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Now Russia, US, Iran, Syria and Israel have occurred ally? Today Israel hit Iranian factory in Damascus.
Damn i am puzzled. Turkish Army will strike SAR? Ruzzkiez or US bases?
 

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Now Russia, US, Iran, Syria and Israel have occurred ally? Today Israel hit Iranian factory in Damascus.
Damn i am puzzled. Turkish Army will strike SAR? Ruzzkiez or US bases?
Oilfields 😆
 

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Israel's end game is founding a vassal PKK state that will be a friendly vassal, guarantee Israel's security, and act as a buffer against Iran. Such a state can gain land from Syria, Turkiye, Iran, and Iraq which means those countries will be no threat to Israel for a few centuries. Even if it can't gain land from Turkiye and Iran a PKK state will be very useful to keep Turkiye in check and waste its energy. They will carefully arm that state with weapons that will be no threat to Israel but will be enough to deter a possible attacker. Iran's end game is Iranian control of Syria and completing the Shia axis of Iran-Iraq-Syria. Iran sees Turkiye as the biggest threat to this plan and wants to use PKK against us. Iran has firm control over a good chunk of PKK and the Talabani clan.
Russia wants to keep its bases and control over the regime. In that regard, it is in competition with Iran.

Israel is very concerned with Turkish technology developments. All of the F-35, F-16V, YPG, and Eastmed shenanigans are organized by Israel and the Jewish lobby in the background. After the Mavi Marmara incident, Israel switched to another mode even though Israel doesn't see Turkiye as an enemy it recognized us as a competitor/potential threat and started to act accordingly. Israel wants to weaken Turkiye so that it stays harmless to the state of Israel. This is done in two layers
1)Keeping the QME(Qualitative Military Edge) of Israel on the top while eroding the QME of Turkiye by embargoes and strengthening other players. A Turkiye that has a military technology parity with Israel is considered a dire threat.
2)Isolating Turkiye. Eastmed forum, coalition against ISIS, a possible middle eastern "NATO", a PKK state in Syria and Iraq that has the potential to add Turkish and Iranian lands.
 

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Again you found a scapegoat Israel.

Subject to your logic Türkiye should not intervene Syria in order not to serve Israel buttt Erdoğan is about to make operation to Syria so is he working for Israel's interests???

I can't understand your point of view.
 

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Now Russia, US, Iran, Syria and Israel have occurred ally? Today Israel hit Iranian factory in Damascus.
Damn i am puzzled. Turkish Army will strike SAR? Ruzzkiez or US bases?

Its not about them its about the position Turkey placed herself in where all of these people who hate each other and oppose each can find common purpose together in opposing Turkey.

Just like when the USA and Russia together moved against Turkey in west Syria to close us into al bab region, or when the americans threatened us not to intervene in the east and when we did they gave the regions they controlled over too Russia.

It takes an exceptional idiot to get these guys to all align their interest against Turkey.
 

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Israel's end game is founding a vassal PKK state that will be a friendly vassal, guarantee Israel's security, and act as a buffer against Iran. Such a state can gain land from Syria, Turkiye, Iran, and Iraq which means those countries will be no threat to Israel for a few centuries. Even if it can't gain land from Turkiye and Iran a PKK state will be very useful to keep Turkiye in check and waste its energy. They will carefully arm that state with weapons that will be no threat to Israel but will be enough to deter a possible attacker. Iran's end game is Iranian control of Syria and completing the Shia axis of Iran-Iraq-Syria. Iran sees Turkiye as the biggest threat to this plan and wants to use PKK against us. Iran has firm control over a good chunk of PKK and the Talabani clan.
Russia wants to keep its bases and control over the regime. In that regard, it is in competition with Iran.

Israel is very concerned with Turkish technology developments. All of the F-35, F-16V, YPG, and Eastmed shenanigans are organized by Israel and the Jewish lobby in the background. After the Mavi Marmara incident, Israel switched to another mode even though Israel doesn't see Turkiye as an enemy it recognized us as a competitor/potential threat and started to act accordingly. Israel wants to weaken Turkiye so that it stays harmless to the state of Israel. This is done in two layers
1)Keeping the QME(Qualitative Military Edge) of Israel on the top while eroding the QME of Turkiye by embargoes and strengthening other players. A Turkiye that has a military technology parity with Israel is considered a dire threat.
2)Isolating Turkiye. Eastmed forum, coalition against ISIS, a possible middle eastern "NATO", a PKK state in Syria and Iraq that has the potential to add Turkish and Iranian lands.

Whats important is the decisions the Turkish state makes, under AK party they have been terrible. Everyone is playing a geopolitical game in the middle east, from nations native to it and nations outside of it.

