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Dozens of vehicles entered Operation Euphrates Shield are today.


Kirpi, Cobra armored vehicles and tanks belonging to the Turkish Armed Forces started to deploy in the center of Azez.


A big protest is organized in Hatay, next to the Syrian border.

Purge Hatay from Syrians. Any demonstration in Türkiye should result in immediate expulsion and no chance of return to Türkeye.
 

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Purge Hatay from Syrians. Any demonstration in Türkiye should result in immediate expulsion and no chance of return to Türkeye.

Most Syrians live in Hatay by the way as they believe this city belongs to them as part of Greater Syria.

All our neighbours all have land claims against Turkiye like Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Syria, Iraq, Georgia, Armenia and Iran.

Lets not forget Greater Israel they believe parts of Turkiye belong to them LOL
 

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The idea of letting protesters, well, protest is to preserve freedom of speech and project a lawful image to the rest of the world. However since Turkey is already considered a dictatorship, might as well double down and put those jackboots to use cracking down on the necks of people who actually warrant it.
 

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Most Syrians live in Hatay by the way as they believe this city belongs to them as part of Greater Syria.

All our neighbours all have land claims against Turkiye like Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Syria, Iraq, Georgia, Armenia and Iran.

Lets not forget Greater Israel they believe parts of Turkiye belong to them LOL
Get your facts right please. Most Syrians are, as of March 2023, in İstanbul, Gaziantep, and Urfa. Then Hatay. Majority of the Syrian refugees that are housed in Hatay are the relatives of the Shia community of Hatay.


Hatay has a big population of Syrians living in camps. Hatay’s own Arabic origin population are loyal TR subjects and having seen the mess in Syria, they are even more dedicated to Turkiye. Apart from that, they are Shia Muslims and do not like the predominantly Sunni Syrians that have sought refuge in Hatay. They see themselves as devout followers of Atatürk‘s principles. There aren’t many stray Syrians like in İstanbul or Antalya, in Hatay; apart from the rich ones that have rented villas etc. I have seen the use of daily arabic language less and less by the locals in Iskenderun after the influx of Syrians. Where as you would have heard more Arabic spoken amongst locals in and around the city, say 15 years ago, now there is more tendency to speaking Turkish even amongst each other, to isolate themselves from the Syrians.
 

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Get your facts right please. Most Syrians are, as of March 2023, in İstanbul, Gaziantep, and Urfa. Then Hatay. Majority of the Syrian refugees that are housed in Hatay are the relatives of the Shia community of Hatay.


Hatay has a big population of Syrians living in camps. Hatay’s own Arabic origin population are loyal TR subjects and having seen the mess in Syria, they are even more dedicated to Turkiye. Apart from that, they are Shia Muslims and do not like the predominantly Sunni Syrians that have sought refuge in Hatay. They see themselves as devout followers of Atatürk‘s principles. There aren’t many stray Syrians like in İstanbul or Antalya, in Hatay; apart from the rich ones that have rented villas etc. I have seen the use of daily arabic language less and less by the locals in Iskenderun after the influx of Syrians. Where as you would have heard more Arabic spoken amongst locals in and around the city, say 15 years ago, now there is more tendency to speaking Turkish even amongst each other, to isolate themselves from the Syrians.

Lets be honest here they only became loyal overtime because Syria will never get Hatay back.

When the Turks took Hatay majority of the Syrians opposed the takeover including the Alawites which you say are loyal to Ataturks principles.

Remember they opposed the takeover from the start. Deep down every Syrian harbours a grievance against Turkiye because of 1939. They havent got it out of their national conscious.

At the same Turkiye is a better place to live than Syria. Hence why they wont make that mistake of being separatists.
 

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Lets be honest here they only became loyal overtime because Syria will never get Hatay back.

When the Turks took Hatay majority of the Syrians opposed the takeover including the Alawites which you say are loyal to Ataturks principles.

Remember they opposed the takeover from the start. Deep down every Syrian harbours a grievance against Turkiye because of 1939. They havent got it out of their national conscious.

At the same Turkiye is a better place to live than Syria. Hence why they wont make that mistake of being separatists.
You are talking about the Syrian refugees or the native Arabic speakers?

If we talk about the native Arabic speakers they are extremely patriotic people with no separatism in them. In a matter of fact there is a serious number of native Hatay Arabic speakers that are serving in Syria within TSK right now.

