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Russia and Assad will always support the YPG against Turkey. No, Turkeys ambition has to be to take complete control of northern syria and iraq. Turkish military power is only growing, if it takes another 20 years then it can take another 20 years. Trading one snake for a less poisonous one is not the solution to Turkeys regional problems.

The game of giving has ended for Turkey, its all about taking now.

Lets not underestimate the Turks, this is nation that when shit gets real will bring it like no other nation in the region. We already seen a small taste of this last year in idlib.

The Turks have always been underestimated and underrated.

These people think we are Arabs, Europeans and Persians. They really do underestimate our resolve.
 
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The Turks have always been underestimated and underrated.

These people think we Arabs, Europeans and Persians. They really do underestimate our resolve.

In general the Turkish mindset it passive, it only gets moving when the Turk is under attack. The more the Turk comes under attack the more the Turk wants to fight. This passive character is how something like Idlib occurs, the Turks are doing everything to avoid a serious war. Then the Russians make the dumb decision to kill the Turkish troops and the following night the Turks release hell on idlib. Since then Russian prestige has taken a pounding from the Turkish military in syria, libya and azerbaijan.
 

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In general the Turkish mindset it passive, it only gets moving when the Turk is under attack. The more the Turk comes under attack the more the Turk wants to fight. This passive character is how something like Idlib occurs, the Turks are doing everything to avoid a serious war. Then the Russians make the dumb decision to kill the Turkish troops and the following night the Turks release hell on idlib. Since then Russian prestige has taken a pounding from the Turkish military in syria, libya and azerbaijan.

Hadith about Turks are so true. Leave the Turks alone as long as they leave you alone.

We are like hornets. Will leave you alone but attack our nest and it will be something you will regret.

What do we have people still provoking the Turks then bitch and whine when they suffer the consequences.
 
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Hadith about Turks are so true. Leave the Turks alone as long as they leave you alone.

We are like hornets. Will leave you alone but attack our nest and it will be something you will regret.

What do we have people still provoking the Turks then bitch and whine when they suffer the consequences.

We have always been a reactionary people. We are happy to live peacefully and in solitude. Truth be told we only grow and advance when under attack. If no one attacks us we would be happy to ride horses in the fields and care little for geopolitics. Its this character which both invites trouble but at the same time has lead to imperial greatness time and time again.

This is why many people make the mistake in seeing growing threats as a problem, its only when these threats exist that the Turks get to work. No threats, no movement.

Another prime example of this reactionary mindset concerns the embargo after the cyprus war. Before that embargo Turks were happy to buy everything from America. Once the sanctions/embargos came Turkish mindset moved to we have to become independent. Nearly every single military advancement today has its roots in that reaction to the embargo.
 

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In general the Turkish mindset it passive, it only gets moving when the Turk is under attack. The more the Turk comes under attack the more the Turk wants to fight. This passive character is how something like Idlib occurs, the Turks are doing everything to avoid a serious war. Then the Russians make the dumb decision to kill the Turkish troops and the following night the Turks release hell on idlib. Since then Russian prestige has taken a pounding from the Turkish military in syria, libya and azerbaijan.
Russians bombed Turkish troops and we released hell on saa.
 

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Russians bombed Turkish troops and we released hell on saa.

All out war with Russia isnt reasonable at this stage, but stopping Russian/Assadist push into Idlib was critical. Thats the reality of the geopolitical situation. Step by step this game will be won, not in one full swoop.
 
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All out war with Russia isnt reasonable at this stage, but stopping Russian/Assadist push into Idlib was critical. Thats the reality of the geopolitical situation. Step by step this game will be won, not in one full swoop.

Russia is a junior partner of China, they have enough to worry about
 
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No one knows how many mighty wagners were vaporized in Syria or Libya, Not every detail is released to public nor there is any need.
Just enough footage was released to calm down the anger among the population.

Wagner mercs are part of the Russian army but unofficially they are not just some mercs they are Russia's shadow army. Army that does the dirty work when they get killed the Russians can easily deny it.

Just a few days ago a few of them got killed in the Central African Republic. Nothing was acknowleged by the Russians.

You know a few Russian special forces got killed in a part of Idlib as the Opposition forces laid out mines thats when Russia went crazy with the airstrikes.

Turkey is now in Idlib eventhough 33 Turkish soldiers got martyred by the Russiams both the Turkish army and the Russian army avoided a confrontagion and instead uses proxies to fight each other.

Russians really thought the 33 deaths would make the Turks back out hpw wrong they were if the Russians do it again there is going to be a full blown confrontation.

In other words if the Russians send us wagners that makes our job easier. I hope the TSK vapourises more of them.
 

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Wagner mercs are part of the Russian army but unofficially they are not just some mercs they are Russia's shadow army. Army that does the dirty work when they get killed the Russians can easily deny it.

Just a few days ago a few of them got killed in the Central African Republic. Nothing was acknowleged by the Russians.

You know a few Russian special forces got killed in a part of Idlib as the Opposition forces laid out mines thats when Russia went crazy with the airstrikes.

Turkey is now in Idlib eventhough 33 Turkish soldiers got martyred by the Russiams both the Turkish army and the Russian army avoided a confrontagion and instead uses proxies to fight each other.

Russians really thought the 33 deaths would make the Turks back out hpw wrong they were if the Russians do it again there is going to be a full blown confrontation.

In other words if the Russians send us wagners that makes our job easier. I hope the TSK vapourises more of them.

