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Lol, You criticize Türkiye for not acting in Syria, and now Türkiye has started to act and you are saying that it should not act because Israel is superior and turkiye don't have stealth fighter !!! In any case, you do not like anything, so you must attack and criticize!!!

Türkiye should wipeout YPG/PKK take Misak-İ Milli borders and support Turkmens. This is the basis for a strong defence against any games in Syria.

Diving headfirst into Damascus when Israel has been bombing it up until recently is just dumb. What's going to stop them from bombing it again. Or hitting one of our bases and claiming it wasn't them who did it? Even the UAE did this before in Libya and of course AKP responded with silence.

When 30 Turkish soliders died in an airstrike, it took public outrage to get a response. Boy it was a good response as TSK is good when left to do it's thing. But if tomorrow Israel uses its F35s and does the same thing, is TSK just going to lob some missiles at them Iran style?

All you wanna see is Türkiye become Iran 2.0. That's not a good thing.
 
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He is criticizing the Turkish government for not dealing with PKK/YPG/SDF, but moving further into enemy territory and opening more flanks to be attacked. Thinking we're big and almighty, when we couldn't even wipeout a terror organization hiding behind US presence.
There is no possibility of a confrontation between Israel and Turkey. Türkiye will not attack Israel, nor will the opposite happen. Rather, no matter what Türkiye does, he will alway attack and criticize.
 

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There is no possibility of a confrontation between Israel and Turkey. Türkiye will not attack Israel, nor will the opposite happen. Rather, no matter what Türkiye does, he will alway attack and criticize.
No mate, when Türkiye launched proper operations in the past I fully supported all of them.

Seeing Fidan run around like a headless chicken and allow this whole mess to arise with PKK being left unscathed is just ridiculous. Of course I'll criticize.
 

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He is criticizing the Turkish government for not dealing with PKK/YPG/SDF, but moving further into enemy territory and opening more flanks to be attacked. Thinking we're big and almighty, when we couldn't even wipeout a terror organization hiding behind US presence.
There is no possibility of a confrontation between Israel and Turkey. Türkiye will not attack Israel, nor will the opposite happen. Rather, no matter what Türkiye does, he will alway
Türkiye should wipeout YPG/PKK take Misak-İ Milli borders and support Turkmens. This is the basis for a strong defence against any games in Syria.

Diving headfirst into Damascus when Israel has been bombing it up until recently is just dumb. What's going to stop them from bombing it again. Or hitting one of our bases and claiming it wasn't them who did it? Even the UAE did this before in Libya and of course AKP responded with silence.

When 30 Turkish soliders died in an airstrike, it took public outrage to get a response. Boy it was a good response as TSK is good when left to do it's thing. But if tomorrow Israel uses its F35s and does the same thing, is TSK just going to lob some missiles at them Iran style?

Think with your brain, not with your ass. All you wanna see is Türkiye become Iran 2.0. That's not a good thing.
Lol, If Turkey were to attack the US-backed PKK, I'm sure you'd be the one to oppose and criticize.

Striking a deactivated air defense battery in Libya didn't change a shit , as no Turkish military personnel were killed . Meanwhile, Emirati personnel were killed in Libya, and Haftar suffered a humiliating defeat in Tripoli.

In Syria, Turkey prevented the occupation of Idlib, which laid to defeat of Russia and its puppet Bashar al-Assad.
 
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Türkiye should wipeout YPG/PKK take Misak-İ Milli borders and support Turkmens. This is the basis for a strong defence against any games in Syria.

Diving headfirst into Damascus when Israel has been bombing it up until recently is just dumb. What's going to stop them from bombing it again. Or hitting one of our bases and claiming it wasn't them who did it? Even the UAE did this before in Libya and of course AKP responded with silence.

When 30 Turkish soliders died in an airstrike, it took public outrage to get a response. Boy it was a good response as TSK is good when left to do it's thing. But if tomorrow Israel uses its F35s and does the same thing, is TSK just going to lob some missiles at them Iran style?

