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The US has sanctioned the closest partners of Turkey in the SNA, Suleiman Shah and Hamza Division over human rights violations. These factions have been known to be involved in drugs smuggling, human rights abuses and child recruitment which got Turkey listed on the child recruitment list for a while. Their salaries come from Turkey.

"Abu Amsha’s kidnapping scheme likely generated tens of millions of dollars per year in ransom payments, it said. He is also accused of raping the wife of a brigade member."


Abu Amsha refused a prior dismissal over corruption and violations after an internal trial which split the SNA.

Abu Amsha is regularly in Turkey, where he owns several businesses.

Hamza Division is one of the groups USA supported before dropping them in favour of the YPG as they were too radical.
 
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The US has sanctioned the closest partners of Turkey in the SNA, Suleiman Shah and Hamza Division over human rights violations. These factions have been known to be involved in drugs smuggling, human rights abuses and child recruitment which got Turkey listed on the child recruitment list for a while. Their salaries come from Turkey.




Abu Amsha refused a prior dismissal over corruption and violations after an internal trial which split the SNA.

Abu Amsha is regularly in Turkey, where he owns several businesses.
Sanction them back. The US regularly uses undocumented migrant labor in their agricultural endeavors. Ban all US food and beverage imports!
 

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But nothing for YPG, who's guilty of the same crimes as we are all aware.
Testing times...
 

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So many militias and factions that do this LOL

The Americans are perfectly fine with the factions they support.

Geopolitics 101
 

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This is somewhat Turkey's fault for being so hands-off in these matters; the Turkish government needs to build a proper military and working State institutions instead of leaving the areas it controls in the hands of warlords.

Turkey's enemies can get away with openly supporting groups like the YPG and Haftar because they built a functioning state, while the side Turkey supports is constantly at the break of civil war with itself. Turkey needs to take a greater role in stabilising the area once that happens Turkey have the ability to push back against the Assad regime and the YPG. Turkey has 42% of the population of Syria in its controlled area.
 

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This is somewhat Turkey's fault for being so hands-off in these matters; the Turkish government needs to build a proper military and working State institutions instead of leaving the areas it controls in the hands of warlords.

Turkey's enemies can get away with openly supporting groups like the YPG and Haftar because they built a functioning state, while the side Turkey supports is constantly at the break of civil war with itself. Turkey needs to take a greater role in stabilising the area once that happens Turkey have the ability to push back against the Assad regime and the YPG. Turkey has 42% of the population of Syria in its controlled area.

Turkiye should be annexing these lands.

Simple as that. No warlords and militias no terrorists no assad regime.

But no it will be another Cyprus situation oh look Turkiye is an imperialist power blah blah.

Turkiye has all the right to be honest to ensure its security and the Syrians who became refugees who want to return back.
 

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Turkiye should be annexing these lands.

Simple as that. No warlords and militias no terrorists no assad regime.

But no it will be another Cyprus situation oh look Turkiye is an imperialist power blah blah.

Turkiye has all the right to be honest to ensure its security and the Syrians who became refugees who want to return back.
I don't say Turks got extremely soft for nothing. The fire we once had is gone, and that weakling on top doesn't help in that situation either...
 

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Turkiye should be annexing these lands.

Simple as that. No warlords and militias no terrorists no assad regime.

But no it will be another Cyprus situation oh look Turkiye is an imperialist power blah blah.

Turkiye has all the right to be honest to ensure its security and the Syrians who became refugees who want to return back.
Look, there's a way to do things ok? We live in the post-WW2 liberal world order. It might seem toothless, but it's really not. Annexing countries and changing borders is not the way. You gotta do it the right way.

You set up a local administration that has a parliament (optional). You keep a tight leash with regards to who enters through the doors of that parliament. You ensure the leadership's loyalty. Then you pay lip service to territorial integrity of the country. But you form solid bonds with Turkey economically, militarily, governmentally and everything in between, while you isolate from Syria. Seems familiar? It's because that's how US handles their PKK statelet in Syria.

This is how it's done. Going around 'annexing' territories just gets you Saddam'd. It would happen much quicker then you expect, too. Hell, even Iran doesn't even attempt that.
 

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