An interesting fact is that the way they speak Arabic is unique for Hatay and may even be counted as a separate dialect. While very close to the Levantine Arabic there are still some differences.
 

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We can talk romantic about it but it is clear as the sun, Turkiye's Syria policy is bankrupt and we got 5 lmn Syrians as bonus
Worst of all, the man behind this policy is not held accountable. People are sick of bad governance, corruption and Syrians as they rightly should be.

Every time he fvcks up its: kandirildim.
 

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Erdogan's policy towards the so-called Arab Spring was wrong from the very beginning (2011).
Especially in Syria.
This was also wrong with regard to Egypt.
In Libya, things almost came to war with Egypt, and Erdogan had to stop halfway.
Today Turkey has to reap the fruits of these mistakes :(
 

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Erdogan's policy towards the so-called Arab Spring was wrong from the very beginning (2011).
Especially in Syria.
This was also wrong with regard to Egypt.
In Libya, things almost came to war with Egypt, and Erdogan had to stop halfway.
Today Turkey has to reap the fruits of these mistakes :(

Nah it worked as it planned the rebels nearly won but instead of pushing towards Damascus they began fighting each other.

Various nations went in then the YPG took chunks then ISIS came into the picture.

Turkiye screwed up because it beaten around the bush too long while Usa, Iran and Russia all went in.

Then again even if Bashar al assad fell the rebels would have ended up in a civil war anyway.

Ottomans did a better job in running the Middle East then the republic of Turkiye.

Lets all be honest here the Ottomans ruled here for 400 years with an iron fist approach same in the Balkans and the Caucasus.

You can never be soft in these regions.
 

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Nah it worked as it planned the rebels nearly won but instead of pushing towards Damascus they began fighting each other.

Various nations went in then the YPG took chunks then ISIS came into the picture.

Turkiye screwed up because it beaten around the bush too long while Usa, Iran and Russia all went in.

Then again even if Bashar al assad fell the rebels would have ended up in a civil war anyway.

Ottomans did a better job in running the Middle East then the republic of Turkiye.

Lets all be honest here the Ottomans ruled here for 400 years with an iron fist approach same in the Balkans and the Caucasus.

You can never be soft in these regions.
We are talking about different times.
I mean the last 15 years.
It is now obvious that it would be beneficial for Turkey to support not the Syrian “revolutionaries”, but Assad.
By the way, Ankara has long understood this and events are developing in this direction.
 

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We are talking about different times.
I mean the last 15 years.
It is now obvious that it would be beneficial for Turkey to support not the Syrian “revolutionaries”, but Assad.
By the way, Ankara has long understood this and events are developing in this direction.

Turkiye and the Assad regime have never been good in relations and Turkiye nearly went to war in the late 90s against the Assad regime.

Assad regime supported the Pkk and Asala for decades even threatened war when Turkiye built a dam.

Erdogan and Assad began to warm up in the 2010s but that was short lived.

Relations have been tense and hostile ever since the Ottoman Empire collapsed and taking back Hatay before Ataturk passed away.
 
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Erdogan's policy towards the so-called Arab Spring was wrong from the very beginning (2011).
Especially in Syria.
This was also wrong with regard to Egypt.
In Libya, things almost came to war with Egypt, and Erdogan had to stop halfway.
Today Turkey has to reap the fruits of these mistakes :(
those polices were made in SETA which was created by ahmet davutogu but later he was kicked out of it

here is their website

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at the begining of the video turkish soldier left in Syria were forced to kiss free Syrian army flag in order to calm down the Arabs
 
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We are talking about different times.
I mean the last 15 years.
It is now obvious that it would be beneficial for Turkey to support not the Syrian “revolutionaries”, but Assad.
By the way, Ankara has long understood this and events are developing in this direction.
It would be naive to believe that Assad will form a normal relationship with Turkiye. The only viable option Turkiye has is within the UN Security Council Resolution 2254 (the full text can be found here https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/atf/cf/{65BFCF9B-6D27-4E9C-8CD3-CF6E4FF96FF9}/s_res_2254.pdf ).

As long as the requirement of this resolution are not met our work in Syria will not end. Everything from the fight against terrorism (HTS, PKK, IS etc) to the safe return of the Syrian refugees and the political process passes trough the implementation of this resolution. Our forces are currently on the field, working towards this goal. This is the end game for Turkiye.