As Turks we should be concerned with the performance of our own decision making administration. Its been shockingly incompetent.
 

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Israel's end game is founding a vassal PKK state that will be a friendly vassal, guarantee Israel's security, and act as a buffer against Iran. Such a state can gain land from Syria, Turkiye, Iran, and Iraq which means those countries will be no threat to Israel for a few centuries. Even if it can't gain land from Turkiye and Iran a PKK state will be very useful to keep Turkiye in check and waste its energy. They will carefully arm that state with weapons that will be no threat to Israel but will be enough to deter a possible attacker. Iran's end game is Iranian control of Syria and completing the Shia axis of Iran-Iraq-Syria. Iran sees Turkiye as the biggest threat to this plan and wants to use PKK against us. Iran has firm control over a good chunk of PKK and the Talabani clan.
Russia wants to keep its bases and control over the regime. In that regard, it is in competition with Iran.

Israel is very concerned with Turkish technology developments. All of the F-35, F-16V, YPG, and Eastmed shenanigans are organized by Israel and the Jewish lobby in the background. After the Mavi Marmara incident, Israel switched to another mode even though Israel doesn't see Turkiye as an enemy it recognized us as a competitor/potential threat and started to act accordingly. Israel wants to weaken Turkiye so that it stays harmless to the state of Israel. This is done in two layers
1)Keeping the QME(Qualitative Military Edge) of Israel on the top while eroding the QME of Turkiye by embargoes and strengthening other players. A Turkiye that has a military technology parity with Israel is considered a dire threat.
2)Isolating Turkiye. Eastmed forum, coalition against ISIS, a possible middle eastern "NATO", a PKK state in Syria and Iraq that has the potential to add Turkish and Iranian lands.
Good post
At least somebody understands Israel's foreign policy in this forum

Thank God some1 knows that Israel wants all states within East Med to be weaker than it amd that recent Turkish tech has been an eyesore not only to Israel but also to USA, Russia, Iran, and China. All such nations suffered extreme setbacks from Turkish defense technology and they DONT LIKE THAT AT ALL!

As for Syria, I agree that Israel wants pro-Jewish community to surround all of its borders; thus, the meager possibility of radical shia PKK terrorists to relocate near to Israel's borders after a successful Turkish operation is something that MUST never be allowed
 

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I expect a decision to be taken for a land operation in Syria after today's National Security Council meeting. I expect the land operation to start in August. After yesterday's incident launching the operation will be even harder. Literally, everyone is against us. Iran, PKK/YPG, the Syrian Regime, Iranian controlled Iraq government, the US, and Russia is against us. There are suspicions that even the CIA supported Iran in the last false flag op to stop a potential Turkish op.
@TheInsider So? What did the National Security Council decide on? To continue and start an operation or to shelve it?
 

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I still say, there will be an operation, unless something changes in the field, the possibility of Turkey's operation will not be off the table. So many reinforcements were not in vain, so many soldiers did not come here for nothing. Also, I didn't want to share because there is a bit of HUMINT, but some of my military sources have confirmed to me that TSK units will continue to arrive in the Euphrates Shield and Olive Branch areas in the coming weeks, if that's the case, there's more to come.
 

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Turkey has also considerably stepped up UCAV strikes. One could say that Turkey has already started a low intensity campaign to deplete terrorist morale and power.
 

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Please guys Tell me ONE THING.
Why.........Why........Expect normal behavior ? (Shame on you........stop liying youself about that other side is looking for logic or true or right...........they are NOT)
Israel attacked In International waters Turkish ship and Killed Turkish citizens. Since than Israel went HOSTILE against Turkiye.

How to Say it
How to Show it
How to Explain it
How many times to give you example to resent History..........................

Israel did NOT change his hostile state against Turkiye...........

Why ALL OF YOU Surprised??????????????????????????????????????????????????

ONLY Side which is looking for Logic, Facts and follow of International LAW is Turkiye...................................All others Try everything to NOT follow any agreements and NOT follow International LAW.


Please STOP been NAIVE and LIE you self.
Start think and use you OWN resources to fuck other side IT IS RULE of ENGAGEMENT.
 

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Good post
At least somebody understands Israel's foreign policy in this forum

Thank God some1 knows that Israel wants all states within East Med to be weaker than it amd that recent Turkish tech has been an eyesore not only to Israel but also to USA, Russia, Iran, and China. All such nations suffered extreme setbacks from Turkish defense technology and they DONT LIKE THAT AT ALL!

