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[begturan]

Israel's persistent sensitivity regarding the Golan Heights and its insistence on the Syrian government handing over the region to it are attracting attention.

Israel's nuclear capabilities are likely hidden in the Golan Heights.... A UN-led force should definitely be deployed to this region. Israel's aggressive and expansionist policy threatens not only the region but also Türkiye in particular.

source clash reports/axios

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1968039485565964306

 

[Lool]

Israel's persistent sensitivity regarding the Golan Heights and its insistence on the Syrian government handing over the region to it are attracting attention.

Israel's nuclear capabilities are likely hidden in the Golan Heights.... A UN-led force should definitely be deployed to this region. Israel's aggressive and expansionist policy threatens not only the region but also Türkiye in particular.

source clash reports/axios

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1968039485565964306

To restrict SYRIAN FLIGHTS over its OWN territory within a range of 20-25 km from international Syrian-Israeli border means that in case of a potential war in the future, Damascus city would be the frontline of any invasion

Moreover, handing over Mount Hermon, literally means that Israel will have free geographical advantage over all of Southern Syria till bloody Damascus

If thats not all, then at least the clause that mentions that only police forces are allowed in Souther Syria can literally translate to: "keep souther syria demilitarised until we are prepared to annex it into Greater Israel"


No sane nation would accept any of such demands; Israel's demands are nothing short of colonialism and slavery at this point

 

[GoatsMilk]

To restrict SYRIAN FLIGHTS over its OWN territory within a range of 20-25 km from international Syrian-Israeli border means that in case of a potential war in the future, Damascus city would be the frontline of any invasion

Moreover, handing over Mount Hermon, literally means that Israel will have free geographical advantage over all of Southern Syria till bloody Damascus

If thats not all, then at least the clause that mentions that only police forces are allowed in Souther Syria can literally translate to: "keep souther syria demilitarised until we are prepared to annex it into Greater Israel"


No sane nation would accept any of such demands; Israel's demands are nothing short of colonialism and slavery at this point

Its incredible how Syria went from a country who was an enemy of the Turkish republic, to one where Turks alone are expected to secure the Arab nations sovereignty.

Truth be told I'm a that point where if the nation is going to be divided along pkk separatist lines, then the new Syrian government should federalise herself and become part of Turkiye. All the peoples of Syria that support the government, should really come under Turkiye now, the threats/dangers facing the entire region means that if the people stay divided they will face hell in the future from the zionist anglo-american world.

 

[Tonyukuk]

Its incredible how Syria went from a country who was an enemy of the Turkish republic, to one where Turks alone are expected to secure the Arab nations sovereignty.

Truth be told I'm a that point where if the nation is going to be divided along pkk separatist lines, then the new Syrian government should federalise herself and become part of Turkiye. All the peoples of Syria that support the government, should really come under Turkiye now, the threats/dangers facing the entire region means that if the people stay divided they will face hell in the future from the zionist anglo-american world.

This would be great, but there's heaps of foreign agents still active in Syria. They're always either "feminist" kurdish democratic separatists or radical Islamists.

Türkiye needs to spread Kemalism, it's truly the antidote to all undesirable ideologies and foreign backed radicals in the region. You could slowly swallow up Syria and in a few decades have an educated and loyal population.

To achieve this, Türkiye first needs total air dominance so it can have a solid hold over Syrian airspace. Then it should go all in on Turkifying it. Remember that using Ottomanism can only work to an extent they'll find a way to stab you in the back in the future, but also you'll get radicals that would hold back any progress. I'm 100% sure that if Turkish language is taught in Syrian schools and their kids look up to Atatürk for defeating imperialism, that in 20 years they'll be an important asset. Remember that Syrians and Iraqis are very mixed, they're not true Arabs, they were Arabified, and ultimately this has held them back.

 

[GoatsMilk]

This would be great, but there's heaps of foreign agents still active in Syria. They're always either "feminist" kurdish democratic separatists or radical Islamists.

Türkiye needs to spread Kemalism, it's truly the antidote to all undesirable ideologies and foreign backed radicals in the region. You could slowly swallow up Syria and in a few decades have an educated and loyal population.