Think with your brain, not with your ass. All you wanna see is Türkiye become Iran 2.0. That's not a good thing.
Lol, If Turkey were to attack the US-backed PKK, I'm sure you'd be the one to oppose and criticize.

Striking a deactivated air defense battery in Libya didn't change a shit , as no Turkish military personnel were killed . Meanwhile, Emirati personnel were killed in Libya, and Haftar suffered a humiliating defeat in Tripoli.

In Syria, Turkey prevented the occupation of Idlib, which laid to defeat of Russia and its puppet Bashar al-Assad.
 
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Lol, If Turkey were to attack the US-backed PKK, I'm sure you'd be the one to oppose and criticize.
Have you even looked at my post history? I've been calling for a full blown operation against them for a long time.

I'm not happy with the current situation. AKP has made peace with PKK/YPG in order to get Kurdish votes. This will bite Türkiye in the ass in a few years when the peace process is over.
 

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To add to what I said, Türkiye can beat Israel in a war of attrition. But a limited skirmish deep in Syria is in their favor right now. PURELY due to F-35s. Kızılelmas haven't had weapon tests yet and ANKA 3s are in very limited numbers.

Sure, sending air defences is great, but perhaps it would be best to wait for some stealth platforms to enter the inventory before stepping in that deep.
 

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AKP has made peace with PKK/YPG in order to get Kurdish votes. This will bite Türkiye in the ass in a few years when the peace process is over.
CHP is also in the bed with DEM parti, why aren't you criticizing them!!!?
 

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To add to what I said, Türkiye can beat Israel in a war of attrition. But a limited skirmish deep in Syria is in their favor right now. PURELY due to F-35s. Kızılelmas haven't had weapon tests yet and ANKA 3s are in very limited numbers.

Sure, sending air defences is great, but perhaps it would be best to wait for some stealth platforms to enter the inventory before stepping in that deep.
Israeli will not attack Turkish soldiers in Syria,
 

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I think we can say that Turkish soldiers started to deploy towards the Israeli border in Homs or Damascus as of tonight.
What about east side? Wouldn't it make sense to bolster up Palmyra east to the Iraq border and everything above? To prevent a corridor to YPG areas
 

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He's just doing whataboutism now.

AKP has been power for 20+ years chaffing at the foundation of the Republic, getting rid of them takes precedence, Koalition parties can't do much because they never can agree on anything, so if judiciary and law enforcement can be corrected to neutral stance then we're off to a good start. Whether AKP or CHP they have too much filth in them and just need a front figure to get the votes.

With the exception of people like Mansur Yavas, I wish we had more like him and Muhsin Yazicioglu may he rest in peace
 

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To add to what I said, Türkiye can beat Israel in a war of attrition. But a limited skirmish deep in Syria is in their favor right now. PURELY due to F-35s. Kızılelmas haven't had weapon tests yet and ANKA 3s are in very limited numbers.

Sure, sending air defences is great, but perhaps it would be best to wait for some stealth platforms to enter the inventory before stepping in that deep.

The trick to beating Isreal is for Turkiye to avoid a major war for the next 30 or so years. Maybe the zionist agenda is to have the leaders of that nation drag her into a serious conflict sooner, rather then later.

If Isreals intention is war with Turkiye, its better to have that war now rather then 10 to 20 years from now because the Turkish domestic capabilities keep getting better. In war timing is almost everything. Why should Isreal wait for Turkiye to have her own fleet of 400 fighter aircrafts, a massive air defence umbrella, countless types of armed drones, extensive ballistic missiles etc. Nah, if anything they should want that war yesterday. right now Isreal has a massive airpower advantage, why lose that to only fight at a disadvantage in the future?

My fear is that one day we will find out that erdogan was a zionist agent. We know he was a CIA feto agent already, probably deep connections to Mossad. Its a theme when the anglo-americans want to destroy a strong nation they implement religious nutters who work to ferment conflict against Isreal when they dont have the capacity to fight Isreal as seen with the mad mullahs of Iran.
 

