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[Lool]

We hate HTS but we use them as proxies against ASSad and Russia. Hts is known to fight Russia. Let them kill each other off.

Its true but it is rumored that after the HTS took control of Idlib, they started to disobey Turkish commands and are even rumored to have contacts with the Israeli Mossad

The HTS is trying to drag Turkey into a war with Assad and Russia. This comes when Assad/Turkey reapproachement started taking baby steps and when Israel started waging a war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. As @Kartal1 said, the rumors that HTS struck a deal with Mossad to weaken Assad, Russia, as well as Turkey while Israel takes the easy path in conquering nations is highly plausible

Therefore, we can conclude that having this type of ally (wolves in sheep clothes) being eliminated early on in the game is beneficial in the long run as they will 1000000% stab Turkey in the back when it matters the most since the jews love nothing more than traitors after all

Lets not forget the time when HTS fighters were being treated in Israeli hospitals just like with ISIS

 

[Sanchez]

West keeps supporting them

West supports HTS as well. How do you think they managed to stay in their corner of Syria while ISIS was being bombed to oblivion? How did US did multiple anti ISIS ops without touching HTS? They cooperate.

Is HTS a problem for Türkiye and Turkish foreign policy?

Of course it is. It's a fundamentalist holdout with nowhere to go with millions of malnourished refugees under its rule. Turkey did silently act against HTS multiple times in the last year.

 

[Kartal1]

I also think that this a tripartite operation from Turkey-Russia-Syria.

Not even close.

I thought similar until seeing Israel's outright barbarity and how the "civilized" West keeps supporting them.

However, I no longer look at things from the Western perspective and use terms like "global jihad". We should switch yellow Hollywood filters off while looking at the Middle East.

If these people are fundamentalists, there must be reasons for it. We should focus on the reasons rather than the outcome.

Is HTS a problem for Türkiye and Turkish foreign policy? If yes, that's another matter. However, I don't see such a case at the moment. We have much bigger problems.

Btw, -afaik- HTS is quite decent in their military and in their administration. There's no corruption and disorder under their authority. They keep their towns safe and well maintained. Unlike the "moderate" SNA that we support unfortunately.

After the Operation Spring Shield HTS was involved into multiple moves targeting us and our sponsored forces. They managed to infiltrate the ranks of SNA and force the idea of joining forces under a radical Salvation Government.

Just a couple of months ago HTS supported terrorists opened fire at Turkish forces resulting in clashes in a couple of points in our controlled areas and TSK bases in Idlib were besieged, military equipment sustained damage. I don't even want to mention the IED attacks targeting joint TSK-Russian patrols that they put on DEASH while it was them.

HTS is viewing TSK as murtadeen and we view them as radicals. There's no future with them. Not to mention their relationship with foreign intelligence services.

As always the situation in Syria is confusing AF with trillions of factions with god knows whom they really support

Anyways, from the recent events, it seems that we can hypothesize few points:

1- Turkey wants to get rid of the HTS as they can backstab Turkey at the back at any moment

2- Assad wants to get rid of HTS as they are creating chaos and working in tandem with Tel Aviv (fqing jews everywhere I swear)

3- it seems weird that HTS is being attacked and Turkey isnt responding; thus, coupled with the first 2 points, I believe we can hypothesize that Turkey and Russia reached some sort of agreement involving the elimination of the HTS

4- It seems that Turkey and the SNA wants Tel Rifat and rumors of an impending op is high; but as always, take it with a grain of salt

5- It seems the rumors that Turkey, Russia, and Assad are gradually becoming closer is starting to have some legitimacy

There are no concrete steps taken by the Assad Regime on point 5. We did countless of gestures that went unanswered and not only that, but military activity on Manbij and Tal Rifat fronts increased immensely. I think the failure of this process took us to the point of planning an action against Tal Rifat. This is where HTS wants to exploit the situation and attack Aleppo as they know very well that we will be forced to intervene on their behalf. Now we have a situation where we either wait Assad to launch an attack on Idlib and respond or we act first. Very hard situation.

 

[Corvus]

West supports HTS as well. How do you think they managed to stay in their corner of Syria while ISIS was being bombed to oblivion? How did US did multiple anti ISIS ops without touching HTS? They cooperate.


Of course it is. It's a fundamentalist holdout with nowhere to go with millions of malnourished refugees under its rule. Turkey did silently act against HTS multiple times in the last year.

Well, we cooperate with them too?

As I said, if HTS is a threat to Turkish national security, that's another matter. I just think we should look at them realistically and not through ideological lenses.

 

[Sanchez]

Well, we cooperate with them too?

We cooperate with US, Russia and Iran too.

I just think we should look at them realistically and not through ideological lenses.

We already do. And just like others, they are a threat too. But unlike US that can tank our economy, Russia that can cut our gas or Iran that can squirm us in Iraq, HTS threat by its nature is more ideological. They can destabilize the region further and push refugees and they can create more fundementalists near and inside our country, they already do.

 

[Ryder]

Its true but it is rumored that after the HTS took control of Idlib, they started to disobey Turkish commands and are even rumored to have contacts with the Israeli Mossad

The HTS is trying to drag Turkey into a war with Assad and Russia. This comes when Assad/Turkey reapproachement started taking baby steps and when Israel started waging a war against Hezbollah in Lebanon. As @Kartal1 said, the rumors that HTS struck a deal with Mossad to weaken Assad, Russia, as well as Turkey while Israel takes the easy path in conquering nations is highly plausible

Therefore, we can conclude that having this type of ally (wolves in sheep clothes) being eliminated early on in the game is beneficial in the long run as they will 1000000% stab Turkey in the back when it matters the most since the jews love nothing more than traitors after all

Lets not forget the time when HTS fighters were being treated in Israeli hospitals just like with ISIS

Assad regime cant be approached.

Turkiye has been directly and indirectly at war with this criminal regime for decades even before the civil war.

Yes in the late 90s Turkiye nearly went to war against Syria this was when Hafez was ruling.

They for decades they supported pkk and the asala terrorist group.

Turkiye's biggest problem in the Syrian Civil war is that Bashar Al Assad hasnt got taken out. Then again even if Bashar is gone the country would erupted into another Libya.

We seen how broken Iraq is.

 

[Kartal1]

While Russian Mi-8 and Ka-52 helicopters are flying in the YPG/PKK-controlled Derbesiye city, close to the Turkish border, Russian Su-24 and Su-34 warplanes are flying in the Azaz countryside, close to the Turkish border.

While Russian warplanes continue their activities in all of these regions, Turkish F-16 warplanes are carrying out intensive activities in the skies of Gaziantep and on the Syrian border.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846902862221078740

Russian forces are reinforcing Ayn Issa from the Tabka airbase.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846910292761944283

A ceasefire decision has been taken by the the Joint Force and Levant Front/Suqur Al-Shimal until 15:30 to evacuate civilians from the combat areas.

According to information received from local sources, it was reported that the ceasefire between Levant Front/Suqur Al-Shimal and the Joint Force was extended for another hour.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846891675429335137

Yesterday during the clashes the HQ of Suqur Al-Shimal was captured by the Joint Force together with the brother of the commander of the group, Uday Hayriyah. Clashes continued trough the night and a couple of villages were cleansed from the control of the Suqur Al-Shimal. The clashes started after a decision of the Ministry of Defence instructing the group to disband itself.