To achieve this, Türkiye first needs total air dominance so it can have a solid hold over Syrian airspace. Then it should go all in on Turkifying it. Remember that using Ottomanism can only work to an extent they'll find a way to stab you in the back in the future, but also you'll get radicals that would hold back any progress. I'm 100% sure that if Turkish language is taught in Syrian schools and their kids look up to Atatürk for defeating imperialism, that in 20 years they'll be an important asset. Remember that Syrians and Iraqis are very mixed, they're not true Arabs, they were Arabified, and ultimately this has held them back.

We won't have time to achieve total air dominance and truth be told i think its impossible when the other side is armed by the USA. What's important is being strong enough that starting shit with us will bring such immeasurable costs that they won't think to start shit with us.

 

[Tonyukuk]

We won't have time to achieve total air dominance and truth be told i think its impossible when the other side is armed by the USA. What's important is being strong enough that starting shit with us will bring such immeasurable costs that they won't think to start shit with us.

All Erdoğan needed to do is keep his mouth shut but he has literally done everything to make Türkiye a "target". Literally played every trick in thr book to make Türkiye the boogeyman, all publicity stunts, all to boost his popularity.

If Mansur Yavaş, Ümit Özdağ, hell even Ekrem İmamoğlu was in charge, Israel wouldn't have the guts to say or do anything. Israel secretly loves Erdoğan.

 

[mehmed beg]

This would be great, but there's heaps of foreign agents still active in Syria. They're always either "feminist" kurdish democratic separatists or radical Islamists.

Türkiye needs to spread Kemalism, it's truly the antidote to all undesirable ideologies and foreign backed radicals in the region. You could slowly swallow up Syria and in a few decades have an educated and loyal population.

To achieve this, Türkiye first needs total air dominance so it can have a solid hold over Syrian airspace. Then it should go all in on Turkifying it. Remember that using Ottomanism can only work to an extent they'll find a way to stab you in the back in the future, but also you'll get radicals that would hold back any progress. I'm 100% sure that if Turkish language is taught in Syrian schools and their kids look up to Atatürk for defeating imperialism, that in 20 years they'll be an important asset. Remember that Syrians and Iraqis are very mixed, they're not true Arabs, they were Arabified, and ultimately this has held them back.

I don't want argue here, but this is one of the most stupid posts in the history of Internet.
This forum is for the grown-ups , this level of " understanding" could insult even the most stupid donkey.
I don't know what you are, but respect the most basic intelligence of people.
What are you even talking about?
Syrians becoming Turks???!!!!
Astonishing

 

[2033]

I don't want argue here, but this is one of the most stupid posts in the history of Internet.
This forum is for the grown-ups , this level of " understanding" could insult even the most stupid donkey.
I don't know what you are, but respect the most basic intelligence of people.
What are you even talking about?
Syrians becoming Turks???!!!!
Astonishing

In the past century, half of Africa learned French. The European imperialists did this very effectively, but despite ruling for 400 years, we couldn’t manage to teach even a single person Turkish.

 

[Tonyukuk]

I don't want argue here, but this is one of the most stupid posts in the history of Internet.
This forum is for the grown-ups , this level of " understanding" could insult even the most stupid donkey.
I don't know what you are, but respect the most basic intelligence of people.
What are you even talking about?
Syrians becoming Turks???!!!!
Astonishing

There's plenty of Turkmens in both Syria and Iraq, look at the bigger picture

Islamism will just continue to fail time and again. You can only gain a proper hold over these territories through nationalism.

 

[GoatsMilk]

ep his mouth shut but he has literally done everything to make Türkiye a "target". Literally played every trick in thr book to make Türkiye the boogeyman, all publicity stunts,

yeah he's been a disaster and my own personal belief is that one day it will be revealed that he always a zionist asset. Basically an internal saboteur of Turkiye. But by constantly barking he's made it very easy to paint Turkiye as the bad guy.

For a long time now its always looked like theatre between erdogan and natanyahoo. Nearly everything erdogan has done has helped zionism in the region. He was also always there to make sure the Turkish military was stopped at all the wrong times.

 

[Corvus]

There's plenty of Turkmens in both Syria and Iraq, look at the bigger picture

Islamism will just continue to fail time and again. You can only gain a proper hold over these territories through nationalism.

Nationalism IS the reason why we lost these territories to begin with.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Russia has over 190 ethnic minorities and they are a nationalistic people/country, why do they barely have a problem with them? While we can't even tame 1 of ours. And why does always a ethnic russian rule Russia while Türkiye is ruled by everyone but Turks?