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Their plan is fanning internal strife, and division and they're doing everything to push these buttons including establishing kurdish state at our borders that should cause greater unrest. It's important to have fair and just laws. And give people work and opportunity to make something of themselves. But at the same time not tolerate any division, or any party that puts the people under such pressure.

Like in the past when PKK terrorized the South East Türkey to prevent development and such. We need to implement hard and merciless laws and anyone with a citizenship to our neighbouring countries should lose their Turkish citizenship/passport.

Unfortunately we do not know how many millions of Syrians are given Turkish citizenship and who can vote to effect the outcome.
 

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Their plan is fanning internal strife, and division and they're doing everything to push these buttons including establishing kurdish state at our borders that should cause greater unrest. It's important to have fair and just laws. And give people work and opportunity to make something of themselves. But at the same time not tolerate any division, or any party that puts the people under such pressure.

Like in the past when PKK terrorized the South East Türkey to prevent development and such. We need to implement hard and merciless laws and anyone with a citizenship to our neighbouring countries should lose their Turkish citizenship/passport.

Unfortunately we do not know how many millions of Syrians are given Turkish citizenship and who can vote to effect the outcome.

when you look at the agenda that has taken place under AK party within Turkiye, 90% of it is basically Zionist agenda for the region. We got some military victories and our military tech is advancing, but everything else is pure zionism/globalist agenda.

What Muslims don't understand is that you only need a few of the leaders and the entire movement is compromised. They should know this from "feto" hundreds of thousands members, maybe millions all beliving they are working towards an Islamic cause. But in reality they were serving CIA/Zionist agenda. Islam is a powerful tool that you can use to undermine a Muslim majority society. So they use it and they use it constantly. It works the same for any religion.
 
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Turkey moves to take control of Syria’s strategic T4 air base: Sources​



Turkey has begun efforts to take control of Syria’s Tiyas air base, also known as T4, and is preparing to deploy air defence systems there, sources familiar with the matter told Middle East Eye.

Construction plans for the site are also reportedly under way.

Ankara and Damascus have been negotiating a defence pact since December, following the ousting of Bashar al-Assad. The agreement would see Turkey provide air cover and military protection for Syria’s new government, which currently lacks a functioning military.

Although Turkish officials had previously downplayed the possibility of a military presence in Syria, describing such plans as premature, negotiations have quietly continued.

While Israel views a Turkish military presence in Syria as a potential threat, Ankara aims to stabilise the country by leveraging its military capabilities and filling the power vacuum left by the withdrawal of Russia and Iran.

Turkey also intends to intensify its fight against the Islamic State (IS) group, a key condition for the United States to consider withdrawing from the region.

A source familiar with the matter told MEE that Turkey has begun moving to take control of the T4 air base, located near Palmyra in central Syria.

“A Hisar-type air defence system will be deployed to T4 to provide air cover for the base,” the source said.

“Once the system is in place, the base will be reconstructed and expanded with necessary facilities. Ankara also plans to deploy surveillance and armed drones, including those with extended strike capabilities.”

The source added that the base would help Turkey establish aerial control across the region and support its efforts to combat IS, which still has cells operating in the Syrian desert.

Ankara eventually aims to establish a layered air defence system in and around the base, which would have short-, medium- and long-range air defence capabilities against a variety of threats, from jets to drones to missiles.

A second source noted that the presence of Turkish air defence systems and drones would likely deter Israel from launching air strikes in the area.

The Turkish defence ministry declined to comment.

Unnerving Israel​

Israel has regularly targeted Syrian military installations since Assad's government collapsed in December, with a recent surge in operations around T4. Last week, the Israeli air force struck T4 and the Palmyra air base, targeting runways and strategic assets.

An Israeli security source told the media on Monday that any Turkish air base in Syria would undermine Israel’s freedom of operation. “This is a potential threat that we oppose,” the source said.