As for Syria, I agree that Israel wants pro-Jewish community to surround all of its borders; thus, the meager possibility of radical shia PKK terrorists to relocate near to Israel's borders after a successful Turkish operation is something that MUST never be allowed
It’s nothing new. And most turks already know this. Only islamic oriented turks may refute this as this violates their caliphat dream.

hence the muslim brothers approach
 

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Israel's end game is founding a vassal PKK state that will be a friendly vassal, guarantee Israel's security, and act as a buffer against Iran. Such a state can gain land from Syria, Turkiye, Iran, and Iraq which means those countries will be no threat to Israel for a few centuries. Even if it can't gain land from Turkiye and Iran a PKK state will be very useful to keep Turkiye in check and waste its energy. They will carefully arm that state with weapons that will be no threat to Israel but will be enough to deter a possible attacker. Iran's end game is Iranian control of Syria and completing the Shia axis of Iran-Iraq-Syria. Iran sees Turkiye as the biggest threat to this plan and wants to use PKK against us. Iran has firm control over a good chunk of PKK and the Talabani clan.
Russia wants to keep its bases and control over the regime. In that regard, it is in competition with Iran.

Israel is very concerned with Turkish technology developments. All of the F-35, F-16V, YPG, and Eastmed shenanigans are organized by Israel and the Jewish lobby in the background. After the Mavi Marmara incident, Israel switched to another mode even though Israel doesn't see Turkiye as an enemy it recognized us as a competitor/potential threat and started to act accordingly. Israel wants to weaken Turkiye so that it stays harmless to the state of Israel. This is done in two layers
1)Keeping the QME(Qualitative Military Edge) of Israel on the top while eroding the QME of Turkiye by embargoes and strengthening other players. A Turkiye that has a military technology parity with Israel is considered a dire threat.
2)Isolating Turkiye. Eastmed forum, coalition against ISIS, a possible middle eastern "NATO", a PKK state in Syria and Iraq that has the potential to add Turkish and Iranian lands.
don't forget Israel is very active in North of Iraq, most of the politicians there flatter Israel to get to power.
For Israel as a competitor to Turkey in the region, I don't know if you guys heard of this but in the U.S. there is an act called "Israel's qualitative military edge" in this law America laterally guarantees Israel's superiority in all military fields in the region, America will not allow any country in the region, even if it is an ally, to outdo Israel. It is more than politics, this is a religion in itself in America.
 

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Please guys Tell me ONE THING.
Why.........Why........Expect normal behavior ? (Shame on you........stop liying youself about that other side is looking for logic or true or right...........they are NOT)
Israel attacked In International waters Turkish ship and Killed Turkish citizens. Since than Israel went HOSTILE against Turkiye.

How to Say it
How to Show it
How to Explain it
How many times to give you example to resent History..........................

Israel did NOT change his hostile state against Turkiye...........

Why ALL OF YOU Surprised??????????????????????????????????????????????????

ONLY Side which is looking for Logic, Facts and follow of International LAW is Turkiye...................................All others Try everything to NOT follow any agreements and NOT follow International LAW.


Please STOP been NAIVE and LIE you self.
Start think and use you OWN resources to fuck other side IT IS RULE of ENGAGEMENT.

If Isreal didnt exist, i'm telling you now that all of the surrounding Arab nations would be exceptionally hostile towards Turkey. Since our creation the arabs have done next to nothing for us, to the contrary they have in most cases always supported our rivals. Just look at the syrian refugees, other then Qatar no one in the arab world made any efforts to help these people who fled to Turkey. I still remember when Syria and Egypt were sending weapons to the greeks to kill Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus. The Turks fights the Kafir and the Arab 9 times out of 10 sides with the Kafir against the Turk.

The Palestinians have even supported the PKK.

Why would it make sense for Turkey to send a flotilla to Gaza? What geostrategic interest did it serve Turkey other then to fool islamist voters within Turkey that erdogan is the rightful caliph?. We only lost from that move and we still to lose this day.

If i remember correctly Palestinian authorities have also condemned every move we made into Syria. They never condemned the mindless slaughter comitted by Russia, the YPG, Assad or Iran in Syria.

We got to put emotion to the side and look at everything rationally.

Its wrong to believe that their is any brotherhood between Turks and Arabs, only the people of Libya and Algeria/joined sided with the Turks in history on their own accord, the rest of the Arabs the Turks conquered via the sword or the gun, to get them to stand in line. We will not be brought together by kind intentions, iraq is a good recent example.
 