 

[mehmed beg]

There is no point in discussing something what can't be done. It can only bring more grief. Ottomans didn't impose Turkish language for simple reasons. , at the time todays form of nationalism was unknown. Ottomans ruled mostly by religious discrete, which gave them the legitimacy.
In any case , that happened a long ago, no point asking yourself those questions now??!!!
Not even much point of talking Islamists that and this, it is the time to make some sort of consensus, if you can.
Besides, I know for at least 30 years that Wahabism is extreme form of tribal nationalism.
It is easier to motivate someone who is not a Turk to fight for Turkiye if you give him Islamist card
I , myself am Nationalist but I am not secularist. For simple reasons, I can't relate to todays fraud. Praying on the streets etc.
It is not the time now to be desperate or angry or " what if" , the time is for something else.
One more danger, where Islamism , correctly managed, can be useful is to counter what happened to Korea and Japan.
After years of teaching their kids " wisdom" of Talmud and waving Israeli flags , now Japan is going to get 100s of thousands of immigrants from India and Africa but not from Cambodia.
That's what happens, when the Western line of thought is allowed in the country.
By this I am criticising Indians or Africans , it just shows what happens.
War is coming, whether you like it or not, so let's try to find consensus and get together as much as possible.

 

[TR_123456]

Russia has over 190 ethnic minorities and they are a nationalistic people/country, why do they barely have a problem with them? While we can't even tame 1 of ours. And why does always a ethnic russian rule Russia while Türkiye is ruled by everyone but Turks?

That is because the Russian identity was indoctrinated into the minds of those ethinicties,we dumb Turks are humaniterian in that regard.
Take a look at ex-soviet states with more then 80/90 years of Russian rule,they still think read talk walk Russian.
They have no national identity(Uzbekistan,Khazakistan,Krigizia,Türkmenistan,Tadjikistan)
Azerbaijan an Armenia are exceptions but still have significant Russian influence.

 

[contricusc]

That is because the Russian identity was indoctrinated into the minds of those ethinicties,we dumb Turks are humaniterian in that regard.
Take a look at ex-soviet states with more then 80/90 years of Russian rule,they still think read talk walk Russian.
They have no national identity(Uzbekistan,Khazakistan,Krigizia,Türkmenistan,Tadjikistan)
Azerbaijan an Armenia are exceptions but still have significant Russian influence.

In Uzbekistan they replaced Lenin’s statue with that of Amir Temur. Major roads and plazas are named after Amir Temur, while nothing of significance is named after anything Soviet. I think they ditched Russia very quickly after becoming independent, and they cultivate their own history and identity.

And look how much hatred there is towards Russia in former Soviet countries where they tried to russify everyone. The Baltics and Ukraine hate them with a passion, and I am sure that if the opportunity arises, many more regions in Russia dominated by ethnic minorities would be happy to becomoe independent and get rid of the evil Russian domination.

 

[contricusc]

Russia has over 190 ethnic minorities and they are a nationalistic people/country, why do they barely have a problem with them? While we can't even tame 1 of ours. And why does always a ethnic russian rule Russia while Türkiye is ruled by everyone but Turks?

Be careful who you want to emulate. Russia is currently at war, and its future is bleak. In a few decades, Russia will disintegrate just like the former Jugoslavia. Turkey is much better than Russia. You should not follow an inferior model.

 

[TR_123456]

In Uzbekistan they replaced Lenin’s statue with that of Amir Temur. Major roads and plazas are named after Amir Temur, while nothing of significance is named after anything Soviet. I think they ditched Russia very quickly after becoming independent, and they cultivate their own history and identity.

The people still use Russian language,watch Russian TV,see Moscow as the centre of the world.
The state,Armed Forces,politicians, still have many aligned to Russia.
Russian influence is significant in society.

And look how much hatred there is towards Russia in former Soviet countries where they tried to russify everyone. The Baltics and Ukraine hate them with a passion, and I am sure that if the opportunity arises, many more regions in Russia dominated by ethnic minorities would be happy to becomoe independent and get rid of the evil Russian domination.

Those countries are European,easier to change,almost the same culture with always nationalism and against communism.
The Turkic countries however were easier to force,there was no nationalism,almost no cities mostly rural uneducated people.