In parallel with this strategy reinforcing the order in our controlled areas and limiting the influence of radical groups in these areas is a must. A step towards this was taken with the opening of the military academy of the SNA which will hopefully "manufacture" SNA high quality officers who hopefully will take the place of the currently deployed traitors while the traitors in question will be expelled and/or punished.

Dealing solely with Assad is the worst that can happen as he, Russia and Iran will never stop their expansion. They don't want a coordination with Turkiye, but domination over Turkiye using all the means including the YPG/PKK card. If we manage to make Assad and the Opposition to strike a deal a half of our problems will be sorted out, but before this we must strengthen our hand in these negotiations and events like the recent ones are not helping. They were destined to happen, but the escalation was premature, not in the right moment and it unfortunately catch us unprepared (again).
 

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Those who acted against the Turkish flag and the Turkish soldiers in Syria after the latest escalation are being identified and hunted one by one.


The escalation in Syria is very important both in terms of the falling masks of the people working for certain groups who are otherwise known as friendly, but also in order to understand HTS strategy in Turkish controlled areas and their propaganda.

We know that the main event that sparked the fire in Turkish controlled areas was the opening of some border crossings for a commercial trade with Assad. In order to amplify the effect of these protests another escalation was pushed in Idlib by HTS under the pretext of the tensions and escalation against Syrian refugees in Kayseri and other Turkish provinces after an event where a 5 year old girl was sexually abused.

After these two escalations took speed HTS swiftly moved in order to create a state of chaos and exploit it. It both activated its agents within the Syrian National Army and also sent undercover men tied to the HTS structure from Idlib in order to initiate provocations, take the focus out of the protests going on against Al-Julani and use the popular anger against Turkiye and present itself as a stabilizing factor afterwards, projecting force and authority.

HTS used saboteurs from the Manbij Brigade and Ahrar Awlan to initiate the clashes and the identities of their killed and wounded fighters are known.

HTS is a very serious organization. It has its powerful media and propaganda. Two of the people that were tasked with the media activities of HTS during the escalation were Shamil Al-Homsi who is taking the position of media intelligence officer and Muhammad Khaled Abu Zuraiq who is HTS intelligence officer who is also a cousin of an important figure under the command of the Assad Military Intelligence Chief General Luay Al-Ali. The Turkish flags at Bab As-Salama border crossing were lowered under the supervision of these two.

Shamil Al-Homsi

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"Abu Islam Al-Daraawi", Muhammad Khaled Abu Zuraiq

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Who were they tasked by? The answer will shock you.

The chief of media/propaganda operations of the HTS is Ahmed Muwaffaq Zaidan.

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Who is Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan?​

Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan, identifying as a Syrian journalist supportive of the rebel cause, previously held the position of the Pakistani Bureau Chief for Al Jazeera. He has mainly reported on the Taliban and Al Qaeda throughout his career.

Which event made him rise to International fame?​

Zaidan rose to prominence in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks due to his unique access to al-Qaeda leadership. Notably, he covered the wedding of Osama bin Laden’s son, showcasing his proximity to the inner circles of the extremist group.

Additionally, Zaidan played a significant role during the Tora Bora bombing aftermath in October 2001. As the recipient of the first tape released by Bin Laden in response to the U.S. bombings, Zaidan’s coverage was broadcasted on Al Jazeera, contributing to his recognition as a journalist with unparalleled access to critical events. His encounter with Bin Laden in Kabul in November 2000, during which Bin Laden indirectly claimed responsibility for the USS Cole attack in Yemen, further solidified Zaidan’s unique position in reporting on key developments involving AL-Qaeda.

Allegations and Denials- USA’S NIA Hit List Candidate​

In 2015, Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan came under suspicion by the United States for alleged connections with both Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. This led to his inclusion in a government-compiled ‘Kill List’. It is noteworthy that this designation occurred before the administration of Donald Trump, based on available information and belief. Despite the change in administration, President Trump maintained Zaidan’s inclusion on the Kill List, reflecting a sustained concern regarding his perceived affiliations with the mentioned extremist groups.


I risk being boring once again. The organization HTS is the biggest danger for our strategy and operations in Syria. Don't be deceived by YPG's shiny look and the 4k documentaries. YPG is a laughful scum that would collapse in less than a month after the US abandon it. HTS is the organization that will create the real trouble for us.
 