When in Libya, Turkey felt very generous and decided to distribute free visa to hell with permanent residentship without any charges, TB2's were blessed with this tremendous glorious burden. During the process of fulfilling the task handed to TB2's many MAML/C were distributed to the fat little whiny alcoholic wagners.
There were many videos on twitter during that time but were shadowed by kuftar thugs banging about downing 1678988938th TB2.
 

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When in Libya, Turkey felt very generous and decided to distribute free visa to hell with permanent residentship without any charges, TB2's were blessed with this tremendous glorious burden. During the process of fulfilling the task handed to TB2's many MAML/C were distributed to the fat little whiny alcoholic wagners.
There were many videos on twitter during that time but were shadowed by kuftar thugs banging about downing 1678988938th TB2.

Good seeing those wagner filth getting blown to pieces.

Especially after the umcovering of mass graves in Tarhuna if only the TB2 finished the job.

Wagners and the Al Kani Militias are the worst of the worst.
 

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Good seeing those wagner filth getting blown to pieces.

Especially after the umcovering of mass graves in Tarhuna if only the TB2 finished the job.

Wagners and the Al Kani Militias are the worst of the worst.

Those not so mighty rental wagner and their false lord kuftar is still itching to kick bad Turks out despite still having the bruises from the previous fight.In Libya the best time to show them REAL LOVE would be summer specially june and july those fat thugs are not tuned to the summer desert heat.
While in Syria we need to get lessons from some one else book there is need for organisation on the ground level which is severely lacking, Russia have no desire to collide directly with any one who is capable enough to even scratch them.
Puny TB2's proved that formidable Russian air defence system are stuck in the 80/90s. Calm and precise planing is needed to deal with their su24/25 etc IF by any fortune and careful planing that is achieved they will be very diplomatic.
 

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Those not so mighty rental wagner and their false lord kuftar is still itching to kick bad Turks out despite still having the bruises from the previous fight.In Libya the best time to show them REAL LOVE would be summer specially june and july those fat thugs are not tuned to the summer desert heat.
While in Syria we need to get lessons from some one else book there is need for organisation on the ground level which is severely lacking, Russia have no desire to collide directly with any one who is capable enough to even scratch them.
Puny TB2's proved that formidable Russian air defence system are stuck in the 80/90s. Calm and precise planing is needed to deal with their su24/25 etc IF by any fortune and careful planing that is achieved they will be very diplomatic.
Tnird party mediocre medium air defemce system, ukraina maybe? Not much options for that maneouvar, were turkey would remain "clean" and achieve deterance via proxy force.
 

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Tnird party mediocre medium air defemce system, ukraina maybe? Not much options for that maneouvar, were turkey would remain "clean" and achieve deterance via proxy force.

Houthis style tactics (Modified e.g R 73 missile was modified to shoot down a Saudi F15) , Ukranian, Iranian, Russian, Soviet or Chinese air defence system can be sourced from third party or just bribe the right guy. They will sell you any thing, S400 is a good example.
Weapons and money is cool and all but determination and organisation is the key commanded by cool and calm heads. After all is set and planed some careful decisions will be needed.
 

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Wagner mercs are part of the Russian army but unofficially they are not just some mercs they are Russia's shadow army. Army that does the dirty work when they get killed the Russians can easily deny it.

Just a few days ago a few of them got killed in the Central African Republic. Nothing was acknowleged by the Russians.

You know a few Russian special forces got killed in a part of Idlib as the Opposition forces laid out mines thats when Russia went crazy with the airstrikes.

Turkey is now in Idlib eventhough 33 Turkish soldiers got martyred by the Russiams both the Turkish army and the Russian army avoided a confrontagion and instead uses proxies to fight each other.

Russians really thought the 33 deaths would make the Turks back out hpw wrong they were if the Russians do it again there is going to be a full blown confrontation.

In other words if the Russians send us wagners that makes our job easier. I hope the TSK vapourises more of them.

When the war was going on in Karabagh, the Russians bombed a Turkish backed security camp in tel rifat. It was interesting to see that they didnt have the balls this time to directly target Turkish troops fearing the reaction that could come.

Because its not really about erdogan, its about public sentiment. When those troops were killed in a typically cheap and low fashion by Russia, the entire Turkish state wanted war. Erdogan had no choice but to do something, maybe he didnt want to do anything but if he didnt his government would have been overthrown and war would have come anyway.
 

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Hadith about Turks are so true. Leave the Turks alone as long as they leave you alone.

We are like hornets. Will leave you alone but attack our nest and it will be something you will regret.

What do we have people still provoking the Turks then bitch and whine when they suffer the consequences.

In history its well known that the Turk generally seeks peace and friendship first. Its only when people attack us continuously that eventually Turkish patience breaks. Once it breaks, the Turks start the imperial game again.

Even before the battle of Manzikert the Seljuks didn't want war, on the day of the battle the Seljuks offered the Roman empire peace and they didn't want it. The Turks as a result crushed the Romans and today Anatolia is Turkish.
 

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In history its well known that the Turk generally seeks peace and friendship first. Its only when people attack us continuously that eventually Turkish patience breaks. Once it breaks, the Turks start the imperial game again.

Even before the battle of Manzikert the Seljuks didn't want war, on the day of the battle the Seljuks offered the Roman empire peace and they didn't want it. The Turks as a result crushed the Romans and today Anatolia is Turkish.

Main target was Egypt not Anatolia.

Honestly crazy how world history changed like this as the Turks had no intention of taking Anatolia.

Egypt was the main prize due to the Seljuk-Fatimid wars also how Egypt was one of the richest places in Medieval times.

Romans constantly were picking for a fight which led to Manzikert. If Roman fanboys are crying about Turkish takeover they should usually blame themselves for it as they said never pick a fight with the Turks.
 

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