
 

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I say no more!

read the books by professor carrol quigley, "the anglo american establishment" and "tragedy and hope"

When you read the books of the people who plot against us, you don't fall for their tricks and deceptions. The common Kurd must learn about the people who use him, otherwise he's destined to constantly be the useful idiot whose left crying at the end of it all. Because in the end thats whats going to happen, the Turks, the Iranians and the Arabs may get sick of it all and it will reach a point of no return. This unfortunately happened with the greeks and armenians previously in Turkey.
 

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Heavy clashes between opposition and regime forces around Aleppo(Darat Izza area). The regime is trying to gain land.
 
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Tonight would be the perfect timing to launch the operation. 15th of July is an important date in Turkish history. It would also give TSK enough time to clear the Tel Rifat pocket before the meetings in Iran.
 

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Hello guys i'm BarracudaVol1 from Twitter, I saw a few of my tweets shared here and I saw a few people's invitations, if you have any questions, I will reply from time to time.

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Erdogan's end-july trip to south america has been cancelled. Seems that there is a decisive battle looming in Syria. Rebels are preparing on all fronts incl. Idlib.

Turkey needs to finish the Syrian problem once and for all.
 

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I thought the “greater ME” project was all about re-shaping ME politics with a few doses of moderate Islam, and not about re-shaping the entire map (this is by no means associated with the said project). Now what do you think it is? Claiming all moves are against Turkey sounds a little too paranoid!
It is about reshaping the entire map with our country as the priority to be shaped.
 

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It is about reshaping the entire map with our country as the priority to be shaped.
US (and Europe’s) plans to re-draw Turkey’s map is out there… since forever! But these plans are no way associated with the “Greater Middle East Project”. Following article explains what this project is all about…
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Erdogan's end-july trip to south america has been cancelled. Seems that there is a decisive battle looming in Syria. Rebels are preparing on all fronts incl. Idlib.

Turkey needs to finish the Syrian problem once and for all.
There won't be a decisive battle in Syria. Turkish goal is to create a ~30km deep corridor along its border.
 

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