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[Oublious]

Turkish sources denied that Israel's strikes in Syria targeted Turkish air defense systems or were intended as a message to Ankara.

Turkish military sources stated that Turkish air defense systems were never deployed to the affected area.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1965442474932900044

Israeli sources continue to be manipulated 24/7

We have a lot off dumb people who believes everything theybread on x.

 

[Lool]

Turkish sources denied that Israel's strikes in Syria targeted Turkish air defense systems or were intended as a message to Ankara.

Turkish military sources stated that Turkish air defense systems were never deployed to the affected area.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1965442474932900044

Israeli sources continue to be manipulated 24/7

It wasnt Turkish AD systems that were there
It was Assad-era AD systems, predominantly BUK systems, that Turkey repaired for Syria; moreover, new batches of missiles for such AD systems were provided by Turkey to Syria in order to strengthen its army since the SDF has its own arsenal of AD systems which they stole from Assad bases after he fled the country

Israel's message to Turkey was clear: the new Syrian army will be nothing more than a bunch of men carrying AK-47 rifles and riding Toyota pick-up trucks. In other words, Syria must never ever have a decent army as it will be considered as a THREAT to Israel's long term plans for the region

For your information, Turkey did not only repair AD systems for the Syrian army, but also any fighter jets that Turkey manage to salvage after the massive Israeli airstrike on such targets immediately after Assad fled the country.

From my understanding, If Turkey kept on re-arming Syria, even such jets will be susceptible to be targeted as well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1964620658845135199

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1964470981160030320

There were no misinformation; Israel did hit a massive missile depot just a few kilometers from the Turkish border and this has been proven by the size of the explosion

 

[begturan]

It wasnt Turkish AD systems that were there
It was Assad-era AD systems, predominantly BUK systems, that Turkey repaired for Syria; moreover, new batches of missiles for such AD systems were provided by Turkey to Syria in order to strengthen its army since the SDF has its own arsenal of AD systems which they stole from Assad bases after he fled the country

Israel's message to Turkey was clear: the new Syrian army will be nothing more than a bunch of men carrying AK-47 rifles and riding Toyota pick-up trucks. In other words, Syria must never ever have a decent army as it will be considered as a THREAT to Israel's long term plans for the region

For your information, Turkey did not only repair AD systems for the Syrian army, but also any fighter jets that Turkey manage to salvage after the massive Israeli airstrike on such targets immediately after Assad fled the country.

From my understanding, If Turkey kept on re-arming Syria, even such jets will be susceptible to be targeted as well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1964620658845135199

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1964470981160030320

There were no misinformation; Israel did hit a massive missile depot just a few kilometers from the Turkish border and this has been proven by the size of the explosion

I see, you explained the situation well, we understand very well that Israel is sending us the essential message when it strikes the Syrian army, but this will not change the fact that we will destroy the PKK along with Israel's dreams.

This is turning into a fatal mistake, leading to the establishment of a force against Israel's aggressive behavior; in a sense, they are preparing their own demise.

 

[mehmed beg]

Let's call incoming things " Maximus Fabius".
No need to loose the nerves or patience.
Arm the tribes , and let make for the Jewery endless war.
All these issues can be solved, only by the annihilation of the certain factors.
That has been clear to me for some time as is the fact that Jewery land forces are worth f all.
No panicking, no show of discord. Patience and draining the energy. This will take a long long time and it will cost a lot. There will be plenty bad days , before the good once.
Let's make the Jewery existence unbearable.
Let's for begging, make life really uncomfortable for the Jewery in Cyprus.
No kebab , no sale in shops a few bloodied noses etc
Let them f off from there to begin with.

 

[blackjack]

We have systems like that bora for tactical and tayfun srbm but not really sure if they would be good for that by the time they would hit isreali fighter jets would be in the sky already. Would be better to use them for secondary strikes first stealth attacks with smaller bombs to damage the runway and be to destroy it

I also heard that Turkey also really loves their UAVs which also gives me more questions if they are making a Geran or Shahed kind of drone. With the obvious advantages.
1. Super cheap to mass produce and overwhelm air defenses with a range long enough with high explosives to destroy airbases that hold F-16s and F-35s.
2. If they want to shoot down F-35s, Turkey could also throw out like 800 of their own Shaheds with turbojet engines with Luneberg lens to have the same RCS as their F-16s overwhelming the Israeli F-35 pilots. Have one of their F-16s in that swarm carrying air to air missiles and also one of them carrying air to ground missiles assuming the F-35s fly back to land and refuel or get re-armed with more missiles.

I dont know why users here think F-35s are completely invincible while there are many ways to destroy them. The thing is Turkey also needs the right tools to perform the job. Also thanks for the missile info so in other words they need to start massive production in 1. Tayfun missiles. 2. long range kamikaze UAVs 3. production of their own domestic aircrafts.

 

[Pokemonte13]

I also heard that Turkey also really loves their UAVs which also gives me more questions if they are making a Geran or Shahed kind of drone. With the obvious advantages.
1. Super cheap to mass produce and overwhelm air defenses with a range long enough with high explosives to destroy airbases that hold F-16s and F-35s.
2. If they want to shoot down F-35s, Turkey could also throw out like 800 of their own Shaheds with turbojet engines with Luneberg lens to have the same RCS as their F-16s overwhelming the Israeli F-35 pilots. Have one of their F-16s in that swarm carrying air to air missiles and also one of them carrying air to ground missiles assuming the F-35s fly back to land and refuel or get re-armed with more missiles.

I dont know why users here think F-35s are completely invincible while there are many ways to destroy them. The thing is Turkey also needs the right tools to perform the job. Also thanks for the missile info so in other words they need to start massive production in 1. Tayfun missiles. 2. long range kamikaze UAVs 3. production of their own domestic aircrafts.

As far as i know we haven't bought any shahed like loitering munitions.
1. while they are easy to produce they wouldn't present a great danger to the israelis as radar systems could identify them as a lesser threat and leave them to cheaper ad like iron beam iron dome etc.
2. We have süper simsek which is made for that with ew payload or rcs enhancer but i doubt that an f35 would get in the firing range of an F16.
3. Best option would be to ground them before they can take off and for that you need deep strike capabilities like anka3 because to see a stealth bomber you need more than just a good aesa radar you need a VHF radar to see and i don't know if they have that as no other nation in the region has stealth.

 

[blackjack]

1. while they are easy to produce they wouldn't present a great danger to the israelis as radar systems could identify them as a lesser threat and leave them to cheaper ad like iron beam iron dome etc.

1.Are those air defenses effective because people stated Israel did a piss poor job, used a high percentage of U.S. SAMs(reason why most SAMs went to Israel then Ukraine). Lets assume Turkey can produce 500 of these drones day and then launched them everyday at Israel during a war. I assure you the iron dome could not produce enough SAMs to constantly get overwhelmed if they have a 100% interception rate. The speed of the laser systems in how much targets they can engage and the less ground radar timing of below the horizon altitude UAVs have yet to be proven for the iron beam. Buildings for its limited range can hide the UAVs.

2. We have süper simsek which is made for that with ew payload or rcs enhancer but i doubt that an f35 would get in the firing range of an F16.

2.With turbo jet engines it means you can overwhelm other countries air force even those using 5th gens. Imagine launching 1000 UAVs a day and each of those have luneberg lens that match a F-16 aircraft. They also have emitters to confuse RWRs and even the F-16s can just operate using RWRs to see how close they are before turning their radars on or using IRST. Those F-16s in the swarm can carry either air to air missiles or air to ground missiles following the swarm.