Tensions between Turkey and Israel have escalated since the start of Israel's war on Gaza in 2023, ending a brief period of reconciliation between the two countries.

The collapse of the Assad government and Turkey’s emergence as a dominant power in Syria have further alarmed Israel, which now sees Ankara as a potentially greater threat in the region than Iran.

“We targeted the T4 military base recently to send a message: we will not allow any threat to our operational freedom in the air,” the Israeli security source told the Jerusalem Post.

The first MEE source also revealed that Ankara is considering the temporary deployment of S-400 air defence systems to T4 or Palmyra to secure the airspace during reconstruction efforts. However, no final decision has been made and Russia would need to give its approval.

Meanwhile, Ankara and Washington have been in talks about lifting the sanctions imposed on Turkey over its purchase of the Russian-made S-400 system, which led to Turkey's removal from the F-35 fighter jet programme in 2019.

In a phone call last month, US President Donald Trump and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed possible ways for Turkey to rejoin the programme.

Under US law, Turkey must relinquish possession of the S-400 system to be readmitted.

Turkish officials have proposed deactivating the system by disassembling and storing it, or potentially relocating it to a Turkish-controlled base outside of Turkey.

However, Israel strongly opposes any move that would allow Ankara access to the F-35, arguing it would erode Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.

 

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Israeli will not attack Turkish soldiers in Syria,

We said the same thing about Russia and the USA.

Usa shot down a Turkish drone even threatened to bomb Turkish soldiers.

Russia killed 33 Turkish soldiers in early 2020. Lets not forget how they killed 3 Turkish soldiers in 2016 by "accident".

What makes you think they wont Target Turkish soldiers?

They targeted a bayram gathering in Gaza they are the lowest of low. They will destroy mosques, hospitals, cities, churches at the same time bomb people at a special day.

Azerbaijan in particular should tread carefully. Turkiye will always have their back while Israel will easily abandon them and support Armenia when their interests suit them.

Russia and Iran were a perfect card for Israel to use against Turkiye now they lost those cards.

If only the Arab countries can get their shit together.
 

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Turkey moves to take control of Syria’s strategic T4 air base: Sources​



Turkey has begun efforts to take control of Syria’s Tiyas air base, also known as T4, and is preparing to deploy air defence systems there, sources familiar with the matter told Middle East Eye.

Construction plans for the site are also reportedly under way.

Ankara and Damascus have been negotiating a defence pact since December, following the ousting of Bashar al-Assad. The agreement would see Turkey provide air cover and military protection for Syria’s new government, which currently lacks a functioning military.

Although Turkish officials had previously downplayed the possibility of a military presence in Syria, describing such plans as premature, negotiations have quietly continued.

While Israel views a Turkish military presence in Syria as a potential threat, Ankara aims to stabilise the country by leveraging its military capabilities and filling the power vacuum left by the withdrawal of Russia and Iran.

Turkey also intends to intensify its fight against the Islamic State (IS) group, a key condition for the United States to consider withdrawing from the region.

A source familiar with the matter told MEE that Turkey has begun moving to take control of the T4 air base, located near Palmyra in central Syria.

“A Hisar-type air defence system will be deployed to T4 to provide air cover for the base,” the source said.

“Once the system is in place, the base will be reconstructed and expanded with necessary facilities. Ankara also plans to deploy surveillance and armed drones, including those with extended strike capabilities.”

The source added that the base would help Turkey establish aerial control across the region and support its efforts to combat IS, which still has cells operating in the Syrian desert.

Ankara eventually aims to establish a layered air defence system in and around the base, which would have short-, medium- and long-range air defence capabilities against a variety of threats, from jets to drones to missiles.

A second source noted that the presence of Turkish air defence systems and drones would likely deter Israel from launching air strikes in the area.

The Turkish defence ministry declined to comment.

Unnerving Israel​

Israel has regularly targeted Syrian military installations since Assad's government collapsed in December, with a recent surge in operations around T4. Last week, the Israeli air force struck T4 and the Palmyra air base, targeting runways and strategic assets.

