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The TSK has ordered elements of SNA to mobilize as HTS has absorbed more SNA territory and looks like it will take over another border crossing to Turkey, which can earn it millions of dollars a year in addition to the oil and other border crossings it has.
Note that some SNA factions are aligned with HTS. There will likely be more infighting within the HTS again.
TR pays the SNA salaries, each fighter gets $~500 dollars. Given the size of the SNA, you can imagine the cost.
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HTS is winning currently, SNA cannot win without TSK mobilization.
HTS won, Ahrar Awlan is a HTS group. The SNA has become even weaker and the loss of income will spur on more infighting within the SNA. HTS will continue to grow and take over all operation areas eventually.
The deployment of Turkish tanks didn't even halt HTS this time
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HTS now occupies Turkmen villages in Cobanbey.
Everyone apart from Assad and Erdogan is a winner in Syria
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SNA released a statement saying the HTS are separatists and collaborating with YPG to attack Turkey and Turkish soldiers.
It seems to be desperate for Turkish army support, because these claims seem very unrealistic.
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I actually don't think it's unrealistic at all. Groups like the HTS and YPG are opportunistic most of all and commenters on here and elsewhere have talked for ages about what a massive mistake it is for Turkey to tolerate HTS.
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Honestly hts cant touch Turkiye because they know the consequences.
HTS have taken two towns (Dabik, Suran) in Azez from the SNA. Eventually they'll take Mare then Afrin.
Many SNA factions have declared neutrality instead of mobilizing to stop HTS.
The ones with closest links to TR actually seem to have sided with HTS and ignored TR completely (Sultan Murad, Suleiman Shah, both Turkmen groups).
Some SNA soldiers were captured and locked in a toilet by HTS, they don't respect the SNA at all lol
Big fail. Idiot policy in Syria is creating an Al Qaeda state on our border.
Many SNA factions have declared neutrality instead of mobilizing to stop HTS.
The ones with closest links to TR actually seem to have sided with HTS and ignored TR completely (Sultan Murad, Suleiman Shah, both Turkmen groups).
Some SNA soldiers were captured and locked in a toilet by HTS, they don't respect the SNA at all lol
Big fail. Idiot policy in Syria is creating an Al Qaeda state on our border.
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Is it possible that Türkiye it's has decided to support the HTS instead of SNA and that is why they sided with the HTS?
Maybe but I don't see what the advantage is. Most of the important countries in Syria have it listed as a terrorist group including Turkiye. It destroys the Syrian opposition meaning the only interlocutors left in Geneva is the PYD and Assad.
Also not to mention the huge amount of money and other losses incurred from creating the SNA only to do a 180.
HTS also sends radical preachers and cells to Turkiye to expand their influence. They've been arrested a few times before.
Maybe they want HTS to be part of the SNA ? But this way HTS will own the SNA and we'll pay their salaries too, in addition to the oil we buy from them in Idlib.
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I see; do you know what Türkiye's official policy is in Syria? For example, is Türkiye trying to create a proper state or is it just arming various factions?
There doesn't seem to be any state structure in the Turkish-controlled areas. unlike the YPG and Assad's area.
I don't think there is a plan anymore, Erdogan just hopes Assad will normalize with him and Assad refuses. Initially for the AKP when Davutoglu was prime minister the strategy was an Arab opening, engaging with the Arabs on the borders, fall of Assad, integration with Arab world through Arab proxies in Syria...
...except the borders were mostly Kurds in Iraq and Syria. It resulted in a huge mess where no integration with Arab world was achieved, a new conflict with a large Kurdish entity that owns most of Syria's oil, agriculture and has the support of Russia, USA and Arabs and is hostile, unlike the KRG which Turkiye has strong ties with. Arabs are beginning to accept Assad. Also Assad refuses to speak to Turkiye and Iran's IRGC are now closer than ever to the borders. Also refugees that cannot go back as there are no safe zones unless Turkiye negotiates with the Kurdish entity, as SNA/HTS areas are not safe and regularly bombed by Assad and Russia and does not have infrastructure to host large populations.
So now they just pay the SNA a salary to "protect the borders" and not betray, ignore HTS and IRGC and drone strike the SDF every now and then. All $$$ for status quo. Also Turkiyes governors on the border provinces "govern" the SNA areas as the SNA does not have a functioning government. It's just militias and warlords fighting each other and looting from the local and displaced populace in SNA areas and buying property and citizenship in Turkiye.
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Turkiye needs to stop Fucking around and start nation-building in the areas it controls.
YPG. They are setting it up there. Also it is impossible to nation-build as that is not what TR is there for.
As far as TR is concerned, Assad won and all TR wants is for refugees go back to Syria, Assad's control over the borders and no more YPG.
