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Russian warplanes and regime artillery began to hit the south of Idlib intensively. They are preparing slowly.


Russian warplanes flying over Idlib, Afrin and Tall-Rifat region.

Syria- Russia and regime strikes target opposition held areas in Idlib. 1 woman killed, 5 injured.
This is pretty much the moment of truth for TAF. Either they strike back or they pull out.

It's interesting what's going to ultimately win out - loyalty to AKP/Erdogan or their own survival instincts.

If it's the latter, they'll start killing Russians in self-defense and damn the consequences.

If it's the former, they will die.
 
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Why is erdogan tripping like a little kid because biden didn't meet up with him? He says stuff like we will get closer with russia etc one guy destroyed our 100 year of diplomacy with everyone
 

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Why is erdogan tripping like a little kid because biden didn't meet up with him? He says stuff like we will get closer with russia etc one guy destroyed our 100 year of diplomacy with everyone
I know right
From what I know, Biden refused to meet with most presidents
Dont know why though
 

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This is pretty much the moment of truth for TAF. Either they strike back or they pull out.

It's interesting what's going to ultimately win out - loyalty to AKP/Erdogan or their own survival instincts.

If it's the latter, they'll start killing Russians in self-defense and damn the consequences.

If it's the former, they will die.

I wouldnt say its the moment of truth for the TAF forces. If you have been following the TAF they wanted not only to enter syria much sooner but also expand operations. Hence why after each operations generals ended up resigning because of politicians stopping the fight.

The reality is that its the "last moment of truth" for erdogan, he can't keep hiding anymore. If he behaves like a coward and retreats then it should be over for him, only a moron could continue to support such weakness.

But it would make sense now why erdogan had a closed sessions with putin, he may have capitulated but didnt want the Turkish public finding out. If he has only a moron continues to support such stupidity and weakness.
 

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From what I know, Biden refused to meet with most presidents
Dont know why though

Because Biden is senile and sick or dead. They are using holograms and green screens in most tv interviews. Look closely at this hands and the microphones and see the glitches.

Thats why he dont meet anyone and thats why he doesnt travel.

They produced a coupe d'etat with artificial intelligence and digital fraud with a digital president.
 
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Interesting article by Levent Kemal:


To sum up, he says that any likely exchange between Russian and Turkey regarding land swaps would likely be Turkey giving away areas south of the M4 highway, most notably Arbain and parts of the Zawiya Mountain (Purple circle) in exchange for Al-Darbasiyah and Amuda (1) - with the potential to ask for areas further east Al-Qahtaniyah andAl-Malikiyah (2).

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Notheless, he argues that if Turkey commits to this exchange, TR will no longer have any meaning full way of defending Idlib (and therefore unable to stop 3.5 million refugees heading to the border) should Russia and Assad decide they want all of Idlib. (Implying that any deal with Russia in this respect would mean de facto surrender.)

Accordingly, he believes that Tel-Rifat and Manbij are out of question, given that Russia's main policy in Syria is to form 'buffer zones' to protect important cities such as Aleppo. Giving away T-R and Manbij would mean contridicting their entire strategic policy.......

Furthermore, he expects any exchange/operation to take place before winter sets in, otherwise Russia will wait until Spring - adding more pressure on Turkey.
 
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Interesting article by Levent Kemal:


To sum up, he says that any likely exchange between Russian and Turkey regarding land swaps would likely be Turkey giving away areas south of the M4 highway, most notably Arbain and parts of the Zawiya Mountain in exchange for Al-Darbasiyah and Amuda - with the potential to ask for areas further east Al-Qahtaniyah and
Al-Malikiyah.

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Notheless, he argues that if Turkey commits to this exchange, TR will no longer have any meaning full way of defending Idlib (and therefore unable to stop 3.5 million refugees heading to the border) should Russia and Assad decide they want all of Idlib. (Implying that any deal with Russia in this respect would mean de facto surrender.)

Accordingly, he believes that Tel-Rifat and Manbij are out of question, given that Russia's main policy in Syria is to form 'buffer zones' to protect important cities such as Aleppo. Giving away T-R and Manbij would mean contridicting their entire strategic policy.......

Furthermore, he expects any exchange/operation to take place before winter sets in, otherwise Russia will wait until Spring - adding more pressure on Turkey.

A better idea is just to fight Russia over the region. Erdogan needs to stop playing games.
 

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Ypg are allies of the Assad regime lmaoo

They are both working together.
 

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The freaking nerve of these people to compare themselves to the citizens of Afghanistan.

Also, conveniently omitting that these same "allies" went running to Assad the moment TAF started bombing their asses to oblivion.

What does "respond" mean? Launch artillery strikes at empty desert plains?

Probably something similar to what happened the last time Turkish troops were killed.

 
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Grey wolves you mean non turkish proto akp supporters that act like islamists? My friend I have some bad news for you they aren't grey wolves
Unfortunately it doesn't mean gray wolves.

Gray wolves were the symbol of Turkish Nationalists some of who were against İslam as a tool Arabic imperialism.
Today so called "Turkish Nationalist Movement Party" has turned out to be puppet of Islamist Erdoğan.
 

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Unfortunately it doesn't mean gray wolves.

Gray wolves were the symbol of Turkish Nationalists some of who were against İslam as a tool Arabic imperialism.
Today so called "Turkish Nationalist Movement Party" has turned out to be puppet of Islamist Erdoğan.

Grey Wolves always believed in Islam/Turkish synthesis. Why do you think Alparslan Turkes and Nihal Atsiz broke away from each other. Turkes was more Pro Islam while Atsiz was more anti Islam.
 

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