An Israeli security source told the media on Monday that any Turkish air base in Syria would undermine Israel’s freedom of operation. “This is a potential threat that we oppose,” the source said.

Tensions between Turkey and Israel have escalated since the start of Israel's war on Gaza in 2023, ending a brief period of reconciliation between the two countries.

The collapse of the Assad government and Turkey’s emergence as a dominant power in Syria have further alarmed Israel, which now sees Ankara as a potentially greater threat in the region than Iran.

“We targeted the T4 military base recently to send a message: we will not allow any threat to our operational freedom in the air,” the Israeli security source told the Jerusalem Post.

The first MEE source also revealed that Ankara is considering the temporary deployment of S-400 air defence systems to T4 or Palmyra to secure the airspace during reconstruction efforts. However, no final decision has been made and Russia would need to give its approval.

Meanwhile, Ankara and Washington have been in talks about lifting the sanctions imposed on Turkey over its purchase of the Russian-made S-400 system, which led to Turkey's removal from the F-35 fighter jet programme in 2019.

In a phone call last month, US President Donald Trump and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan discussed possible ways for Turkey to rejoin the programme.

Under US law, Turkey must relinquish possession of the S-400 system to be readmitted.

Turkish officials have proposed deactivating the system by disassembling and storing it, or potentially relocating it to a Turkish-controlled base outside of Turkey.

However, Israel strongly opposes any move that would allow Ankara access to the F-35, arguing it would erode Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.



If we manage to use S400 in Syria, that will block a lot off airspace. It will make it difficult to attack in Syria.
 

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We said the same thing about Russia and the USA.

Usa shot down a Turkish drone even threatened to bomb Turkish soldiers.

Russia killed 33 Turkish soldiers in early 2020. Lets not forget how they killed 3 Turkish soldiers in 2016 by "accident".

What makes you think they wont Target Turkish soldiers?

They targeted a bayram gathering in Gaza they are the lowest of low. They will destroy mosques, hospitals, cities, churches at the same time bomb people at a special day.

Azerbaijan in particular should tread carefully. Turkiye will always have their back while Israel will easily abandon them and support Armenia when their interests suit them.

Russia and Iran were a perfect card for Israel to use against Turkiye now they lost those cards.

If only the Arab countries can get their shit together.
I have already written here about some of the mistakes of Erdogan's foreign policy, in my opinion. Turkey does not need hostility with Israel. It is very harmful to it. And of no benefit.
If Erdogan is hostile to Israel because of his religious views, then this is the biggest stupidity. It is hard to believe. After all, he is a pragmatic politician.
There is no need to exaggerate the danger of Israel for Turkey.
Imagine Israel without the support of the United States. In a completely hostile environment. You probably inadvertently compared Israel to Russia, and Turkey to Gaza...
We have long-standing friendly, trusting relations with Israel. We buy not only weapons from them. We have long-standing cooperation in the field of security.
Look to the north, there is a huge superpower that does not particularly hide its plans for us. To the west is hostile Armenia, an outpost of Russia. To the south is Iran. That is, our environment is the same as Israel's.
It takes years to create trusting, friendly relations. But it is easy to create an enemy.
There are no unnecessary friends.
As for Turkish bases in Syria, I am definitely for it. Syria must be supported, helped in its development. The Syrians cannot be left alone with Israel. Turkey needs a friendly, strong Syria.
 
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Israel is a de-stabilizing factor in our region. Attacking all neighbors around them and now focusing on Iran, to break out a big war.
Just watching them from the sidelines is in-acceptable
 

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What about east side? Wouldn't it make sense to bolster up Palmyra east to the Iraq border and everything above? To prevent a corridor to YPG areas
He is talking about the T4 air base near Palmyra region in Syria which will prevent the said corridor that Israel wanna build to the YPG as half of the Palmyra region itself is a part of the corridor
 

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