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If Isreal didnt exist, i'm telling you now that all of the surrounding Arab nations would be exceptionally hostile towards Turkey. Since our creation the arabs have done next to nothing for us, to the contrary they have in most cases always supported our rivals. Just look at the syrian refugees, other then Qatar no one in the arab world made any efforts to help these people who fled to Turkey. I still remember when Syria and Egypt were sending weapons to the greeks to kill Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus. The Turks fights the Kafir and the Arab 9 times out of 10 sides with the Kafir against the Turk.

The Palestinians have even supported the PKK.

Why would it make sense for Turkey to send a flotilla to Gaza? What geostrategic interest did it serve Turkey other then to fool islamist voters within Turkey that erdogan is the rightful caliph?. We only lost from that move and we still to lose this day.

If i remember correctly Palestinian authorities have also condemned every move we made into Syria. They never condemned the mindless slaughter comitted by Russia, the YPG, Assad or Iran in Syria.

We got to put emotion to the side and look at everything rationally.

Its wrong to believe that their is any brotherhood between Turks and Arabs, only the people of Libya and Algeria/joined sided with the Turks in history on their own accord, the rest of the Arabs the Turks conquered via the sword or the gun, to get them to stand in line. We will not be brought together by kind intentions, iraq is a good recent example.

Israel did attack a floatilla in international waters and got our citizens.

If I had power I would have easily nuked Israel just for that.

Israel gets away with it because of the USA is behind it and every Jew has every politician regardless of which country in their pockets.

Thats why Israel gets away with it every time.

We dont have to simp for the Arabs but we dont also have to simp for Israel either.

Just because Israel kills Arabs does not mean they are on our side.

Israel is a hostile entity. Mind you these guys burnt our flags when we converted Hagia sophia back into a mosque.

They also ethnically cleansed the Turkmens of Palestine.

Israel will only be useful if they work for our interests other than that they can get the fck out.

Nihal Atsiz did not name them an inside enemy for no reason.
 

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If Isreal didnt exist, i'm telling you now that all of the surrounding Arab nations would be exceptionally hostile towards Turkey. Since our creation the arabs have done next to nothing for us, to the contrary they have in most cases always supported our rivals. Just look at the syrian refugees, other then Qatar no one in the arab world made any efforts to help these people who fled to Turkey. I still remember when Syria and Egypt were sending weapons to the greeks to kill Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus. The Turks fights the Kafir and the Arab 9 times out of 10 sides with the Kafir against the Turk.

The Palestinians have even supported the PKK.

Why would it make sense for Turkey to send a flotilla to Gaza? What geostrategic interest did it serve Turkey other then to fool islamist voters within Turkey that erdogan is the rightful caliph?. We only lost from that move and we still to lose this day.

If i remember correctly Palestinian authorities have also condemned every move we made into Syria. They never condemned the mindless slaughter comitted by Russia, the YPG, Assad or Iran in Syria.

We got to put emotion to the side and look at everything rationally.

Its wrong to believe that their is any brotherhood between Turks and Arabs, only the people of Libya and Algeria/joined sided with the Turks in history on their own accord, the rest of the Arabs the Turks conquered via the sword or the gun, to get them to stand in line. We will not be brought together by kind intentions, iraq is a good recent example.

Very true. Palestinian always supported Turkiye’s foes.
 

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If Isreal didnt exist, i'm telling you now that all of the surrounding Arab nations would be exceptionally hostile towards Turkey. Since our creation the arabs have done next to nothing for us, to the contrary they have in most cases always supported our rivals. Just look at the syrian refugees, other then Qatar no one in the arab world made any efforts to help these people who fled to Turkey. I still remember when Syria and Egypt were sending weapons to the greeks to kill Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus. The Turks fights the Kafir and the Arab 9 times out of 10 sides with the Kafir against the Turk.

The Palestinians have even supported the PKK.

Why would it make sense for Turkey to send a flotilla to Gaza? What geostrategic interest did it serve Turkey other then to fool islamist voters within Turkey that erdogan is the rightful caliph?. We only lost from that move and we still to lose this day.

If i remember correctly Palestinian authorities have also condemned every move we made into Syria. They never condemned the mindless slaughter comitted by Russia, the YPG, Assad or Iran in Syria.

We got to put emotion to the side and look at everything rationally.

Its wrong to believe that their is any brotherhood between Turks and Arabs, only the people of Libya and Algeria/joined sided with the Turks in history on their own accord, the rest of the Arabs the Turks conquered via the sword or the gun, to get them to stand in line. We will not be brought together by kind intentions, iraq is a good recent example.

Middle East has always been hostile.

Everybody there is hostile to us Turks.

Arabs, Persians and the Israelis are all a threat to us.

Mind you Israel got our citizens killed in international waters. Mark my words they would do it again and a again.
 
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