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Those who acted against the Turkish flag and the Turkish soldiers in Syria after the latest escalation are being identified and hunted one by one.


The escalation in Syria is very important both in terms of the falling masks of the people working for certain groups who are otherwise known as friendly, but also in order to understand HTS strategy in Turkish controlled areas and their propaganda.

We know that the main event that sparked the fire in Turkish controlled areas was the opening of some border crossings for a commercial trade with Assad. In order to amplify the effect of these protests another escalation was pushed in Idlib by HTS under the pretext of the tensions and escalation against Syrian refugees in Kayseri and other Turkish provinces after an event where a 5 year old girl was sexually abused.

After these two escalations took speed HTS swiftly moved in order to create a state of chaos and exploit it. It both activated its agents within the Syrian National Army and also sent undercover men tied to the HTS structure from Idlib in order to initiate provocations, take the focus out of the protests going on against Al-Julani and use the popular anger against Turkiye and present itself as a stabilizing factor afterwards, projecting force and authority.

HTS used saboteurs from the Manbij Brigade and Ahrar Awlan to initiate the clashes and the identities of their killed and wounded fighters are known.

HTS is a very serious organization. It has its powerful media and propaganda. Two of the people that were tasked with the media activities of HTS during the escalation were Shamil Al-Homsi who is taking the position of media intelligence officer and Muhammad Khaled Abu Zuraiq who is HTS intelligence officer who is also a cousin of an important figure under the command of the Assad Military Intelligence Chief General Luay Al-Ali. The Turkish flags at Bab As-Salama border crossing were lowered under the supervision of these two.

Shamil Al-Homsi

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"Abu Islam Al-Daraawi", Muhammad Khaled Abu Zuraiq

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Who were they tasked by? The answer will shock you.

The chief of media/propaganda operations of the HTS is Ahmed Muwaffaq Zaidan.

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Who is Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan?​

Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan, identifying as a Syrian journalist supportive of the rebel cause, previously held the position of the Pakistani Bureau Chief for Al Jazeera. He has mainly reported on the Taliban and Al Qaeda throughout his career.

Which event made him rise to International fame?​

Zaidan rose to prominence in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks due to his unique access to al-Qaeda leadership. Notably, he covered the wedding of Osama bin Laden’s son, showcasing his proximity to the inner circles of the extremist group.

Additionally, Zaidan played a significant role during the Tora Bora bombing aftermath in October 2001. As the recipient of the first tape released by Bin Laden in response to the U.S. bombings, Zaidan’s coverage was broadcasted on Al Jazeera, contributing to his recognition as a journalist with unparalleled access to critical events. His encounter with Bin Laden in Kabul in November 2000, during which Bin Laden indirectly claimed responsibility for the USS Cole attack in Yemen, further solidified Zaidan’s unique position in reporting on key developments involving AL-Qaeda.

Allegations and Denials- USA’S NIA Hit List Candidate​

In 2015, Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan came under suspicion by the United States for alleged connections with both Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. This led to his inclusion in a government-compiled ‘Kill List’. It is noteworthy that this designation occurred before the administration of Donald Trump, based on available information and belief. Despite the change in administration, President Trump maintained Zaidan’s inclusion on the Kill List, reflecting a sustained concern regarding his perceived affiliations with the mentioned extremist groups.


I risk being boring once again. The organization HTS is the biggest danger for our strategy and operations in Syria. Don't be deceived by YPG's shiny look and the 4k documentaries. YPG is a laughful scum that would collapse in less than a month after the US abandon it. HTS is the organization that will create the real trouble for us.

Very interesting post ! So these HTS guys are supposed to be our ‘’allies’’ in Syria ? And we’re paying their salaries ? Or am I mixing with another group ?
 

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Very interesting post ! So these HTS guys are supposed to be our ‘’allies’’ in Syria ? And we’re paying their salaries ? Or am I mixing with another group ?

We use them against the assad regime and russia.

Turkiye is not paying them. Basically we leave them alone they leave us alone. Turkiye is not allies with them neither does hts see Turkiye as a ally.

But hts has been testing the waters and Turkiye warned them so many times you screw with us you are done.

Turkiye wants the HTS, Assad and Russia to weaken themselves in the long run.
 
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